Brady +1500 to win MVP

[Goat Milk]

Brady has the easiest schedule, gonna be a 13-3 year easily. If Josh Gordon stays on the field we all know he's a top 7 wr in the world and does things only few can. Edelman still in his prime. Demarius Thomas with a lot to prove. Phillip Dorsett. White, Michael, Burkhead. Brady doesn't need Gronk. He still has weapons everywhere. Looking for something like 4400 yards 36 tds and 7 interceptions with that record. Won't be the best stats in the league maybe but he'll grab the 1 seed.

[gauchojake]

yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!!!! !

[Bostongambler]

I hope he has a great year but look at their D this year .

[JIBBBY]

Not a bad bet!!! Possible..

[Goat Milk]

I hope he has a great year but look at their D this year .

Pretty much the same D that held the rams to 3 points in the superbowl. Only lost Flowers. Hightower healthy now. Mccourtey brothers another year together. Pats D always elite. Plus Bills Jets and Dolphins are all awful this year. Worse than years past. Should be 6 easy wins right there.

[shocka1212]

doubt it

[JIBBBY]

So many NFL futures out.. It's so hard to tell before the season starts.. I'm gonna take the time to run thru them all tomorrow.. It's a VERY long list of futures.. These are just a few..

AFC East Division - Winner
Sun 12/29		25301 New England Patriots win AFC East		-350
1:00PM		25302 Field wins AFC East		+290
Sun 12/29		25303 New York Jets win AFC East		+525
1:00PM		25304 Field wins AFC East		-750
Sun 12/29		25305 Buffalo Bills win AFC East		+800
1:00PM		25306 Field wins AFC East		-1250
Sun 12/29		25307 Miami Dolphins win AFC East		+4000
1:00PM		25308 Field wins AFC East		-10000
AFC North Division - Winner
Sun 12/29		25311 Cleveland Browns win AFC North		+163
1:00PM		25312 Field wins AFC North		-188
Sun 12/29		25313 Pittsburgh Steelers win AFC North		+158
1:00PM		25314 Field wins AFC North		-180
Sun 12/29		25315 Baltimore Ravens win AFC North		+300
1:00PM		25316 Field wins AFC North		-360
Sun 12/29		25317 Cincinnati Bengals win AFC North		+1375
1:00PM		25318 Field wins AFC North		-2400
AFC South Division - Winner
Sun 12/29		25321 Houston Texans win AFC South		+163
1:00PM		25322 Field wins AFC South		-188
Sun 12/29		25323 Jacksonville Jaguars win AFC South		+195
1:00PM		25324 Field wins AFC South		-235
Sun 12/29		25325 Tennessee Titans win AFC South		+370
1:00PM		25326 Field wins AFC South		-465
Sun 12/29		25327 Indianapolis Colts win AFC South		+425
1:00PM		25328 Field wins AFC South		-550
AFC West Division - Winner
Sun 12/29		25331 Kansas City Chiefs win AFC West		-166
1:00PM		25332 Field wins AFC West		+146
Sun 12/29		25333 Los Angeles Chargers win AFC West		+210
1:00PM		25334 Field wins AFC West		-250
Sun 12/29		25335 Denver Broncos win AFC West		+1150
1:00PM		25336 Field wins AFC West		-1800
Sun 12/29		25337 Oakland Raiders win AFC West		+2600
1:00PM		25338 Field wins AFC West		-5400
NFC East Division - Winner
Sun 12/29		25351 Philadelphia Eagles win NFC East		-158
1:00PM		25352 Field wins NFC East		+138
Sun 12/29		25353 Dallas Cowboys win NFC East		+185
1:00PM		25354 Field wins NFC East		-225
Sun 12/29		25355 New York Giants win NFC East		+1075
1:00PM		25356 Field wins NFC East		-1650
Sun 12/29		25357 Washington Redskins win NFC East		+1850
1:00PM		25358 Field wins NFC East		-3700
NFC North Division - Winner
Sun 12/29		25361 Chicago Bears win NFC North		+195
1:00PM		25362 Field wins NFC North		-235
Sun 12/29		25363 Minnesota Vikings win NFC North		+210
1:00PM		25364 Field wins NFC North		-250
Sun 12/29		25365 Green Bay Packers win NFC North		+210
1:00PM		25366 Field wins NFC North		-250
Sun 12/29		25367 Detroit Lions win NFC North		+950
1:00PM		25368 Field wins NFC North		-1450
NFC South Division - Winner
Sun 12/29		25371 New Orleans Saints win NFC South		-143
1:00PM		25372 Field wins NFC South		+123
Sun 12/29		25373 Atlanta Falcons win NFC South		+320
1:00PM		25374 Field wins NFC South		-390
Sun 12/29		25375 Carolina Panthers win NFC South		+450
1:00PM		25376 Field wins NFC South		-600
Sun 12/29		25377 Tampa Bay Buccaneers win NFC South		+1400
1:00PM		25378 Field wins NFC South		-2500
NFC West Division - Winner
Sun 12/29		25381 Los Angeles Rams win NFC West		-152
1:00PM		25382 Field wins NFC West		+132
Sun 12/29		25383 Seattle Seahawks win NFC West		+315
1:00PM		25384 Field wins NFC West		-380
Sun 12/29		25385 San Francisco 49ers win NFC West		+405
1:00PM		25386 Field wins NFC West		-510
Sun 12/29		25387 Arizona Cardinals win NFC West		+1700
1:00PM		25388 Field wins NFC West		-3400
AFC East - Exact Finishing Position

