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  • LT Profits
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    • 10-27-06
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    #36
    Originally posted by Booya711
    We are all just giving our opinions here....none of us are geniuses or we would be making decisions that matter....

    Lawrence>Fields
    Ettienne>Dobbins
    Higgins>Olave

    all my professional opinions
    Not really opinion when based on reliable power ratings, and all the ones I have looked at are consistent: Ohio State rated higher overall with edge in offensive rating bigger than Clemson edge in defensive rating. Just poke around and you will see.
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    • shocka1212
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      • 10-06-12
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      #37
      Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
      OSU going to beat Clemson

      Line gonna be pk or OSU -1.5
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      • Booya711
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        • 12-20-11
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        #38
        Originally posted by LT Profits
        Not really opinion when based on reliable power ratings, and all the ones I have looked at are consistent: Ohio State rated higher overall with edge in offensive rating bigger than Clemson edge in defensive rating. Just poke around and you will see.
        Rated by who??? As JJ says nobody knows anything or we would all be rich
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        • LT Profits
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          • 10-27-06
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          #39
          Originally posted by Booya711
          100% correct that you can’t look at past years for college but I really think Clemson is better this year than last
          Difference this year is that ACC is the weakest it has ever been while I actually think the Big Ten is better than recent years, when I thought it was a grossly overrated conference. So Clemson has faced nothing this year that even remotely resembles the Ohio State offense, so the first half of this game will be all-telling, I expect Ohio State to jump out quickly and we'll see where it goes from there.
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          • Cuse0323
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            • 12-09-09
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            #40
            I respect Clemson. I had them over Bama last year. For whatever reason, I’m just not seeing it this year. I think they go down here. The D isn’t what it was. Chase Young will be in Lawrence’s grill all game long. I may be completely wrong here. Dabo over Day is an edge, and that’s all that may matter in this one.
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            • chico2663
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              • 09-02-10
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              #41
              Originally posted by 2daBank
              The committee don’t know shit bout shit., they not ranking best, they ranking most deserving which how should be., books telling you who best cause Clemson the fav over everyone., books Job to know.,

              remember ala being 7 pt fav over ohio state few years back. i think osu won by double digits to the osu 3rd string qb.
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              • LT Profits
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                • 10-27-06
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                #42
                Originally posted by Booya711
                Rated by who??? As JJ says nobody knows anything or we would all be rich
                There are lots of reliable power ratings out there, you have to know where to look. Heck, even the most popular free ratings from Sagarin are in agreement with the better ones I look at, at least at the top of the ratings.
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                • Booya711
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                  • 12-20-11
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                  #43
                  Originally posted by LT Profits
                  There are lots of reliable power ratings out there, you have to know where to look. Heck, even the most popular free ratings from Sagarin are in agreement with the better ones I look at, at least at the top of the ratings.
                  Common LT....still doesn’t predict the winner....all these ratings are just by people like me and you....enough knowledge to know just about nothing
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                  • chico2663
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                    • 09-02-10
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                    #44
                    funny guys that didn't watch osu all year thinks this was osu offense. Fields didn't even think of running.
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                    • LT Profits
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                      • 10-27-06
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                      #45
                      Originally posted by Booya711
                      Rated by who???
                      I am talking about pure power ratings, not dipshit touts.
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                      • Booya711
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                        • 12-20-11
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                        #46
                        Originally posted by LT Profits
                        I am talking about pure power ratings, not dipshit touts.
                        Oh yeah....I know you weren’t talking touts
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                        • Booya711
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                          • 12-20-11
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                          #47
                          Originally posted by chico2663
                          funny guys that didn't watch osu all year thinks this was osu offense. Fields didn't even think of running.
                          Take your homer glasses off Chico....I’m a Florida State guy and despise Clemson but know what I see
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                          • LT Profits
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                            • 10-27-06
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                            #48
                            Originally posted by Booya711
                            Common LT....still doesn’t predict the winner....all these ratings are just by people like me and you....enough knowledge to know just about nothing
                            No, there is no opinion involved. The best ones are all stat-driven.
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                            • Booya711
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                              • 12-20-11
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                              #49
                              Originally posted by LT Profits
                              No, there is no opinion involved. The best ones are all stat-driven.
                              Friendly betpoint bet on this game?
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                              • LT Profits
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                                • 10-27-06
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                                #50
                                Originally posted by Booya711
                                Friendly betpoint bet on this game?
                                No need, hard to get excited about point bet when I will have real $$$ bet.
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                                • Booya711
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                                  • 12-20-11
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                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by LT Profits
                                  No need, hard to get excited about point bet when I will have real $$$ bet.
                                  Well of course but we can’t bet real money with each other on SBR....just fun
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                                  • Cuse0323
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                                    • 12-09-09
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                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by Booya711
                                    Well of course but we can’t bet real money with each other on SBR....just fun
                                    Oh there’s ways.



