For 100,000 people to die from COVID 19 in the US there would have to be a total.....

[RudyRuetigger]

We also don't know the damage it will do to survivors. There is evidence that is may be doing long-term damage to the lungs of otherwise healthy people.

correct your fake news on death rate

[d2bets]

correct your fake news on death rate

What did I say about death rate?

[RudyRuetigger]

What did I say about death rate?

go read

this isnt CNN where i list the main headlines and you just agree with them

if more are tested, the death rate will go DOWN


ill bet any amount of points you want on that and will find backing

[DwightShrute]

You don't say..

More than 99% of Italy’s coronavirus fatalities were people who suffered from previous medical conditions, according to a study by the country’s national health authority.


99% of Those Who Died From Virus Had Other Illness, Italy Says

[topgame85]

You don't say..

More than 99% of Italy’s coronavirus fatalities were people who suffered from previous medical conditions, according to a study by the country’s national health authority.


99% of Those Who Died From Virus Had Other Illness, Italy Says

Most people understand this, I hope. This does not mean they were very ill or close to death however. High blood pressure, diabetes, immuno diseases all carry normal life expectancy and are treatable under normal circumstances. In other words, these ppl would not have died anytime soon unless they caught it.

[JohnGalt2341]

would have been worst than that if hillary killer clinton was potus.

This is purely speculation. The one thing Trump got right was restricting flights from China. He's gotten A LOT of things wrong. Below are just a few comments from a YouTube video from just a few days ago from people that still think this virus is a hoax.

Iam Gabriel: "The most revealing aspect of this global hoax is when you see ambulances sitting idle, ambulance bays empty, empty ER lobbies and certified staff being sent home."

Anna : "If everyone wakes up they are done for! This is a hoax plain and simple!no one is dying, hosptials have drill signs outside, hospitals are emptyno one knows anyone IRL that has it! So suspicious! Keep thinking folks!

Richard Raymond: "Covered a lot of territories, revealing the apparent hoax, thanks!"

Samuel Iam: "I'm proud to say that I am one who not only didn't fall for this hoax to collapse the global debt bubble,"

2uneak: "So very disturbing. I'm happy to see my theories supported that this is a Bill Gates hoax."


Now here's the scary part... there are likely MILLIONS of people in this country alone that share this same sentiment. These types of people are the most dangerous and ignorant people on the planet right now. Can anyone tell me who may have planted this seed in their heads?

[RudyRuetigger]

This is purely speculation. The one thing Trump got right was restricting flights from China. He's gotten A LOT of things wrong. Below are just a few comments from a YouTube video from just a few days ago from people that still think this virus is a hoax.

Iam Gabriel: "The most revealing aspect of this global hoax is when you see ambulances sitting idle, ambulance bays empty, empty ER lobbies and certified staff being sent home."

Anna : "If everyone wakes up they are done for! This is a hoax plain and simple!no one is dying, hosptials have drill signs outside, hospitals are emptyno one knows anyone IRL that has it! So suspicious! Keep thinking folks!

Richard Raymond: "Covered a lot of territories, revealing the apparent hoax, thanks!"

Samuel Iam: "I'm proud to say that I am one who not only didn't fall for this hoax to collapse the global debt bubble,"

2uneak: "So very disturbing. I'm happy to see my theories supported that this is a Bill Gates hoax."


Now here's the scary part... there are likely MILLIONS of people in this country alone that share this same sentiment. These types of people are the most dangerous and ignorant people on the planet right now. Can anyone tell me who may have planted this seed in their heads?

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not that theres anything wrong with that but i dont think fukking a vagina would fit

[Auto Donk]

of at least 3,870,418 confirmed cases with 100% of the serious/critical cases dying.......

Using the % rates of all the cases up until now.........

The way I see it as of now there is a slim to no chance at all to even getting near
the 100,000 predicted death toll let alone 200,000.......

Which is FANTASTIC if these %ages hold up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't really see why they wouldn't...........

that's right......... uh oh, msm/cnn/msnbc/pelosi/biden/libs/dems...........


you have done this, yet again:

[Auto Donk]

This is purely speculation. The one thing Trump got right was restricting flights from China. He's gotten A LOT of things wrong. Below are just a few comments from a YouTube video from just a few days ago from people that still think this virus is a hoax.

Iam Gabriel: "The most revealing aspect of this global hoax is when you see ambulances sitting idle, ambulance bays empty, empty ER lobbies and certified staff being sent home."

