After one full season and 14 games ......

[Chili_Powder]

Already top 5 all-time.

[stevenash]

Already top 5 all-time.

GOAT lol
I know you’re being sarcastic but let’s wait six more years.

[Goat Milk]

I've watched Lebron since he was in high school. Best player to ever play the game hands down.

Perhaps you never watched Jordan? I'm convinced Michael Jordan wasn't human. What kind of player retires in his prime, returns, shows rust, loses to the Magic in the semis/conference finals? and then returns the next year to set the NBA record for most games won in a season, followed by a second 3-peat.

Lol.

Bro.

This guy was a literal FREAK OF NATURE. Lebron is a freak of nature athletically, but not in the mind the way Jordan was. Jordan would sell his own child to win a championship. He was a very complex person. Gambling debts. Problems with his family. He had a lot of issues surrounding him and it all stemmed from his obsession with winning. Lebron does not have that obsession. He's obsessed with the game of basketball, which is not the same.

[Goat Milk]

I would say that yeah he is up there. Although Lebron and Kawhi are clearly better than Doncic in a 7 game series. These regular season games mean nothing. Zero.

Doncic is putting up the best numbers for a 20 year old in history.

When you say he'll get better, he certainly will. But his numbers won't get much better. He will get better because his mind will be sharper. Lebron puts up the same numbers today as he did at 22 years old. But he's a far better player.

Also, Doncic might even put up less numbers at some point in the future, because he'll eventually realize he'll need to team up to win a ring.

[Hman]

Perhaps you never watched Jordan? I'm convinced Michael Jordan wasn't human. What kind of player retires in his prime, returns, shows rust, loses to the Magic in the semis/conference finals? and then returns the next year to set the NBA record for most games won in a season, followed by a second 3-peat.

Lol.

Bro.

This guy was a literal FREAK OF NATURE. Lebron is a freak of nature athletically, but not in the mind the way Jordan was. Jordan would sell his own child to win a championship. He was a very complex person. Gambling debts. Problems with his family. He had a lot of issues surrounding him and it all stemmed from his obsession with winning. Lebron does not have that obsession. He's obsessed with the game of basketball, which is not the same.

Great post

Jordan was simply unstoppable

Double & triple teamed on a nightly basis when they played D and STILL dominated.

LeBron has proven he's human and doesn't even have the killer instinct of Kobe Bryant, much less MJ

[Big Bear]

dang Nasher how bad do you want to suck this guys cawk?

[stevenash]

Perhaps you never watched Jordan? I'm convinced Michael Jordan wasn't human. What kind of player retires in his prime, returns, shows rust, loses to the Magic in the semis/conference finals? and then returns the next year to set the NBA record for most games won in a season, followed by a second 3-peat.

Lol.

Bro.

This guy was a literal FREAK OF NATURE. Lebron is a freak of nature athletically, but not in the mind the way Jordan was. Jordan would sell his own child to win a championship. He was a very complex person. Gambling debts. Problems with his family. He had a lot of issues surrounding him and it all stemmed from his obsession with winning. Lebron does not have that obsession. He's obsessed with the game of basketball, which is not the same.

I was in Jr. HS and High School when I saw Bird, Magic, Jordan, etc. in their prime.
Jordan was hands down the greatest player I ever saw and the most clutch.
What people tend to overlook was Jordan was a top five lockdown man to man defender of my generation too.
He was in Joe Dumars and Rodman’s class when it came to defense. (I was a big fan of Bird’s Celtics teams, Dennis Johnson was great too)

Jordan at his finest.

[stevenash]

dang Nasher how bad do you want to suck this guys cawk?

I’m a straight, married man.
I have no desire to suck any man’s rooster.
Now run along you don’t belong at the grown up table.

[DOM-Ganador]

Dallas and Luka took Rockettes to the woodshed last night.
I realise regular season NBA is a total joke and almost a waste of time.
Easy to fix, BUT would cost some owners $$$, so never gonna happen.

Is there any scenario that someone would want Harden over Luka at this point.
Even out age/salary, I still take Luka. He is the kind of player other players will want to play with.

[POOLSIDE]

Dallas and Luka took Rockettes to the woodshed last night.
I realise regular season NBA is a total joke and almost a waste of time.
Easy to fix, BUT would cost some owners $$$, so never gonna happen.

