South Korea backtracks, shuts down bars and restaurants again.

[Mr KLC]

Ohio’s governor just renewed his Ohio State season tickets, expects Buckeyes will play this fall. Says whether fans will be present is TBD.

[19th Hole]

One infected nefarious scumbag ruining it for a whole nation.

[Mike Huntertz]

Charles Barkley bounces a ball very well........let's listen to him?
Great idea follow the bouncing ball. Phuck someone that spent a decade on epidemiology, listen to a ball bouncer.
Great idea.

This virus isn't just gonna go away, so lets live with it.

Charles Barkley said "You can't stop living your life", learn to deal with the virus instead of shutting everything down again and again.

[Mr KLC]

It has now been 15 days since Georgia reopened their state. And instead of a surge of hospitalizations & deaths as the media predicted, today Georgia hit a new low on hospitalizations statewide.

[Mike Huntertz]

Give 'er time, the good 'ol boyz will be showin' up soon.

It has now been 15 days since Georgia reopened their state. And instead of a surge of hospitalizations & deaths as the media predicted, today Georgia hit a new low on hospitalizations statewide.

[biggie12]

booya is definitely top 10 most ignorant posters on this site. 8 out of every 10 posts he make are totally ignorant

[chidondollars]

China will be laughing on us

[SBR_Guest_Pro]

booya is definitely top 10 most ignorant posters on this site. 8 out of every 10 posts he make are totally ignorant

And you're top 2?

[Optional]

we flattened the curve

I've seen you say this a few times and keep wondering why you think that?


USA




Italy




Sth Korea




Australia

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html

[Gaze73]

Sweden has no lockdown and only 25k cases. New york with lockdown has 333k cases. Lockdown is useless and it's just a flu.

[juicername]

I've seen you say this a few times and keep wondering why you think that?


USA




Italy




Sth Korea




Australia




https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/a...ard/index.html

Those graphs are total cases which indeed doesn't look great for the US.

I do however believe flattening the curve refers to keeping new cases consistent. For example, around 20k new cases every day for a week would mean a decent increase on the total but the logarithmic curve is flattened as in there is not an exponential increase day to day (hope I got all these fancy words right, lol).

[5mike5]

The tin foils still think it's the flu.

[juicername]

Those graphs are total cases which indeed doesn't look great for the US.

I do however believe flattening the curve refers to keeping new cases consistent. For example, around 20k new cases every day for a week would mean a decent increase on the total but the logarithmic curve is flattened as in there is not an exponential increase day to day (hope I got all these fancy words right, lol).

Below is a visualization of what I meant

[nyplayer33]

Not a flu, way worse

[PittsburghPlayer]

there are still plenty of people that need to be gone, hope that shit keeps climbing until Christmas


don`t be offended please, I`m usually the asshole going against-the grain

[Gaze73]

The tin foils still think it's the flu.

Not a flu, way worse

Oh really, you clowns?

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/17/health/santa-clara-coronavirus-infections-study/index.html

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/17/antibody-study-suggests-coronavirus-is-far-more-widespread-than-previously-thought

Money quotes:
1. "virus may be 50 to 85 times more common than official figures indicate"
2. "the US’s coronavirus death rate was 4.1% and Stanford researchers said their findings show a death rate of just 0.12% to 0.2%."
3. "If 50 times more people have had the infection, the death rate could drop by that same factor, putting it "somewhere between 'little worse than the flu' to 'twice as bad as the flu' in terms of case fatality rate,"

It's just the flu, bro. We shut down the world to make 80 year old people live a year longer.

[Unrivaled]

Oh really, you clowns?

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/17/health/santa-clara-coronavirus-infections-study/index.html

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/17/antibody-study-suggests-coronavirus-is-far-more-widespread-than-previously-thought

Money quotes:
1. "virus may be 50 to 85 times more common than official figures indicate"
2. "the US’s coronavirus death rate was 4.1% and Stanford researchers said their findings show a death rate of just 0.12% to 0.2%."
3. "If 50 times more people have had the infection, the death rate could drop by that same factor, putting it "somewhere between 'little worse than the flu' to 'twice as bad as the flu' in terms of case fatality rate,"

It's just the flu, bro. We shut down the world to make 80 year old people live a year longer.