Anna : "If everyone wakes up they are done for! This is a hoax plain and simple!no one is dying, hosptials have drill signs outside, hospitals are emptyno one knows anyone IRL that has it! So suspicious! Keep thinking folks!

Richard Raymond: "Covered a lot of territories, revealing the apparent hoax, thanks!"

Samuel Iam: "I'm proud to say that I am one who not only didn't fall for this hoax to collapse the global debt bubble,"

2uneak: "So very disturbing. I'm happy to see my theories supported that this is a Bill Gates hoax."


Now here's the scary part... there are likely MILLIONS of people in this country alone that share this same sentiment. These types of people are the most dangerous and ignorant people on the planet right now. Can anyone tell me who may have planted this seed in their heads?

can you not even admit to feeling even a tad bit snookered, maybe even foolish, or even deceived, that it's now apparent this virus will kill about the same number of people as the common flu did in 2017 (about 80-85K)?

and interestingly, we didn't crash the world and US economies over that flu bug......

but we sure as hell tried with this one.....

[d2bets]

go read

this isnt CNN where i list the main headlines and you just agree with them

if more are tested, the death rate will go DOWN


ill bet any amount of points you want on that and will find backing

When did I say otherwise? I agree with that. It's still going to be the #1 cause of death in USA before the end of the week.

[jjgold]

New York is possible the curve has topped

[blankoblanco]

One thing you have to factor in is that the numbers are still growing rapidly in a lot of places and that could cause a critical mass to be hit where the mortality rate actually ticks upwards because the hospitals are overrun and everyone can't be treated

Also, if we run out of doctors/hospital rooms, people will die from other very treatable illnesses. Those won't be counted as COVID-19 deaths, yet it's still a result of the pandemic

[JohnGalt2341]

can you not even admit to feeling even a tad bit snookered, maybe even foolish, or even deceived, that it's now apparent this virus will kill about the same number of people as the common flu did in 2017 (about 80-85K)?

and interestingly, we didn't crash the world and US economies over that flu bug......

but we sure as hell tried with this one.....

You didn't read YOUR OWN link in your other thread. They are predicting 81K deaths by May 21st. I tell you what... you name the price... we'll wager on if there will be more or less than 100K deaths by the end of the year. If I am wrong... I will gladly leave SBR forever. You name the price. If you're not willing to put your money where your mouth is... you're just talking out of your ass.

[habitualwinning]

Heart disease is not communicable. Dumb comparison.

As for the flu, that's 50k with no real prevention. This is 100-240k with extreme measures. Without, it's millions, and it's completely broken hospitals without doctors and nurses cuz they all get infected like crazy.

If you don't get it, you don't get it. Not worth explaining any more.

My point was you libtards don't give a single fukk about saving lives. You only care when it fits your political agenda. Anytime there's a shooting ah fukk it's 24/7 coverage about how we need to save lives. Now this coronavirus shit same thing. But when 600k die from heart disease a much higher number, not a word from dems. So just face the reality you don't give a single fukk about saving lives.

Neither does your profit Cuomo or your fat ass obese Prickster in Chicago. Where were you loud mouths at when 50k died last year from seasonal flu, which is a communicable disease? Also heart disease is a largely preventable disease. Where was Prickster's fat ass mouth on that topic last year? All gd hypocrites. So stfu about saving lives cause you don't care.

[blankoblanco]

can you not even admit to feeling even a tad bit snookered, maybe even foolish, or even deceived, that it's now apparent this virus will kill about the same number of people as the common flu did in 2017 (about 80-85K)?

and interestingly, we didn't crash the world and US economies over that flu bug......

but we sure as hell tried with this one.....

It's going to be more than 80-85k, first of all. But even using that bullshit number, it's a bad argument

See, here's the funny thing about all you guys comparing this to past flu seasons. The 2017 flu didn't cause statewide stay-at-home orders, the complete tanking of the airline industry and travel, life-saving economy-damaging measures. Yet in spite of all that, we're seeing these numbers. It's almost as if exponentially more people would have died if we had treated this like the flu. The comparison alone literally proves how much worse this is

[cyclingbettor]

You people do realize that, whatever the number of deaths ends up being, that's the number after shutting down half the country, right?

[d2bets]

You people do realize that, whatever the number of deaths ends up being, that's the number after shutting down half the country, right?

Many people apparently do not realize that. Or they think the shutdown distancing doesn't do anything.

[PAULYPOKER]

0.5% testing of the pop is not widespread, no. No place has widespread testing, yet.

You know how many negative test results there were?

I don't know numbers across the US but my state PA is pretty telling of rest of the US......