Is there any scenario that someone would want Harden over Luka at this point.
Even out age/salary, I still take Luka. He is the kind of player other players will want to play with.

Garden or Doncic isn’t even really worth considering. It’s Doncic by a country mile. One guy is a volume shooter more concerned with stats than wins, the other isn’t.

[stevenash]

Your Personal Efficiency Ratings (PER) through 16 games.

http://insider.espn.com/nba/hollinger/statistics

[stevenash]

Just like Larry Legend used to do.

[stevenash]

The Greek is going bat shit crazy in this Bucks/Jazz game.
Start of the fourth quarter he's got 36/8/6

https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=401160890

[stevenash]

After a subpar game at the hands of the suffocating Clipper defense Luca has 19 points, 6 rebounds, and seven assists.
At the half.

[IBetYou]

Embarrassing the league, as the Suns broadcast just put it.

[stevenash]

^
Finished with 42/9/11 slash line.
Like I said before, the NBA is becoming an Euro league.

[IBetYou]

^
Finished with 42/9/11 slash line.
Like I said before, the NBA is becoming an Euro league.

Giannis is not really European. Does he look Hellenic to you?

[POOLSIDE]

Giannis is not really European. Does he look Hellenic to you?

Slippery slope

[stevenash]

Giannis is not really European. Does he look Hellenic to you?

I'll break this down for you on simple terms.
Greece is an European country.
Giannis was born and raised in Athens Greece.
Ergo he's European it has nothing to do what he looks like.

[IBetYou]

I'll break this down for you on simple terms.
Greece is an European country.
Giannis was born and raised in Athens Greece.
Ergo he's European it has nothing to do what he looks like.

He's a European citizen but he's not obviously of European ethnicity so don't know what point you're trying to make. No wait I got it, that there's some guys that were born on a different land mass featuring prominently in the league. How perceptive of you!

[POOLSIDE]

He's a European citizen but he's not obviously of European ethnicity so don't know what point you're trying to make. No wait I got it, that there's some guys that were born on a different land mass featuring prominently in the league. How perceptive of you!

And I’m white, so clearly I’m not American. What point are you trying to make here?

[IBetYou]

And I’m white, so clearly I’m not American. What point are you trying to make here?

I think most people would infer his comment was about ethnicity. If not, then who gives a penetrate what country someone was born in? What difference does it make?!

[POOLSIDE]

who gives a penetrate what country someone was born in?

You, apparently.

[IBetYou]

Wow you're really slow. Ethnicity is not where you were born. Good grief.

[POOLSIDE]

Wow you're really slow. Ethnicity is not where you were born. Good grief.

I’m definitely not the slow one here, I assure you.

[stevenash]

So were are clear here most everyone know Giannis is a Greek citizen whose parents are Nigerian.
He played all his basketball in Europe before playing the NBA.
He plays Euro style basketball, that is exactly what I meant when I said the NBA is becoming an Euro league.

I was born in the USA, I was raised in the USA even though my direct ancestors are from Europe (Savic to be precise) I'm an American.

[IBetYou]

He plays African style. His game is based upon athleticism and 1 on 1 play. Euro style as you put it is about man movement. NBA will never be that way.

[IBetYou]

I’m definitely not the slow one here, I assure you.

You're definitely a special one.

[POOLSIDE]

You're definitely a special one.

No, you.

[POOLSIDE]

Mavs will win a seven game series against the Lakers.

[stevenash]

Mavs will win a seven game series against the Lakers.

I would love to see it as I'm rooting for the Mavs or Utah to win the west and always have disliked the Lakers.
But do the Mavs have the pivot men to neutralize AD or LeBron?
Powell or Maxi aren't the answer so 'Zingis has to play out of shoes and stay healthy.
If Dallas does face the Lakers they might want to consider moving Luca to a forward position and use a guard rotation of Barera, Hardaway, and Wright.

[Bostongambler]

Mavs one player away

[pilebuck13]

Man he’s nasty just seen the highlights wow

[cowboyinscotland]

I have been very surprised as I expected him to take 3-4 seasons to reach the level he has. Outstanding talent.

[POOLSIDE]

33 & 18 through three quarters