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  • shocka1212
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 10-06-12
    • 16788

    #1
    MNF
    Vikings +3 -125 ( to win 3 units)

    been fading Seattle at home ats against winning teams so we're sticking the course here.
  • cincinnatikid513
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 11-23-17
    • 45360

    #2
    its kirk cousins tho
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    • shocka1212
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 10-06-12
      • 16788

      #3
      Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
      its kirk cousins tho
      my point exactly. 0-7 on MNF if I'm not mistaken. on the road yet the line is moving.... strictly a play on the number here. Spread #'s scream Seattle but field stats scream minny.
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      • cincinnatikid513
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 11-23-17
        • 45360

        #4
        i know those stats dont mean anything but pete 28-5 prime time games is just nuts
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        • shocka1212
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 10-06-12
          • 16788

          #5
          Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
          i know those stats dont mean anything but pete 28-5 prime time games is just nuts
          I know. It is and you’re probably right. One of those “too easy” moments so I’m going with the fade here
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          • flakeandbake
            SBR MVP
            • 06-21-10
            • 3672

            #6
            Worried about this game based on the futures

            In terms of taking Minny
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            • RavenDynasty2K20
              SBR High Roller
              • 11-11-19
              • 130

              #7
              minny hasnt really played anybody. they are frauds
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              • shocka1212
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 10-06-12
                • 16788

                #8
                Originally posted by flakeandbake
                Worried about this game based on the futures

                In terms of taking Minny
                thats why I'm taking the points and not the ML
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                • RavensFan2k3
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 08-18-12
                  • 17378

                  #9
                  Originally posted by shocka1212
                  thats why I'm taking the points and not the ML
                  Good point
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                  • pilebuck13
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 05-15-15
                    • 17918

                    #10
                    Originally posted by RavenDynasty2K20
                    minny hasnt really played anybody. they are frauds
                    I did notice this. They have lost to Green Bay Chicago and the chiefs. That being said Seattle’s only impressive win was against the niners they have faced some weak ass teams as well. Minny has been terrible off a bye week. Could be a 1-3 point game. Total seems about right I would expect both teams to start slow and score minimal first half.....Vikings off a bye heads not in game Seattle not very good first half...
                    If can grab first half under 24 for +money might be worth a shot
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                    • MinnesotaFats
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 12-18-10
                      • 14758

                      #11
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                      • flakeandbake
                        SBR MVP
                        • 06-21-10
                        • 3672

                        #12
                        Originally posted by shocka1212
                        thats why I'm taking the points and not the ML
                        True, but it’s down to +2.5 (not saying you don’t already have +3.5 though)

                        My rule is if I’m betting a + spread I should also be confident in the money line (for a smaller amount)

                        I still lean Minny but idk
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                        • MinnesotaFats
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 12-18-10
                          • 14758

                          #13
                          Originally posted by pilebuck13
                          I did notice this. They have lost to Green Bay Chicago and the chiefs. That being said Seattle’s only impressive win was against the niners they have faced some weak ass teams as well. Minny has been terrible off a bye week. Could be a 1-3 point game. Total seems about right I would expect both teams to start slow and score minimal first half.....Vikings off a bye heads not in game Seattle not very good first half...
                          If can grab first half under 24 for +money might be worth a shot
                          This guy gets it. Outdoor and on grass the Vikings literally write em off. Don't even give a fukk.

                          Team is fast and build for turf. Undersized on the O-line so protections break down against teams w oversized DLineman equalized on grass. On turf surface they get out in space and create.

                          Same w our D ends, the pass rush on turf is twice as good as on grass.

                          Take the points.... it's like you can feel the cash in your pocket already!
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                          • RavensFan2k3
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 08-18-12
                            • 17378

                            #14
                            Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                            This guy gets it. Outdoor and on grass the Vikings literally write em off. Don't even give a fukk.

                            Team is fast and build for turf. Undersized on the O-line so protections break down against teams w oversized DLineman equalized on grass. On turf surface they get out in space and create.

                            Same w our D ends, the pass rush on turf is twice as good as on grass.

