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  • KRIT
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-11-14
    • 12878

    #1
    Jon and Jay Gruden
    I know both have crap to work with but neither can coach. Might have the two worst teams in the league.
  • sosawestbrook
    SBR MVP
    • 12-10-16
    • 3135

    #2
    Chucky can coach. Jay on the other hand will need Dwayne to save his job. otherwise hes toast.
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    • TheMoneyShot
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 02-14-07
      • 28672

      #3
      Washington Franchise... sort of reminds me of Detroit. Yeah... Detroit is winning... but hasn't really been tested by anyone yet.

      Arizona is sh#$

      Chargers are sh#$

      Philadelphia is pretty good... but had quite a few injuries.

      Kansas City will pound Detroit into the ground.
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      • KRIT
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 01-11-14
        • 12878

        #4
        Jon Gruden won a SB like two decades ago, doesn’t make him a good cosch. Entirely different game now than when he coached back then.
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        • jjgold
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 07-20-05
          • 388179

          #5
          It’s sad
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          • MinnesotaFats
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 12-18-10
            • 14758

            #6
            Raiders are going to be tough 2020-2025

            They've got an enormous amount of speed and physicalness in the right positions, and very young.

            2 more good drafts and watch out
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            • jjgold
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 07-20-05
              • 388179

              #7
              I would think Gruden could get fired tomorrow
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              • thomorino
                Restricted User
                • 06-01-17
                • 45842

                #8
                No one can win without a QB, keenum and Carr blow.
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                • sosawestbrook
                  SBR MVP
                  • 12-10-16
                  • 3135

                  #9
                  Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                  Raiders are going to be tough 2020-2025

                  They've got an enormous amount of speed and physicalness in the right positions, and very young.

                  2 more good drafts and watch out
                  yes. they just need to decide if they want to move forward w/ Carr or not. id be shocked if he remains a Raider beyond this season.
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                  • thomorino
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                    • 06-01-17
                    • 45842

                    #10
                    Originally posted by sosawestbrook
                    yes. they just need to decide if they want to move forward w/ Carr or not. id be shocked if he remains a Raider beyond this season.
                    Agree, he had 1 good year behind a great offensive line with almost unlimited time to pass. Everyone shits on gruden, cArr is the problem.
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                    • Hman
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 11-04-17
                      • 21429

                      #11
                      We in Tampa Bay wouldn't have a Super Bowl if not for Gruden getting the job done that Tony Dungy couldn't.

                      But you're right, maybe the game has changed too much since he's been gone.
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                      • sosawestbrook
                        SBR MVP
                        • 12-10-16
                        • 3135

                        #12
                        Originally posted by thomorino
                        Agree, he had 1 good year behind a great offensive line with almost unlimited time to pass. Everyone shits on gruden, cArr is the problem.
                        I am ok with Carr. I just don't think he is the guy for this franchise. Gruden will want to pick up a QB & mold him into the franchise star. he didn't sign for 10 years to shift through a bunch of middle of the pack QB's. Raiders have a bunch of assets to make a move if they so please.
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                        • lonegambler23
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 06-22-16
                          • 9760

                          #13
                          no jay is just bad
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                          • TheMoneyShot
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 02-14-07
                            • 28672

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Hman
                            We in Tampa Bay wouldn't have a Super Bowl if not for Gruden getting the job done that Tony Dungy couldn't.

                            But you're right, maybe the game has changed too much since he's been gone.
                            I remember that Super Bowl like it was yesterday....

                            One of my favorite Super Bowl's ever. Happy Tampa Bay won it.
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                            • VeggieDog
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 02-21-09
                              • 7214

                              #15
                              Chucky was stupid for going back to coaching. Cush job in the booth. Making damn good money. Working 1 day a week. Plenty of time for his "giving-back-to-the-kids" projects.
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