COVID-19 Cases in Pennsylvania*

Negative	Positive	Deaths
76,719	14,559	240

A 15.95% positive rate tells me there are NO strict testing criteria requirements any longer. not even close.......

[PAULYPOKER]

no matter which side you are on you manage to be wrong. 100k deaths is nothing for a disease in a country our size. i would guess the 100k-240k estimate is only for the next few months until winter starts.

What side of what?

[PAULYPOKER]

You people do realize that, whatever the number of deaths ends up being, that's the number after shutting down half the country, right?

They probably do but will ignore the fact or hope it's not brought up.........Uh Oh........

[d2bets]

You know how many negative test results there were?

I don't know numbers across the US but my state PA is pretty telling of rest of the US......


COVID-19 Cases in Pennsylvania*

Negative	Positive	Deaths
76,719	14,559	240

A 15.95% positive rate tells me there are NO strict testing criteria requirements any longer. not even close.......

I think that's pretty typical, because people feel sick for any number of reasons. But that also doesn't mean there aren't a lot of "unsick" folks walking around with covid-19.

[PAULYPOKER]

A 16% test positive for corona rate, means all have to do is ask for one at this point and you'll get one....

[fried cheese]

What side of what?

freedom vs authoritarianism. you were just arguing how this is so serious that we need to take away even more rights from everyone and now you are saying there is no way it kills more than the flu.

[PAULYPOKER]

freedom vs authoritarianism. you were just arguing how this is so serious that we need to take away even more rights from everyone and now you are saying there is no way it kills more than the flu.

If everyone were like me this would be the greatest most friendly non divided
country on Earth,period..........

It's called possessing an open mind.......

Try it,it does wonders for your soul............

[PAULYPOKER]

I'm a numbers guy and numbers don't lie........

[Roger T. Bannon]

If this is comparable to the flu, it would produce 17,000 deaths roughly. But would be less because this spread in March which is not that bad for the flu.

[PAULYPOKER]

I think that's pretty typical, because people feel sick for any number of reasons. But that also doesn't mean there aren't a lot of "unsick" folks walking around with covid-19.

Ages 25-49 make up most of the + cases in PA



Positive Cases by Age Range to Date

Age Range	Percent of Cases
0-4	< 1%
5-12	< 1%
13-18	1%
19-24	7%
25-49	42%
50-64	29%
65+	20%

This tells me that 25 to 49 year olds need to be beat with a baseball bat
for thinking the'ye immune to this and therefore do not follow social distancing
ORDERS, spreading COVID 19 causing many deaths!......

Even though 19% of the hospitalizations are 25 to 49 year olds.......
(they're not all invincible!)....

Negative	Positive	Deaths
76,719	14,559	240

Hospitalization of +cases is a different story as Ages 65 + are the majority in PA.......

Hospitalizations by Age Range to Date

Total number of hospitalizations since 3/6/2020: 1319

Age Range	Percent of Cases
0-4	< 1%
5-12	< 1%
13-18	< 1%
19-24	1%
25-49	19%
50-64	29%
65+	51%

I'd bet you could scale all the above numbers across the US as the same....

[fried cheese]

Ages 25-49 make up most of the + cases in PA



Positive Cases by Age Range to Date

Age Range	Percent of Cases
0-4	< 1%
5-12	< 1%
13-18	1%
19-24	7%
25-49	42%
50-64	29%
65+	20%

This tells me that 25 to 49 year olds need to be beat with a baseball bat
for thinking the'ye immune to this and therefore do not follow social distancing
ORDERS, spreading COVID 19 causing many deaths!......

Even though 19% of the hospitalizations are 25 to 49 year olds.......
(they're not all invincible!)....

Negative	Positive	Deaths
76,719	14,559	240

Hospitalization of +cases is a different story as Ages 65 + are the majority in PA.......

Hospitalizations by Age Range to Date

Total number of hospitalizations since 3/6/2020: 1319

Age Range	Percent of Cases
0-4	< 1%
5-12	< 1%
13-18	< 1%
19-24	1%
25-49	19%
50-64	29%
65+	51%

I'd bet you could scale all the above numbers across the US as the same....

lol this data just disproves your point that testing is providing an accurate picture of the virus spread. only 1% of the ppl that get the corona virus are under 19 hah.

[vitterd]

would have been worst than that if hillary killer clinton was potus.

She wouldn’t have fired the pandemic team and would have listened to the doctors early and been way more prepared. Trump worst possible president for something like this.

