Cooks to Texans

johnnyvegas13 · 04-09-20, 07:53 PM

So basically like they traded Hopkins for cooks

And David Johnson I guess

Louisvillekid1 · 04-09-20, 07:55 PM

He living off that penn state job

but cooks might catch a few deep balls

personally , I feel he lost a step

and doesn’t have those saints receivers around him

not to mention the playbook

cover my ass move

johnnyvegas13 · 04-09-20, 07:57 PM

Originally posted by Louisvillekid1

He living off that penn state job

but cooks might catch a few deep balls

personally , I feel he lost a step

I would say Hopkins was better

It came out after that trade he had been in the block almost two years

Only way Texans win trade is if David Johnson pans out

gauchojake · 04-09-20, 07:59 PM

Guy couldn't stay on the field in key situations due to concussions. Great team player and made some memorable catches but again the contract was terrible. Surprised Rams got a second rounder for him.

pologq · 04-09-20, 08:01 PM

Originally posted by johnnyvegas13

I would say Hopkins was better

It came out after that trade he had been in the block almost two years

Only way Texans win trade is if David Johnson pans out

agreed. if johnson is shit, obrien looks like a jackass.

Louisvillekid1 · 04-09-20, 08:01 PM

You would say?

d hop is top 3 in the game , maybe #1

no issues , not a diva , blah blah

David Johnson is an injury prone , number grabber

who thrived under a different system

kliff wasn’t gonna use em anyway

Bill is wanna be belicheck

similarly playing in a weak division

deshaun should be upset

This forum doesn’t want legit insight tho

so play along

or you might get an infraction

johnnyvegas13 · 04-09-20, 08:03 PM

Originally posted by gauchojake

Guy couldn't stay on the field in key situations due to concussions. Great team player and made some memorable catches but again the contract was terrible. Surprised Rams got a second rounder for him.

I think that’s the same pick they got for Hopkins

Louisvillekid1 · 04-09-20, 08:03 PM

I will add,

I’m not dissing David Johnson

he could thrive it healthy

in the right system

but let’s be transparent

bill on a power trip

doesbt matter what DJ does

Louisvillekid1 · 04-09-20, 08:06 PM

The Sabel’s that owner the team

started this franchise

they own nfl films

both father and son passed

one of my first jobs was for them

great family

the next lineup , isn’t very sharp

i can write more on this if you like

johnnyvegas13 · 04-09-20, 08:08 PM

Hopkins for cooks and Johnson

Would u make that trade

Louisvillekid1 · 04-09-20, 08:13 PM

Hell no

, they went all in for tunsil

it’s the basis of this all

Grits n' Gravy · 04-09-20, 08:51 PM

Originally posted by johnnyvegas13

I think that’s the same pick they got for Hopkins

They keep that pick and said theirs, which is lower.

Originally posted by johnnyvegas13

Hopkins for cooks and Johnson

Would u make that trade

No. Houston got 2 guys on big contracts who have major health concerns.

Cooks hasn’t been same since getting deboed as a patriot in sb vs philly. Everyone says he is a good guy and teammate but now Payton, bill and McVay have traded him in 4 years. Something seems off about that.

Louisvillekid1 · 04-09-20, 08:55 PM

Agree grits

cincinnatikid513 · 04-09-20, 08:57 PM

got cooks for 1 year no way going pay him 3 more years 16 mil a year

Grits n' Gravy · 04-09-20, 09:02 PM

Originally posted by cincinnatikid513

got cooks for 1 year no way going pay him 3 more years 16 mil a year

You are correct. Just looked at his and Johnson’s deals. Cooks has zero dead money next season and Johnson is 2.1 in dead money. Both will likely be gone after season and if Watson wants out of Hou after season they can blow it all up and start again.

cincinnatikid513 · 04-09-20, 09:06 PM

Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy

You are correct. Just looked at his and Johnson’s deals. Cooks has zero dead money next season and Johnson is 2.1 in dead money. Both will likely be gone after season and if Watson wants out of Hou after season they can blow it all up and start again.

new coach as well bill has done enough damage

Grits n' Gravy · 04-09-20, 09:11 PM

Originally posted by cincinnatikid513

new coach as well bill has done enough damage

Think he has a few years left but he wasted watt’s prime and he will do the same with Watson if he isn’t canned.

stevenash · 04-09-20, 09:18 PM

First and foremost there has to be more than meets the eye with Brandin Cooks.
I learned a little bit about him as a person when he played up in New England.
He came across as both intelligent and likeable.
Why is such a talent on his third team already?
Like I said there has to be more than meets the eye.
With Cooks pretty much replacing Hopkins Houston has a nice set or receivers with Fuller, Stills, and Cobb.
Yes Cobb is getting old but he's a smart football player.

If you know anything about your pal Nasher than you know he loves running backs that catch the ball out of the backfied too.
My guy will always be Matt Forte, in my opinion he was one of the greatest ever recieving backs.

David Johnson is a Matt Forte type reciever and good recieving backs like that are rare.
Johnson had a season for the ages in 2016. One of the greatest combined single season run/pass receptions numbers you'll ever see.
(look it up)
I know he's coming off a wrist injury but he says he's fine.
Johnson is still only 28 but if he's near 100 percent and play close to his 2016 potential than Houston has an offense that could be a wrecking crew.
I hope the NFL starts on time this year, I am really going to enjoy watching Houston.

mpaschal34 · 04-09-20, 09:36 PM

Cooks may be damaged goods with Goff hanging him out to dry a ton the last two years.

These Rams WR's are just lucky they aren't playing in the 1970's or we may see one of them die. Goff is not an NFL QB.

jjgold · 04-09-20, 09:38 PM

Meaningless it’s all about the quarterback wide receivers are a diamond dozen

Mr KLC · 04-09-20, 10:33 PM

After a season in which Hopkins posted career-lows in yards per receptions and average depth of target, the Texans have rebuilt their passing attack around the speed of Will Fuller, Kenny Stills and Cooks, who has twice before been traded for a first round pick and overlapped in New England with O’Brien’s right hand man Jack Easterby. Cooks’ 14.8 yards per reception since 2015 rank fourth among receivers with at least 300 receptions during that time. As the Rams’ offensive line and quarterback Jared Goff struggled this past season, Cooks’ numbers dropped severely (42 receptions, 583 yards). But he had recorded more than 1,000 receiving yards in four consecutive seasons prior to that. In 2018, when the team reached the Super Bowl, Cooks made 22 explosive catches — one fewer than Hopkins that season, but on 35 fewer receptions.

The Texans ranked 21st in pass plays that gained at least 20 yards last season, but if pushing the ball downfield becomes more of a priority under first-time play caller Tim Kelly, Houston has a quarterback capable of executing that plan. Deshaun Watson tied for 14th in pass attempts that traveled 15-plus yards downfield last season, but he ranked ninth in completion rate (46.7%), seventh in touchdown rate (10.3%) and 10th in yards per attempt (13.5).

Mr KLC · 04-09-20, 10:36 PM

Cooks has a troubling concussion history, and that can obviously lead to a guy retiring early, but Cooks and Hopkins have actually played in the same amount of games since 2016 (62).