                            Take the points.... it's like you can feel the cash in your pocket already!
                            I definitely didn’t understand this post
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                            • pilebuck13
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 05-15-15
                              • 17918

                              #15
                              Yet Seattle 5-0 first half over at home and minny 4-2 first half over away these are meaningless but just saying. Minnesota if it were ever a night your boy was gonna make a statement it would be tonight if not he keeps that cloud over him gl
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                              • shocka1212
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 10-06-12
                                • 16788

                                #16
                                Originally posted by pilebuck13
                                Yet Seattle 5-0 first half over at home and minny 4-2 first half over away these are meaningless but just saying. Minnesota if it were ever a night your boy was gonna make a statement it would be tonight if not he keeps that cloud over him gl
                                that win against Dallas doesn't look nearly as good in hindsight
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                                • Mike Huntertz
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 08-19-09
                                  • 11207

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by RavenDynasty2K20
                                  minny hasnt really played anybody. they are frauds


                                  Acording to Sagarin,

                                  Seattle has played the 5th toughest schedule, Minnesota 29th
                                  Hawks are 5-2 versus top 16.....Vikes are 2-2

                                  Looks like Seattle for me.
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                                  • RavenDynasty2K20
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 11-11-19
                                    • 130

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by pilebuck13
                                    I did notice this. They have lost to Green Bay Chicago and the chiefs. That being said Seattle’s only impressive win was against the niners they have faced some weak ass teams as well. Minny has been terrible off a bye week. Could be a 1-3 point game. Total seems about right I would expect both teams to start slow and score minimal first half.....Vikings off a bye heads not in game Seattle not very good first half...
                                    If can grab first half under 24 for +money might be worth a shot
                                    true that Seattle played some sketchy teams but overall still better competition than Vikings have faced. Seattle .504 SOS vs Vikings .420 SOS, noticeable difference.

                                    your also right Vikings 2-3 SU off the bye week losing by 3 pt or more. the bye week doesnt really have an advantage anymore like it used to. only coaches you bet with after bye week is Belichick, John Harbaugh and Andy Reid, but even Reid had been slippin a bit prior to beatdown against Raiders
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                                    • RavenDynasty2K20
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 11-11-19
                                      • 130

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Mike Huntertz



                                      Acording to Sagarin,

                                      Seattle has played the 5th toughest schedule, Minnesota 29th
                                      Hawks are 5-2 versus top 16.....Vikes are 2-2

                                      Looks like Seattle for me.
                                      not only that but after loss to the Ravens this defense is starting to trend upwards a bit. couldnt say the same about them at the beginning of season. Minny defense is trending downward.. 73 pt given up last 3 games.. gave up 23 to bad Broncos offense.. imagine how many points Russ is gonna put on them.. at least in high 20's...
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                                      • MinnesotaFats
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 12-18-10
                                        • 14758

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by RavensFan2k3
                                        I definitely didn’t understand this post
                                        You pointed out that the Vikings losses are all road games on grass....

                                        Your other opinion of the Vikings schedule I'd second guess.... wins over Philly, Dallas, Raiders all over .500.

                                        All 3 road losses by 1 possession versus division leaders or + .500 teams.

                                        Det, Den, Atl, Redskins, NYG suck I get it, but not sure I'd say they haven't played anyone, 11 games into season and 8 were versus teams .500 or better at the time....
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                                        • lakerboy
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 04-02-09
                                          • 94379

                                          #21
                                          Going into the season the Seahawks schedule looked extremely difficult.

                                          They have played and won in Pittsburgh, Philly and Cleveland. All teams that were supposed to be in the playoffs.
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                                          • shocka1212
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 10-06-12
                                            • 16788

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by RavenDynasty2K20
                                            true that Seattle played some sketchy teams but overall still better competition than Vikings have faced. Seattle .504 SOS vs Vikings .420 SOS, noticeable difference.

                                            your also right Vikings 2-3 SU off the bye week losing by 3 pt or more. the bye week doesnt really have an advantage anymore like it used to. only coaches you bet with after bye week is Belichick, John Harbaugh and Andy Reid, but even Reid had been slippin a bit prior to beatdown against Raiders
                                            I understand but my reasoning with taking the points here is that although vikings are horrible off a bye and even worse against the spread, Seattle had gone 3-2 against winning teams and their point differential in the wins is +6. that was my decision making process. not an incredible endorsement for the play given who we're talking about but the play is the play.
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                                            • RavensFan2k3
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 08-18-12
                                              • 17378

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                                              You pointed out that the Vikings losses are all road games on grass....