The average age of death in my province is 85, it is unreal that everything is shut down. People freaking out about 2 to 3 people a day dying here when we have 14 million people...

That being said I think it's way worse than flu but shutting the world down seems like a bit of an overreaction.

[Gaze73]

The average age of death in my province is 85, it is unreal that everything is shut down. People freaking out about 2 to 3 people a day dying here when we have 14 million people...

That being said I think it's way worse than flu but shutting the world down seems like a bit of an overreaction.

Sweden has bars and restaurants open, public gatherings under 50 people are allowed, and yet there are no bodies piling up. People are acting like it's the T-virus.

[pablo222]

This virus isn't just gonna go away, so lets live with it.

Charles Barkley said "You can't stop living your life", learn to deal with the virus instead of shutting everything down again and again.

I would have to hear from Karl Malone and Emmitt Smith on this as well.

[jjgold]

If the death rate is real low then open everything up

[Igor_1965]

Infections continue to mass multiply in the states, yet we are about to open the floodgates.

This won't end well.

P.S. China still needs their ass kicked for this.

They have become more of a threat to the world than terrorists. Which is actually exactly what they should be viewed as now.

I think Americans need their ass kicked for killing the innocent Indians in the 1600s.

It all depends who you ask.

[lonegambler23]

we flattened the curve

from that point forward we should want to have the maximum amount of infections daily that is just BELOW our max hospital/ICU/Ventilator limit for every region.


We can't count on a vaccine, so we need to learn to make adjustments and live our life freely but safely and get to herd immunity as fast as possible using healthy people while protecting the vulnerable.

its a bit of gamble that we actually will have acquired immunity after 1 infection and recovery. but the odds are in our favor and better than our odds in a decade long depression

too many imbeciles in usa, curve will be fukked after may 20th

[lonegambler23]

Ohio’s governor just renewed his Ohio State season tickets, expects Buckeyes will play this fall. Says whether fans will be present is TBD.

he has money to blow

[krk1030]

Just let everyone get it and see who comes out the other side.

[Mike Huntertz]

It's a matter of perspective.

Tax the rich.....unless I'm rich.
Build affordable housing for the poor....but not in my neighborhood.

Let the old die.......because I'm young.
Let it run it's course....because I'm not in a highly dangerous demographic.
Killing the Indians was okay......'cause I'm not one.

Depends who's set of eyes you're looking at this from.

[Booya711]

booya is definitely top 10 most ignorant posters on this site. 8 out of every 10 posts he make are totally ignorant

Fukk you...you offer nothing here but fake bet sizes

[blackbart]

the mis information contained in this thread is mind boggling
kind of explains why the usa is in such a terrible state

[mezmurized2]

It has now been 15 days since Georgia reopened their state. And instead of a surge of hospitalizations & deaths as the media predicted, today Georgia hit a new low on hospitalizations statewide.

Your point may be factual, but it is unintentionally misleading.

First, widespread MASSIVE testing of all Georgians is hardly the case,
so we can't know if the rate of infections has or has not picked up significantly.
Second, it's not like once they said the entire state is open for normal business
that
a) EVERY business opened,
b) many of those that did open, had rules for reduced capacity (thus they are social distancing) and many also have rules for wearing masks (thus continuing to slow the spread)
c) **ALL** citizens did not suddenly flood the streets, stores, bars, and businesses like before covid.
d) it can take up to 2 weeks even to show symptoms, and they may not all get infected on day one.

The point being *IF* say there really is now only 20% of the pre-covid activity going on - and most of that activity is still being "mitigated" - then it's going to be awhile longer to see the true effects of FULL ACTIVITY with the expected slacker mitigation occuring. To draw a proper comparison this has to include a near *FULL* return to normal for passenger air service, public transportation, and cross border visitation. When all that activity is back up close to normal THEN we will see the effects, one way or the other.