                                    What, no, no there’s not. Not me.
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                                    • jjgold
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                                      • 07-20-05
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                                      #53
                                      This is the Booya we want

                                      Clemson is down this year despite record, less NFL talent according to so called experts
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                                      • 2daBank
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                                        • 01-26-09
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                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by jjgold
                                        This is the Booya we want

                                        Clemson is down this year despite record, less NFL talent according to so called experts
                                        Lmfao. The experts who call them the favs overs everyone in country? Ok
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                                        • 2daBank
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                                          • 01-26-09
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                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by LT Profits
                                          Not really opinion when based on reliable power ratings, and all the ones I have looked at are consistent: Ohio State rated higher overall with edge in offensive rating bigger than Clemson edge in defensive rating. Just poke around and you will see.
                                          LmfAo. It is in fact opinion. Spin it how you like. And I’ll spin it books made the better team favs., their numbers disagree w yours.
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                                          • Booya711
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                                            • 12-20-11
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                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by 2daBank
                                            LmfAo. It is in fact opinion. Spin it how you like. And I’ll spin it books made the better team favs., their numbers disagree w yours.
                                            I like and respect LT but what he is talking is laughable

                                            he won’t even betpoint bet with me
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                                            • LT Profits
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                                              • 10-27-06
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                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by 2daBank
                                              LmfAo. It is in fact opinion. Spin it how you like. And I’ll spin it books made the better team favs., their numbers disagree w yours.
                                              No opinion whatsoever. Do you even understand the power ratings I am talking about? They are all stat-based, taking subjectivity out of the equation.
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                                              • ThaTopMoron
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                                                • 04-30-10
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                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by Booya711
                                                They have been disrespected all year....Clemson/LSU final would be the best two teams anyway
                                                a bye? vs 13-0 Bucks team maybe most talented bucks team ever who wears teams down? passed all their tests and never laid an egg? Coach who knows his team and made all the right changes at half yesterday? QB with 40 TD to 1 INT.

                                                a bye?



