Shady business model by FOXBET??? (pics)

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  • sweep
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 10-09-10
    • 16753

    #1
    Shady business model by FOXBET??? (pics)
    I've been loosely tracking this since the start of ncaab and it seems to be a standard practice from this outfit....


    Sorry for the long winded post but try to follow along, seems like outright targeting from FOXBET/BETSTARS here.



    Once you log in and click on "ncaab" the odds for all games will pop up....Some odds are true/current odds and others are very obviously alternate lines. The problem I see is that your novice/square player is not going to realize this and will be betting into alt. lines without meaning to.

    For example, the other night Iowa played at Iowa State and the true line was I.ST -4.......






    If you clicked on "ncaab" lines on FOXBET this is what shows up (Iowa State -9.5 +225) ..a clear alt. line:





    If you click the "more wagers" link they list a variety of other lines for the game, none of which are the true/current line of -4:











    Seems to me they are preying on novice/square/clueless gamblers and have a huge edge on any wager being placed. Is this ethical? I have another example with tonights UTEP/NC A&T game where they are dealing UTEP -23.5 on the regular NCAAB dropdown menu which is an absolute JOKE
  • Louisvillekid1
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-17-07
    • 52143

    #2
    Joke
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    • sweep
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      • 10-09-10
      • 16753

      #3





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      • KVB
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        • 05-29-14
        • 74817

        #4
        They're just posting the first wager of the list, a standard alt line of +/- 6 points.

        Some software will do this automatically, especially live software.

        Probably not intentional to try to fool novices, I've seen this many times.
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        • sweep
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 10-09-10
          • 16753

          #5
          I've never seen a book do this in all my years of gambling....


          KVB- share a screen shot if you can sometime tomorrow, no games left on the board tonight
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          • Louisvillekid1
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 10-17-07
            • 52143

            #6
            No different than using my name to have people give you money


            maybe you should clear that up , no?
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            • Louisvillekid1
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 10-17-07
              • 52143

              #7
              What’s worse? You no where to be found when shit hits the fan?

              or to come back finding out my inbox filled

              or my thread

              with you asking for shit for me???

              You better Pay everyone back
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              • Chi_archie
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                • 07-22-08
                • 63172

                #8
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                • jjgold
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 07-20-05
                  • 388179

                  #9
                  Foxbet does it all the time

                  A terrible book and they are already last in volume


                  They will be bought out fandual next year

                  Cannot compete with a monopoly
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                  • reigle9
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 10-25-07
                    • 17879

                    #10
                    their book, they can do whatever they want

                    if dipshit A doesnt see he's laying 25 to win 10 fukk him
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                    • Gmen30
                      SBR MVP
                      • 10-13-10
                      • 1405

                      #11
                      Originally posted by jjgold
                      Foxbet does it all the time

                      A terrible book and they are already last in volume


                      They will be bought out fandual next year

                      Cannot compete with a monopoly
                      Totally agree. And their lines and bonuses pale in comparison to other NJ books.
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                      • firedawg
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                        • 10-08-08
                        • 39219

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                        No different than using my name to have people give you money


                        maybe you should clear that up , no?
                        Wow
                        So the shit plunging janitor is pos scammer?

                        Go figure
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                        • jjgold
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 07-20-05
                          • 388179

                          #13
                          A lot of these US books are a disgrace
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                          • pinnacle420
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 10-01-12
                            • 6254

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                            What’s worse? You no where to be found when shit hits the fan?

                            or to come back finding out my inbox filled

                            or my thread

                            with you asking for shit for me???

                            You better Pay everyone back
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                            • juicername
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 10-14-15
                              • 6906

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                              What’s worse? You no where to be found when shit hits the fan?

                              or to come back finding out my inbox filled

                              or my thread

                              with you asking for shit for me???

                              You better Pay everyone back

                              Sweep went into hiding again.
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                              • Jayvegas420
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 03-09-11
                                • 28213

                                #16
                                it's better to be a janitor than to pretend to be a fireman
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                                • firedawg
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 10-08-08
                                  • 39219

                                  #17
                                  Sweep pulled some bullshit with the Bigday thing also

                                  He's a fukkin roach
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                                  • firedawg
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 10-08-08
                                    • 39219

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Jayvegas420
                                    it's better to be a janitor than to pretend to be a fireman
                                    Pretty dumb
                                    Get some real material brok dik
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                                    • pinnacle420
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 10-01-12
                                      • 6254

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Jayvegas420
                                      it's better to be a janitor than to pretend to be a fireman
                                      Jay he actually is a fireman bro..