[ChessPlayer1]

Oh really, you clowns?

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/17/health/santa-clara-coronavirus-infections-study/index.html

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/17/antibody-study-suggests-coronavirus-is-far-more-widespread-than-previously-thought

Money quotes:
1. "virus may be 50 to 85 times more common than official figures indicate"
2. "the US’s coronavirus death rate was 4.1% and Stanford researchers said their findings show a death rate of just 0.12% to 0.2%."
3. "If 50 times more people have had the infection, the death rate could drop by that same factor, putting it "somewhere between 'little worse than the flu' to 'twice as bad as the flu' in terms of case fatality rate,"

It's just the flu, bro. We shut down the world to make 80 year old people live a year longer.

Sharp.

[mezmurized2]

Lockdown is useless and it's just a flu.

Hmmm...the facts don't support your claim.

According to the CDC
the US mean avg for deaths by common influenza is 38,000 per YEAR.

Covid-19 has KILLED just over 73,000 just in the last 39 days!!!
...and that was WITH tough mitigation measures slowing the spread!

The seasonal flu averages about 190 deaths per day during flu season, no mitigation.

Covid-19 is averaging 1,900 deaths per day - with lockdown!!!

[mezmurized2]

Below is a visualization of what I meant

I like your "visual aid" !
For the life of me I can't figure out how to paste similar stuff.
I've tried standard BBcode but it seems to escape me...

[mezmurized2]

Sweden has no lockdown and only 25k cases. New york with lockdown has 333k cases. Lockdown is useless and it's just a flu.

Sweden 3,225 DEATHS (no lockdown)
Norway 219 deaths (lockdown)
Finland 267 deaths (lockdown)

[mezmurized2]

[QUOTE=Gaze73;29435926]Oh really, you clowns?

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/17/health/santa-clara-coronavirus-infections-study/index.html

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/17/antibody-study-suggests-coronavirus-is-far-more-widespread-than-previously-thought

"virus may be 50 to 85 times more common than official figures indicate"

Ya, that Stanford study - which was not properly "peer reviewed" before release
has since been reviewed and challenged as flawed

https://tinyurl.com/ybzcnkyb
https://tinyurl.com/y8jgpofl

The rate of infections *is* undoubtedly much higher than states are submitting
but it really isn't the rate of infections that matters -- it's the number of DEATHS.
And as we see below the rate of DEATHS is far and away higher than the flu.
Not even remotely close!

It's just the flu, bro.

Hmmm...the facts don't support your claim.
According to the CDC
the US mean avg for deaths by common influenza is 38,000 per YEAR.
Covid-19 has KILLED just over 73,000 just in the last 39 days!!!
...and that was WITH tough mitigation measures slowing the spread!
The seasonal flu averages about 190 deaths per day during flu season, no mitigation.
Covid-19 is averaging 1,900 deaths per day - with lockdown!!!

We shut down the world to make 80 year old people live a year longer

ALL lives matter!

[juicername]

Sweden 3,225 DEATHS (no lockdown)
Norway 219 deaths (lockdown)
Finland 267 deaths (lockdown)

As far as I know Sweden also acknowledge that they have much wider spread and higher death rate than their neighbors at the moment, but that's because they intentionally are months ahead of the other countries due to their strategy. Come 2021, they expect Norway and Finland to have equal or maybe even more deaths / million residents.

Sweden's main goal is to protect the risk groups but otherwise let the virus spread at as high of a pace as possible as long as it doesn't overwhelm the hospitals etc.

Is it the right strategy and would it even work the same way in other countries with different cultures? Who knows...

[mezmurized2]

The average age of death in my province is 85, it is unreal that everything is shut down. People freaking out about 2 to 3 people a day dying here when we have 14 million people...

That being said I think it's way worse than flu but shutting the world down seems like a bit of an overreaction.

You may have a point there.
Perhaps it would have been better to only lockdown the areas with significant development, while the rest of states/cities proceed normally....*until* THEY get a significant increase in infections/deaths and THEN they lockdown too.