[RudyRuetigger]

I'd be surprised if he finished this year


Vegans aren't that strong

[2daBank]

Pretty much the same D that held the rams to 3 points in the superbowl. Only lost Flowers. Hightower healthy now. Mccourtey brothers another year together. Pats D always elite. Plus Bills Jets and Dolphins are all awful this year. Worse than years past. Should be 6 easy wins right there.

Dolphins beat them one time when they awful lots of seasons. Jets are not 2 easy wins anymore. Bills capable of giving them 1 game but will prob lose both.

Pats gonna be a power run team, Brady still gets it done when it matters but he not a mvp caliber player for 16 games any longer.

Welcome back, still little pissed at you for telling me to bet warriors! Lol

[kingdom]

at that price hell yeah. mahomes won't win b2b. if pats have best record will help as well. rodgers obviously will be big competition if he has great year without mm. and donald will be in play if they decide to give it to a defensive player.

[2daBank]

I hope he has a great year but look at their D this year .

Not sure what this means? D should be good. Bad d be better for mvp numbers but I suspect pats gonna pound the rock a bunch and play defense.

[2daBank]

Kinda crazy to assume Gordon is still the same guy after being out the league how long?

[TheMoneyShot]

Is this a carry over from Golden State?

[Goat Milk]

Dolphins beat them one time when they awful lots of seasons. Jets are not 2 easy wins anymore. Bills capable of giving them 1 game but will prob lose both.

Pats gonna be a power run team, Brady still gets it done when it matters but he not a mvp caliber player for 16 games any longer.

Welcome back, still little pissed at you for telling me to bet warriors! Lol

Well KD got inujred, then Klay tore his ACL bro. That series was finished. Even without Durant, Toronto was not gonna win a game 7 vs klay and steph. It was a fluke championship. Plain and simple.

Brady is still the best qb in the NFL. I think we found that out in the AFC championship game versus the Chiefs. Doubters will always be proven wrong. Same as every year. Gordon is the best weapon Brady's had since Randy Moss, if he stays on the field. Don't think ppl fully understand how good Josh Gordon is. Was on track to be one of the best WRs in history.

[Goat Milk]

Only guys I can see beating him are

Mahomes
Watson
Brees
Rodgers
Wentz

Don't see anyone else being in the running.

[gauchojake]

I get the sense that it's going to be a long year for TB12 with no Gronk.