[Kermit]

She wouldn’t have fired the pandemic team and would have listened to the doctors early and been way more prepared. Trump worst possible president for something like this.

You mean the expert doctors and health officials (who back in January and February) said that the Coronavirus wasn't anything for Americans to be worried about?

When Trump called for flight bans, even Joe Biden said that Trump was being xenophobic, now Joe Biden is singing a completely different tune about the bans.

[gojetsgomoxies]

we're 1/8th of the way to 100k deaths in USA.

deaths are growing anywhere from 8% to 15% per day.

rule of 72 says something doubles in "72/growth rate" periods..... so this doubles in 5 to 9 days.

8X to get to 100k = 3 doublings............ so it gets to 100k between 15 and 27 days. that seems pessimistic. i'd have to look at USA death counts more closely..... as of this morning, i didn't see alot of curvature (there was minor amount) in log death chart.

so it's not that far away........ and as one person points out, this is the total at the very end. i didn't pay enough attention to that either myself earlier

[PAULYPOKER]

lol this data just disproves your point that testing is providing an accurate picture of the virus spread. only 1% of the ppl that get the corona virus are under 19 hah.

WTF is wrong with you?,Lol........

[PAULYPOKER]

we're 1/8th of the way to 100k deaths in USA.

deaths are growing anywhere from 8% to 15% per day.

rule of 72 says something doubles in "72/growth rate" periods..... so this doubles in 5 to 9 days.

8X to get to 100k = 3 doublings............ so it gets to 100k between 15 and 27 days. that seems pessimistic. i'd have to look at USA death counts more closely..... as of this morning, i didn't see alot of curvature (there was minor amount) in log death chart.

so it's not that far away........ and as one person points out, this is the total at the very end. i didn't pay enough attention to that either myself earlier

2.36% of all confirmed US COVID 19 cases need hospitalization for both serious and critical conditions..........
Based on these numbers if 100% of all hospitalizations would die(never gone to happen)

To reach just 100,000 deaths the US COVID 19 case number has to reach at least 4,238,115..

Remember, all hospitalizations Serious and Critical condition would have to die if 4,238,115
Americans became infected WITH COVID 19........

I Don't have the hard numbers of who dies and who doesn't but I know it is nowhere near 100%..

So to reach 100,000 deaths there needs to be many more cases than 4,238,115.......

[JohnGalt2341]

23.6% of all confirmed US COVID 19 cases need hospitalization for both serious and critical conditions..........
Based on these numbers if 100% of all hospitalizations would die(never gone to happen)

To reach just 100,000 deaths the US COVID 19 case number has to reach at least 4,238,115..

Remember, all hospitalizations Serious and Critical condition would have to die if 4,238,115
Americans became infected WITH COVID 19........

I Don't have the hard numbers of who dies and who doesn't but I know it is nowhere near 100%..

So to reach 100,000 deaths there needs to be many more cases than 4,238,115.......

Not sure if I am understanding your numbers here. Your first set of numbers seem to be implying a 2.36% death rate. Is this correct?

But then in your 2nd statement... you are saying that they would ALL have to die if 4,238,115 people were infected... but... if 23.6% of 4,238,115 died that would be a million deaths not 100K.

And then you say for there to be 100K deaths you would need many more than 4,238,115. This is ONLY correct if the the death rate is LESS than 2.36%.

What is 2.36% of 4,238,115... it's 100K.

Let's make this real simple... let's say the death rate is only 1%. That would mean if 10 million people are infected(I think there is a VERY high chance of this before the end of the year) that would mean exactly 100K people would die. If the death rate is HIGHER(this could also happen) the death rate will be higher if 10 million people become infected.

I'm not trying to argue with your numbers... I'm just not sure you represented them very clearly. Tell me what I am missing here. Ask yourself this question... do you think 10 million people could become infected before the end of the year? What is 1% of 10 million? It's 100K.

[Pinocchio]

So to reach 100,000 deaths there needs to be many more cases than 4,238,115.......

Officially, there will be that many cases in the world in a few... weeks. Predicting only 100000 deaths will soon look like saying '640kB of RAM is more than anyone will ever need.'

None of the numbers published for any country show how many infections there are right now, but how many there were about a week to two weeks ago... since those that are starting to have symptoms now, already have been infected for up to two weeks. Yes, two weeks ago there were around 1.5 million cases if not more already. People getting infected today will not know it until mid April. Some never develop ANY symptoms but are still infected and can pass it on to some senior who could later die. So really, to stop deluding ourselves, we have to assume there are already at least 5 million infections worldwide RIGHT NOW.