                                      that’s not a make believe fairytale bro..
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                                      • firedawg
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 10-08-08
                                        • 39219

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by pinnacle420
                                        Jay he actually is a fireman bro..

                                        that’s not a make believe fairytale bro..
                                        Lol
                                        Jay is another wimp
                                        I ignore him
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                                        • USCPHILLYGUY
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 12-15-12
                                          • 21746

                                          #21
                                          Good stuff Sweep.

                                          Always informative
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                                          • jjgold
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 07-20-05
                                            • 388179

                                            #22
                                            The problem is the smaller books have to have high juice just to break even costs too great

                                            Many will close
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                                            • pablo222
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                                              • 01-03-19
                                              • 8858

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                              What’s worse? You no where to be found when shit hits the fan?

                                              or to come back finding out my inbox filled

                                              or my thread

                                              with you asking for shit for me???

                                              You better Pay everyone back
                                              Sweep has left the conversation.
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                                              • firedawg
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 10-08-08
                                                • 39219

                                                #24
                                                Where's Lkid?

                                                What's going on here pal?
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                                                • RudyRuetigger
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 08-24-10
                                                  • 65084

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                                  No different than using my name to have people give you money


                                                  maybe you should clear that up , no?
                                                  wouldve been a funny joke until sister was involved


                                                  lkid1 and sweep are both pretty crazy

                                                  dont want to watch this











































                                                  who am i kidding, ofcourse i do
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                                                  • Louisvillekid1
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 10-17-07
                                                    • 52143

                                                    #26
                                                    I’ll always have love for sweep

                                                    just no show and using my name

                                                    gotta atone
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                                                    • KVB
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 05-29-14
                                                      • 74817

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by reigle9
                                                      their book, they can do whatever they want

                                                      if dipshit A doesnt see he's laying 25 to win 10 fukk him
                                                      This is true.

                                                      Some might see a nefarious move to try to trick gamblers, a trick that could only work on handful of idiots only once.

                                                      And likely cause all kinds of calls and complaints.

                                                      Others might see that some bets are listed that way to show the range and array of options available in the pull down windows.

                                                      I used to think the first, always, but that was long ago.

                                                      Now I know, in some instances at least, that it's the second.

                                                      Screenshots? We don't need no stinking screen shots...besides, it's not worth the time for this thread.

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                                                      • thomorino
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 06-01-17
                                                        • 45842

                                                        #28
                                                        It isn't the books fault if the players are idiots.
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                                                        • sweep
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 10-09-10
                                                          • 16753

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by pablo222
                                                          Sweep has left the conversation.
                                                          I dont waste my energy on nonsense
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                                                          • CanuckG
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 12-23-10
                                                            • 21978

                                                            #30
                                                            Not sure how this is shady. Very clear what they offer.
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                                                            • sweep
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 10-09-10
                                                              • 16753

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by KVB
                                                              This is true.

                                                              Some might see a nefarious move to try to trick gamblers, a trick that could only work on handful of idiots only once.

                                                              And likely cause all kinds of calls and complaints.

                                                              Others might see that some bets are listed that way to show the range and array of options available in the pull down windows.

                                                              I used to think the first, always, but that was long ago.

                                                              Now I know, in some instances at least, that it's the second.

                                                              Screenshots? We don't need no stinking screen shots...besides, it's not worth the time for this thread.

                                                              No other book does this. Period. Hence no screen shots
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                                                              • Optional
                                                                Administrator
                                                                • 06-10-10
                                                                • 61789

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by sweep

                                                                No other book does this. Period. Hence no screen shots
                                                                It would not surprise me at all if Betstars management decide this was a good idea due to better profits for them. One of the worst majors as far as their business strategies IMHO.


                                                                But this just looks like lazy programming to me really.

                                                                How long has it been this way?
                                                                .
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                                                                • KVB
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 05-29-14
                                                                  • 74817

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Optional
                                                                  It would not surprise me at all if Betstars management decide this was a good idea due to better profits for them. One of the worst majors as far as their business strategies IMHO.


                                                                  But this just looks like lazy programming to me really.

                                                                  How long has it been this way?
                                                                  See this on LIVE platforms as well.
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                                                                  • KVB
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 05-29-14
                                                                    • 74817

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by sweep
                                                                    No other book does this. Period. Hence no screen shots
                                                                    No, just not wasting all that much time with some of the multiple shitheads in this thread.

                                                                    Especially those that would stoop so low to think I'd just make it up.

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                                                                    • jjgold
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 07-20-05
                                                                      • 388179

                                                                      #35
                                                                      KVB watch your back, you do not want to fool with NJ guys
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