                                                I'm just going to sit back and watch this game because it will come down to a few plays in the 4th quarter 9/10 times its played
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                                                • swordsandtequila
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                                                  • 02-23-12
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                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                  I am talking about pure power ratings, not dipshit touts.
                                                  Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                  No, there is no opinion involved. The best ones are all stat-driven.
                                                  Power ratings and stats are fine, but they're not the be-all end-all. If so, every "favorite" would win every time. It's not unreasonable to say the teams are fairly even at rb/wr. Lawrence is the best quarterback in the country, much less the playoffs. And he's been there. And won. Big. That has to be worth something. Dabo unquestionably gets the edge over Day. No knock on him just too early in his career as a head coach. Say what you want about Clemson's schedule, all I know is when they have faced the "big boys" more often than not they've won. But that's why they play the games, if the pundits picked then Alabama would have won the title in September.
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                                                  • LT Profits
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                                                    • 10-27-06
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                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by swordsandtequila
                                                    Power ratings and stats are fine, but they're not the be-all end-all. If so, every "favorite" would win every time. It's not unreasonable to say the teams are fairly even at rb/wr. Lawrence is the best quarterback in the country, much less the playoffs. And he's been there. And won. Big. That has to be worth something. Dabo unquestionably gets the edge over Day. No knock on him just too early in his career as a head coach. Say what you want about Clemson's schedule, all I know is when they have faced the "big boys" more often than not they've won. But that's why they play the games, if the pundits picked then Alabama would have won the title in September.
                                                    Right and I respect everything in this post. I was simply addressing guys that were saying it was an "opinion" that power ratings have Ohio State #1, those guys must not know how power ratings work because there is zero opinion involved..
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                                                    • Da Manster!
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                                                      • 07-13-07
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                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by Da Manster!
                                                      LSU is (-11.5) over Oklahoma...I predicted somewhere around (-14)...not that far off...don't feel good about that spread either way...the Sooners aren't chopped liver and I guarantee you they will put up a better fight than Georgia did...I think Clemson (-2.5) is a good play...these are my initial thoughts and leans.
                                                      and just like that the line has now shot up to LSU (-13)!...
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                                                      • shocka1212
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                                                        • 10-06-12
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                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by jjgold
                                                        This is the Booya we want

                                                        Clemson is down this year despite record, less NFL talent according to so called experts
                                                        every single one of their Wide receivers could be drafted in the 1st round. WTF are you talking about.
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                                                        • Easy-Rider 66
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                                                          #63
                                                          TIGERS. by 7+
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                                                          • chico2663
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                                                            • 09-02-10
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                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                            We can just do 50 if you want but we can do way more If you like??
                                                            I will take the other 50. Paying back loan or would do more.
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                                                            • chico2663
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                                                              • 09-02-10
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                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by swordsandtequila
                                                              Power ratings and stats are fine, but they're not the be-all end-all. If so, every "favorite" would win every time. It's not unreasonable to say the teams are fairly even at rb/wr. Lawrence is the best quarterback in the country, much less the playoffs. And he's been there. And won. Big. That has to be worth something. Dabo unquestionably gets the edge over Day. No knock on him just too early in his career as a head coach. Say what you want about Clemson's schedule, all I know is when they have faced the "big boys" more often than not they've won. But that's why they play the games, if the pundits picked then Alabama would have won the title in September.
                                                              Day has never lost a game as double digit favorite. He coached with Chip Kelly
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                                                              • homie1975
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                                                                • 12-24-13
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                                                                #66
                                                                Both teams chock full of HS superstars.

                                                                I'll go dabo and trevor over day and fields.
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                                                                • stevenash
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                                                                  • 01-17-11
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by Booya711
                                                                  They have been disrespected all year....Clemson/LSU final would be the best two teams anyway
                                                                  I personally think Clemson is the best of the four of them.
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                                                                  • jtoler
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                                                                    • 12-17-13
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by swordsandtequila
                                                                    Lawrence is the best quarterback in the country, much less the playoffs.
                                                                    thats funny many were down on him after the first 5 games of the season he was sitting at 7 tds and 5 ints at that point, acc is full of bad defenses and every team gives up 30+ pts a game
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                                                                    • swordsandtequila
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                                                                      • 02-23-12
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by jtoler
                                                                      thats funny many were down on him after the first 5 games of the season he was sitting at 7 tds and 5 ints at that point, acc is full of bad defenses and every team gives up 30+ pts a game
                                                                      Was actually 8/5 after 5, then 26/3 the next eight games. Most of those Chase Brice got playing time in the 2nd half. Not knocking the other qbs, but we've seen Lawrence on the big stage. Until proven otherwise I'm riding the Tigers. The ones in Carolina
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                                                                      • PaperTrail07
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                                                                        • 08-29-08
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                                                                        #70
                                                                        Ohio State -3 +150...............already booked the natty
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