If Cleveland wins tonight it'll be a MAXIMUM RIGGED job..........

[PAULYPOKER]

No one in their right mind gonna bet on Cleveland......

The Progressive "Corporation" has been shoving Baker Mayfield down
America's throat for the last year now........

Everyone who is anyone has been touting Cleveland as the best team
in the AFC North as they were favored to win it.........




Cleveland is a shit team, simple as that..........


The 5Dimes consensus>

11/14 02:49 AM	+3 -115	17610	60.00%	$1,056,600	63.9%	-3 +105	11940	40.00%	$597,000	36.10%

[Lord_Mar7]

Cleveland hasn't been playing up to their potential.

The NFL isn't rigged? News to me....

[PAULYPOKER]

Lets see:

You have Mr. Interception in Mayfield (12 INT's) going against the best "ball hawk" since Ed Reed in MINKAH FITZPATRICK (5 INT's 1 pick 6 and 1 fumble recovery)

What could go wrong here?

Steelers D 2nd to only the Pats in turnover differential @ +13...
and 3rd in SACK total...........

The Brownies are -8 in the turnover differential battle.....

NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS 9	+17	19	8	27	6	4	10
PITTSBURGH STEELERS 9	+13	14	12	26	7	6	13

Cleveland Browns 9

-8

4

5

9

12

5

17

										Carolina Panthers 36	199	78.1
										San Francisco 49ers 35	291	68.5
										Pittsburgh Steelers 33	220	82.8

So, how da fukk are the Brownies favored here??

[Lord_Mar7]

Vegas nose

[Darkside Magick]

Browns by 10+

[Renegades]

Pitt has a good defense, thats about it. Talent wise edge to clev. -3 seems right to me. Edge to thurs night home teams

[RudyRuetigger]

Cleveland is 3rd world shithole

[Lord_Mar7]

Pitt has a good defense, thats about it. Talent wise edge to clev. -3 seems right to me. Edge to thurs night home teams

Valid points.

Cleveland is 3rd world shithole

You put ketchup on your dogs don't you?
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[PAULYPOKER]

This is how Oddsmakers calculate the odds.........
What?
Yeah, it's this simple........

Points For:
Pittsburgh 21.4
-------------Pittsburgh-2.4
Cleveland 19.0


Points Against:
Pittsburgh 20.1
-------------------Pittsburgh -4.5
Cleveland 24.6


Home Field ADV.
Cleveland -3


This is what the ATS is supposed to be.........

ATS
Pittsburgh -4 -110
Cleveland +4 -110

[PAULYPOKER]

Pitt has a good defense, thats about it. Talent wise edge to clev. -3 seems right to me. Edge to thurs night home teams

Pittsburgh's Offense is 2.5 points per game better than Cleveland's.............

[PAULYPOKER]

Pittsburgh's D should be able to beat Cleveland on their own.......

[jjgold]

Browns very capable of winning tonight, many do not understand NFL

[PAULYPOKER]

Lol............Gold..........

I agree,Not many understand how rigged the #1 cash cow NFL actually is........

I understand you must defend the industry here as they write you checks........

[Renegades]

No way pitt would be -4 in this game. No way. Books would be flooded with browns money at +4. Books are comfortable needing the browns here. No result in this game would surprise me. Clev could play up to their potential and win 20-10 just as easily as they could lose another nut twister close game

[PAULYPOKER]

Lol...........The books are flooded with Pittsburgh $$$$ @+3...........

Can't you read?

#1

[stacyleighhanson]

I’ll throw my faith behind Cleveland one last time

[PAULYPOKER]

Here's Scores&Odds top ten bets list for today...........
From LAS VEGAS ODDS

Stations

W. Hill

Hilton

Caesars

MGM

TOP TEN BETS
TODAY'S GAMES

1	Pittsburgh Steelers	Point Spread
2	Pittsburgh Steelers	Money Line
3	Cleveland Browns	Point Spread
4	Cleveland Browns	Money Line
5	Buffalo	Point Spread
6	Pittsburgh Steelers	Over
7	North Carolina	Point Spread
8	Miami Heat	Point Spread
9	Dallas Mavericks	Point Spread
10	Pittsburgh Steelers	Under

	Open	Stations	W. Hill	Hilton	Caesars	MGM	Side	Money	Total

11/14/2019 @ 8:20 PM
309 Pittsburgh Steelers	41.5	42	41.5	41.5	42	42	63%	51%	66%
310 Cleveland Browns	-2.5 -09	-2.5 -20	-3	-3	-3 -05	-3	37%	49%	34%

[PAULYPOKER]

SBR's consensus>


POINTS SPREADS

TIME

PIT

CLE

11/14 02:32 PM	+3 -108 59%	-3 -102 41%
11/14 02:49 AM	+3 -115 59%	-3 +105 41%
11/13 09:47 PM	+3 -110 59%	-3 +100 41%
11/13 01:49 PM	+3 -115 61%	-3 +105 39%
11/13 08:32 AM	+3 -110 61%	-3 +100 39%
11/12 08:12 PM	+2½ +108 62%	-2½ -118 38%
11/12 12:58 PM	+2½ +105 63%	-2½ -115 37%
11/12 08:58 AM	+2½ +100 64%	-2½ -110 36%
11/12 07:30 AM	+2½ +105 65%	-2½ -115 35%
11/11 02:34 PM	+2½ +110 65%	-2½ -120 35%
11/11 12:50 PM	+2½ +105 68%	-2½ -115 32%
11/11 10:01 AM	+2½ +100 69%	-2½ -110 31%
11/11 08:27 AM	+2½ +105 71%	-2½ -115 29%
11/10 07:36 PM	+3 -120 71%	-3 +100 29%