[ThaTopMoron]

Dorsett def the difference maker

[kingdom]

So many NFL futures out.. It's so hard to tell before the season starts.. I'm gonna take the time to run thru them all tomorrow.. It's a VERY long list of futures.. These are just a few..

AFC East Division - Winner
Sun 12/29		25301 New England Patriots win AFC East		-350
1:00PM		25302 Field wins AFC East		+290
Sun 12/29		25303 New York Jets win AFC East		+525
1:00PM		25304 Field wins AFC East		-750
Sun 12/29		25305 Buffalo Bills win AFC East		+800
1:00PM		25306 Field wins AFC East		-1250
Sun 12/29		25307 Miami Dolphins win AFC East		+4000
1:00PM		25308 Field wins AFC East		-10000
AFC North Division - Winner
Sun 12/29		25311 Cleveland Browns win AFC North		+163
1:00PM		25312 Field wins AFC North		-188
Sun 12/29		25313 Pittsburgh Steelers win AFC North		+158
1:00PM		25314 Field wins AFC North		-180
Sun 12/29		25315 Baltimore Ravens win AFC North		+300
1:00PM		25316 Field wins AFC North		-360
Sun 12/29		25317 Cincinnati Bengals win AFC North		+1375
1:00PM		25318 Field wins AFC North		-2400
AFC South Division - Winner
Sun 12/29		25321 Houston Texans win AFC South		+163
1:00PM		25322 Field wins AFC South		-188
Sun 12/29		25323 Jacksonville Jaguars win AFC South		+195
1:00PM		25324 Field wins AFC South		-235
Sun 12/29		25325 Tennessee Titans win AFC South		+370
1:00PM		25326 Field wins AFC South		-465
Sun 12/29		25327 Indianapolis Colts win AFC South		+425
1:00PM		25328 Field wins AFC South		-550
AFC West Division - Winner
Sun 12/29		25331 Kansas City Chiefs win AFC West		-166
1:00PM		25332 Field wins AFC West		+146
Sun 12/29		25333 Los Angeles Chargers win AFC West		+210
1:00PM		25334 Field wins AFC West		-250
Sun 12/29		25335 Denver Broncos win AFC West		+1150
1:00PM		25336 Field wins AFC West		-1800
Sun 12/29		25337 Oakland Raiders win AFC West		+2600
1:00PM		25338 Field wins AFC West		-5400
NFC East Division - Winner
Sun 12/29		25351 Philadelphia Eagles win NFC East		-158
1:00PM		25352 Field wins NFC East		+138
Sun 12/29		25353 Dallas Cowboys win NFC East		+185
1:00PM		25354 Field wins NFC East		-225
Sun 12/29		25355 New York Giants win NFC East		+1075
1:00PM		25356 Field wins NFC East		-1650
Sun 12/29		25357 Washington Redskins win NFC East		+1850
1:00PM		25358 Field wins NFC East		-3700
NFC North Division - Winner
Sun 12/29		25361 Chicago Bears win NFC North		+195
1:00PM		25362 Field wins NFC North		-235
Sun 12/29		25363 Minnesota Vikings win NFC North		+210
1:00PM		25364 Field wins NFC North		-250
Sun 12/29		25365 Green Bay Packers win NFC North		+210
1:00PM		25366 Field wins NFC North		-250
Sun 12/29		25367 Detroit Lions win NFC North		+950
1:00PM		25368 Field wins NFC North		-1450
NFC South Division - Winner
Sun 12/29		25371 New Orleans Saints win NFC South		-143
1:00PM		25372 Field wins NFC South		+123
Sun 12/29		25373 Atlanta Falcons win NFC South		+320
1:00PM		25374 Field wins NFC South		-390
Sun 12/29		25375 Carolina Panthers win NFC South		+450
1:00PM		25376 Field wins NFC South		-600
Sun 12/29		25377 Tampa Bay Buccaneers win NFC South		+1400
1:00PM		25378 Field wins NFC South		-2500
NFC West Division - Winner
Sun 12/29		25381 Los Angeles Rams win NFC West		-152
1:00PM		25382 Field wins NFC West		+132
Sun 12/29		25383 Seattle Seahawks win NFC West		+315
1:00PM		25384 Field wins NFC West		-380
Sun 12/29		25385 San Francisco 49ers win NFC West		+405
1:00PM		25386 Field wins NFC West		-510
Sun 12/29		25387 Arizona Cardinals win NFC West		+1700
1:00PM		25388 Field wins NFC West		-3400
AFC East - Exact Finishing Position