                                              Your other opinion of the Vikings schedule I'd second guess.... wins over Philly, Dallas, Raiders all over .500.

                                              All 3 road losses by 1 possession versus division leaders or + .500 teams.

                                              Det, Den, Atl, Redskins, NYG suck I get it, but not sure I'd say they haven't played anyone, 11 games into season and 8 were versus teams .500 or better at the time....
                                              I pointed out? Lol I haven’t said anything lol
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                                              • RavenDynasty2K20
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 11-11-19
                                                • 130

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by RavensFan2k3
                                                I pointed out? Lol I haven’t said anything lol
                                                i think ppl will get us mixed up with our usernames lol
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                                                • USCPHILLYGUY
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 12-15-12
                                                  • 21745

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                                                  You pointed out that the Vikings losses are all road games on grass....

                                                  Your other opinion of the Vikings schedule I'd second guess.... wins over Philly, Dallas, Raiders all over .500

                                                  All 3 road losses by 1 possession versus division leaders or + .500 teams.

                                                  Det, Den, Atl, Redskins, NYG suck I get it, but not sure I'd say they haven't played anyone, 11 games into season and 8 were versus teams .500 or better at the time....
                                                  Again bad info from fatty on this. Oakland was a measly 1-1 when they were destroyed by Minny 34-14. Philly Although was 3-2 you can see how bad this team really is.
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                                                  • BeatTheJerk
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 08-19-07
                                                    • 31794

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by shocka1212
                                                    I understand but my reasoning with taking the points here is that although vikings are horrible off a bye and even worse against the spread, Seattle had gone 3-2 against winning teams and their point differential in the wins is +6. that was my decision making process. not an incredible endorsement for the play given who we're talking about but the play is the play.
                                                    Shocka we on the same side, but I got the money line pal "lets do it again".
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                                                    • asiagambler
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                                                      • 07-23-17
                                                      • 6827

                                                      #27
                                                      Seattle very very good team in December
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                                                      • RavensFan2k3
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 08-18-12
                                                        • 17378

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by RavenDynasty2K20
                                                        i think ppl will get us mixed up with our usernames lol
                                                        Lmao!! You’re right
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                                                        • shocka1212
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 10-06-12
                                                          • 16788

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by RavensFan2k3
                                                          Lmao!! You’re right
                                                          not gonna lie y'all had me confused for a second.
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                                                          • JayDr3am
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                                                            • 05-06-14
                                                            • 18260

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by RavenDynasty2K20
                                                            i think ppl will get us mixed up with our usernames lol
                                                            i did for 2 seconds lol i feel like you have to have ray lewis and ed reed as your avatar now
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                                                            • USCPHILLYGUY
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                                                              • 12-15-12
                                                              • 21745

                                                              #31
                                                              Minny 0-13-1 ATS outdoor road games vs team with winning record
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                                                              • BeatTheJerk
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 08-19-07
                                                                • 31794

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by USCPHILLYGUY
                                                                Minny 0-13-1 ATS outdoor road games vs team with winning record
                                                                I like to occasionally bet these long outstanding trends, but it simply can't be "the main" reason to pull the trigger.
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                                                                • shocka1212
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 10-06-12
                                                                  • 16788

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by USCPHILLYGUY
                                                                  Minny 0-13-1 ATS outdoor road games vs team with winning record
                                                                  and yet the line stuck at 2.5 and 3. Both games Seattle has dropped at home were as a -3 fav or better........ if that doesn't tell you everything you need to know.......
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                                                                  • RavenDynasty2K20
                                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                                    • 11-11-19
                                                                    • 130

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by JayDr3am
                                                                    i did for 2 seconds lol i feel like you have to have ray lewis and ed reed as your avatar now
                                                                    lol. i should. loved those guys, 2 goats but thats the past. i want somethin new. gonna go find me an appropriate Ravens ava, brb lol
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                                                                    • sweethook
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                                                                      • 11-21-07
                                                                      • 12667

                                                                      #35
                                                                      i like it shock
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