MONEY LINES

TIME

PIT

CLE

11/14 02:31 PM	+140 65%	-150 35%
11/14 02:49 AM	+135 65%	-145 35%
11/13 09:47 PM	+140 69%	-150 31%
11/13 01:49 PM	+135 68%	-145 32%
11/13 08:32 AM	+140 68%	-150 32%
11/12 04:40 PM	+135 67%	-145 33%
11/12 12:58 PM	+130 69%	-140 31%
11/12 08:58 AM	+125 69%	-135 31%
11/12 07:30 AM	+130 69%	-140 31%
11/11 02:34 PM	+135 69%	-145 31%
11/11 12:50 PM	+130 68%	-140 32%
11/11 10:01 AM	+125 68%	-135 32%
11/11 08:27 AM	+130 66%	-140 34%
11/10 07:36 PM	+130 97%	-150 3%

TOTAL

TIME

OVER

UNDER

11/14 02:33 PM	41½ -104 50%	41½ -106 50%
11/14 08:07 AM	41½ -105 50%	41½ -105 50%
11/14 05:10 AM	41½ -103 53%	41½ -107 47%
11/14 04:13 AM	41½ -105 53%	41½ -105 47%
11/13 09:48 PM	41 -108 53%	41 -102 47%
11/13 07:47 PM	41 -105 51%	41 -105 49%
11/13 10:55 AM	40½ -105 50%	40½ -105 50%
11/11 12:50 PM	40 -105 48%	40 -105 52%
11/11 08:27 AM	40½ -105 3%	40½ -105 97%
11/10 08:13 PM	40½ -110 4%	40½ -110 96%

[Lord_Mar7]

Steelers under on 8 of last 10 away games

[PAULYPOKER]

I wouldn't touch this game with a one hundred foot pole!
Lol..........

[PAULYPOKER]

Books are comfortable needing the browns here.

U R exactly right..........

The Books are betting on Cleveland to win and cover ATS.............

[2daBank]

Jfc, way to sound like a clown Pauly, if they win it rigged?? Or maybe it be because their defense is good enough to chew up a backup qb??

[2daBank]

Steelers under on 8 of last 10 away games

I loved under until seaweed posted if saying it was a no brainer, now I expect multiple defensive and special teams scores.

[Lord_Mar7]

O/U 1.5 Sacks - Miles Garrett?

I loved under until seaweed posted if saying it was a no brainer, now I expect multiple defensive and special teams scores.

Lol....I know I'm new here but that's funny.

I'm down under 34.5 now!

[asiagambler]

I loved under until seaweed posted if saying it was a no brainer, now I expect multiple defensive and special teams scores.

I like under too but why did the number move up? I can't see the reasoning

[2daBank]

I like under too but why did the number move up? I can't see the reasoning

No clue. Only way I see it is with defensive scores or at least setting scores up. Seaweed moves lines, against him, lol.

[2daBank]

O/U 1.5 Sacks - Miles Garrett?



Lol....I know I'm new here but that's funny.

I'm down under 34.5 now!

Is that just individually for him? Steelers have a pretty solid oline. Whatevs the total sack prop is the over prob hits tho.

[FOREVER HUSKERS]

Then why isn't the line moving downward with allllllllllllllllllll that steeler play? Browns win simple as that

[Lord_Mar7]

Is that just individually for him? Steelers have a pretty solid oline. Whatevs the total sack prop is the over prob hits tho.

Just my arbitrary # - if he hits or goes over it'll be a long night for the Steelers. Not sure what Vegas has, but Miles needs his name called a few times tonight.

[PAULYPOKER]

Jfc, way to sound like a clown Pauly, if they win it rigged?? Or maybe it be because their defense is good enough to chew up a backup qb??

Lol.............You're thick headed........

Mayfield is an INT factory with shitty amateur numbers to go with it..........

Rudolf is only a backup to Ben as he would be a starter mostly anywhere else...

He's definitely outperforming Mayfield in every aspect..........

Rudolf thru "7" games 11 TD's 4 INT's 93.7 QBR.....


Mayfield thru 9 games 9 TD's 12 INT's 75.2 QBR........(only QB performing worse is Darnold)


Yeah Rudolph's a back up QB alright when compared to those 2 starting stooges,,Lol.........

[2daBank]

Then why isn't the line moving downward with allllllllllllllllllll that steeler play? Browns win simple as that

Heard same nonsense 6 other times this year., specifically against rams and Seattle, lines don’t decide games.

[PAULYPOKER]

Then why isn't the line moving downward with allllllllllllllllllll that steeler play? Browns win simple as that

Ok I'm curious to see your response,,,,

Why isn't the line moving?

[asiagambler]

Rudolph not terrible but he has had it easy and he will be asked to win this game with his arm. That is a tall task on the road and he will be under heavy pressure

[PAULYPOKER]

Or maybe it be because their defense is good enough to chew up a backup qb??

You mean the Defense with 9 total turnovers who can't keep up with it's Offense turnover differential @ -8?

Gonna outperform

A defense with 26 total turnovers way ahead of it's offense @ +13
going against a turnover factory named Mayfield and Chubb?

Child please,Lol..........

[2daBank]

You mean the Defense with 9 total turnovers who can't keep up with it's Offense turnover differential @ -8?

Gonna outperform

A defense with 26 total turnovers way ahead of it's offense @ +13
going against a turnover factory named Mayfield and Chubb?

Child please,Lol..........

Anyone who says only way a team can win is if it rigged is a damn clown. Is your red nose on?