Cousins should be in MVP discussion

[MinnesotaFats]

Your knowledge to discern what actually makes a good quarterback seems on par with your knowledge to post a working hyperlink....

Yeah...

This is for career btw- pretty good company

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[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

^^ My original statement stands; to quote Mr. Clemens: "there are lies, damned lies, and statistics"
One has to look beyond mere stats and... (wait for it)... actually possess KNOWLEDGE of the game to easily recognize that Cousins is slightly better than a so-so quarterback (and in intangibles, HE BLOWS).
Extrapolating your weak argument for Cousins, THE BEEBS is the greatest thing on the music scene right now: NUMBER 1 OVERALL RANKING!!!! (from a Bloomberg article earlier this year) -- hell, forget going to see The Stones @ Allegiant this November... let's all pay to see the beeb's concert... he's the current MUSICAL MVP... HOLLA!

[Git Lo]

Yeah...

This is for career btw- pretty good company

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dak has 4 less years and is ranked higher, everyone else above him have won atleast a ring but hes not any of those guys

[MalikHusam]

If 'hawks win this, I nominate Geno Smith for MVP

[MinnesotaFats]

^^ My original statement stands; to quote Mr. Clemens: "there are lies, damned lies, and statistics"
One has to look beyond mere stats and... (wait for it)... actually possess KNOWLEDGE of the game to easily recognize that Cousins is slightly better than a so-so quarterback (and in intangibles, HE BLOWS).
Extrapolating your weak argument for Cousins, THE BEEBS is the greatest thing on the music scene right now: NUMBER 1 OVERALL RANKING!!!! (from a Bloomberg article earlier this year) -- hell, forget going to see The Stones @ Allegiant this November... let's all pay to see the beeb's concert... he's the current MUSICAL MVP... HOLLA!

What's wrong w Beibers music? I like his beats, like to dance & the chicks love him too.

The Stones...dude, one guy just died lol

This ain't 1984 anymore man- Stones are embarrassing themselves.

Music, btw, is art. It's preference held in the ear of the listener.

Sports is stats. QB play is stats.

It is NOT about rings. If it were, then Brad Johnson, Trent Dilfer, Joe Flacco & Doug Williams would be the highest paid or considered all time greats...and guys like Rivers, Marino, Romo, Tarkenton, Fouts, Kelly, etc would be considered nobodies.

Cousins is going into the HOF guys, he's going to play to 41 or so and be top 5 all time in rating, completion % and top 10 in yards, tds, completions, games started and lowest INT rate.

This, btw, while consistently being top 10 in yards per completion!

[Git Lo]

Joe Flacco has a ring and no one talks about him, Kirk cousins can one win and we would prob forget about him too. See what I did there? What point are you making? Good stats usually translate to good records and/or ring(s).

[MinnesotaFats]

Joe Flacco has a ring and no one talks about him, Kirk cousins can one win and we would prob forget about him too. See what I did there? What point are you making? Good stats usually translate to good records and/or ring(s).

No, they don't lol

Rings are a tram effort. In football, they are usually a defensive effort.

Stats are stats. You either make the the throws or you don't.

There's only 15 dudes in the world that play a competent QB annually....only 1 will get a ring.

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

MinnesotaFats;
What's wrong w Beibers music

(insert McEnroe's "you can't be serious" gif here)

Music, btw, is art. It's preference held in the ear of the listener.
Sports is stats. QB play is stats.

Uh... the chart I posted WAS based on stats, it wasn't someone's opinion poll, as you're implying. It was based on quantifiable stats (sales, instagram/YT stats, etc.). It wasn't subjective. But that wasn't the overall point, anyway. Big Picture Point was: any ranking that has Beiber as #1 in today's music, and any ranking that has Cousins ranked HIGHER than both Peyton & Brady... well, anyone with actual KNOWLEDGE would understand that those rankings are but a small piece of info into properly assessing actual quality.

It is NOT about rings....

I never said it was... so??? Altho, rings are certainly a consideration in the overall picture, obviously.

Cousins is going into the HOF guys....

[swordsandtequila]

Vikings are 26-25-1 in the 4 years Cousins has been the starter. The quarterback he replaced was 13-3. Case fukn' Keenum. Both with Zimmer, Thielen, Diggs. Keenum had Latavius Murray, Cousins has Dalvin Cook. Jefferson replaced Diggs. So roughly the same quality weapons. He's a good quarterback, not great, damn sure not elite. In crunch time he's nothing special. He's a compiler, the Rafael Palmiero of the NFL.

[MinnesotaFats]

Palmero is one of what....3 dudes over w 3000 hits & 500 homers

Compiler or not, he's a HOFr (except for that lying to Congress thing lol)

[stevenash]

If 'hawks win this, I nominate Geno Smith for MVP

What?
No love for Alex Collins?

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

[Git Lo]

cousins and darnold in OT lets see it

[MinnesotaFats]

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It's just another weeks work

Vs a winning team w #2 Defense in NFL

Guy is the best QB in football

Will be in HOF

[Git Lo]

there are several qbs better than cousins and a few up and comers that will prob end up being better than cousins like burrow

[Shutup]

Cooper Rush for Hall of Fame

[Darkside Magick]

[wikkidinsane]

you guys are assholes hahaha

[kingdom]

mvp discussion for the other team..yes of course. every week. he is vinny testaverde mixed with trent dilfer and tony romo.

[MinnesotaFats]

mvp discussion for the other team..yes of course. every week. he is vinny testaverde mixed with trent dilfer and tony romo.

No, he's Phillip Rivers

Kirk has honestly had to bail Zimmer out every fukking week

We have 3 Ferarris on offense and Zimm throttles us down every week after the 1st qtr.

He thinks his defense can win games and it can't....every week we blow a 4th qtr lead and Kirk has to bail us out

[kingdom]

No, he's Phillip Rivers

Kirk has honestly had to bail Zimmer out every fukking week

We have 3 Ferarris on offense and Zimm throttles us down every week after the 1st qtr.

He thinks his defense can win games and it can't....every week we blow a 4th qtr lead and Kirk has to bail us out

correction. he doesn't trust KIRK to bail u guys out. cause that's kinda not what he does lol.. he's a stat stuffer just like romo..

[wikkidinsane]

mvp discussion for the other team..yes of course. every week. he is vinny testaverde mixed with trent dilfer and tony romo.

lmfaooo

[stevenash]

Kirk is the 17th ranked QB in QBR
Stafford is top ranked, Brady is second and he's not close to Stafford

[MinnesotaFats]

correction. he doesn't trust KIRK to bail u guys out. cause that's kinda not what he does lol.. he's a stat stuffer just like romo..

Kirk has bailed him out every game....guy has 15 tds & 2 picks.

Week 1 gw FG missed
Week 2 go FG missed
Week 3 they win
Detroit game we get the gw fg

Literally Kirk should have 3 GW drives in 1st 6 weeks, but kicker missed....and these are fukking miracle drives. Like under 40 seconds stuff

Today he didn't get it but again, team had 0 shots, no creativity, 0 killer instinct in 2nd or 3rd despite multiple gaffs by Dal. Zimmer doesn't put teams away, he's a D coordinator.

[jtoler]

rush completes 24 passes for 324 yds cousins completes 23 passes for 184 yds something not right there

[stevenash]

Kirk is what he is.
A slightly better than mediocre starting QB.

[Kermit]

rush completes 24 passes for 324 yds cousins completes 23 passes for 184 yds something not right there

Dallas' receivers caught their passes.

Cousins laid out a perfect pass for Jefferson early in the game and Jefferson fukked up and stopped instead of running and catching the pass and taking it into the endzone. That woudl have changed the entire game.

[MinnesotaFats]

Kirk is what he is.
A slightly better than mediocre starting QB.

LOL who just happens to be 8th all time in passer rating, the Vikes all time season leader in comp/ att/ yards/ tds etc

Come on...where's your ranking for guts like Rivers, Kreig, Stafford, Luck, Kosar, etc

They never won shit either

[lakerboy]

Kirk is what he is.
A slightly better than mediocre starting QB.

What's good career record? Is he above.500?

[pablo222]

Kirk has bailed him out every game....guy has 15 tds & 2 picks.

Week 1 gw FG missed
Week 2 go FG missed
Week 3 they win
Detroit game we get the gw fg

Literally Kirk should have 3 GW drives in 1st 6 weeks, but kicker missed....and these are fukking miracle drives. Like under 40 seconds stuff

Today he didn't get it but again, team had 0 shots, no creativity, 0 killer instinct in 2nd or 3rd despite multiple gaffs by Dal. Zimmer doesn't put teams away, he's a D coordinator.

They should bring back Keenum to play QB and let Kurt Cousin kick game winning field goals.

[stevenash]

LOL who just happens to be 8th all time in passer rating, the Vikes all time season leader in comp/ att/ yards/ tds etc

Come on...where's your ranking for guts like Rivers, Kreig, Stafford, Luck, Kosar, etc

They never won shit either

Fats.
I know he's 'your' guy and all.
I'll sum up Cousins in two word.
"Pretty good"
He's a pretty good QB.

Stafford?
He's top ranked through seven games.

[unde0087]

Cousins should be bagging groceries at the local Walmart.

[lakerboy]

Cousins should be bagging groceries at the local Walmart.

Well that might get him to the Superbowl.

Warner

[stevenash]

What's good career record? Is he above.500?

No.
Through 115 games Cousins career record is 56-57-2

Now his career record is 56-58-2

[unde0087]

Well that might get him to the Superbowl.

Warner

Laker, he can still get his snaps in, and by snaps I mean unsnapping a paper or plastic bag, but this way he can go home a winner.