pats and chiefs are locks. chargers will always screw up,. taking the rams and hawks in west is profitable. good value on falcons and panthers.

[Goat Milk]

I get the sense that it's going to be a long year for TB12 with no Gronk.

Gronk hasn't done anything in years bro. Guy never plays, and when he does he's 50%. His stats have been garbage for awhile now.

[kingdom]

Only guys I can see beating him are

Mahomes
Watson
Brees
Rodgers
Wentz

Don't see anyone else being in the running.

Mahomes would have to repeat last season which is hard. Watson won't have more wins. Wentz may not stay healthy. if zeke runs for 1800+ and cowboy are 13-3 he's in the running. and if aaron donald repeats last year he is as well.

[gauchojake]

Gronk hasn't done anything in years bro. Guy never plays, and when he does he's 50%. His stats have been garbage for awhile now.

He was the 11th best TE last year offensively and played 13 games. I would also suggest that Gronk was one of the better blocking TE's in the NFL and knows Belichick's schemes as well as Brady.

Other than that point taken.

GL with your bet.

[shocka1212]

Saquon

[2daBank]

Well KD got inujred, then Klay tore his ACL bro. That series was finished. Even without Durant, Toronto was not gonna win a game 7 vs klay and steph. It was a fluke championship. Plain and simple.

Brady is still the best qb in the NFL. I think we found that out in the AFC championship game versus the Chiefs. Doubters will always be proven wrong. Same as every year. Gordon is the best weapon Brady's had since Randy Moss, if he stays on the field. Don't think ppl fully understand how good Josh Gordon is. Was on track to be one of the best WRs in history.

When the last time he won mvp? I won’t be proven wrong cause he not gonna win it this year either. I don’t doubt him, still wouldn’t bet against him when it counts but I don’t think he will put up anywhere near the numbers to win mvp. Don’t see them winning 13 games either. Prob 11, maybe 12.

[DR225]

It's crazy that Brady is around +1500 and Daniel Jones is around +3100. I might be mistaken but I don't think Jones is even going to initially start.

[lakerboy]

Brady isn't even going to throw much.

[2daBank]

Brady isn't even going to throw much.

my thoughts exactly. They built a big ol power run team for this season it looks like to me.. I’d imagine if hoody has it his way Brady won’t be throwing more than 25 or so passes most weeks. Power football and defense looks to be this version of pats.

[shocka1212]

my thoughts exactly. They built a big ol power run team for this season it looks like to me.. I’d imagine if hoody has it his way Brady won’t be throwing more than 25 or so passes most weeks. Power football and defense looks to be this version of pats.

yea but you know they dick ride this dude for throwing passes to the flats and crossing routes like he just reinvented the wheel

[jjgold]

Brady Still the best player in football always a good wager

[2daBank]

yea but you know they dick ride this dude for throwing passes to the flats and crossing routes like he just reinvented the wheel

Just don’t see the numbers being there for mvp in a league lot of guys gonna put up video game numbers.

[Booya711]

Thought this clown choked on his fake gold chains

[b1slickguy]

Uh-oh.
Career ending injury in week 4 in Buffalo.

[OVAKUL]

I hope he has a great year but look at their D this year.

But bad D improves his chance of racking up stats, like Mahomes last szn

[Goat Milk]

When the last time he won mvp? I won’t be proven wrong cause he not gonna win it this year either. I don’t doubt him, still wouldn’t bet against him when it counts but I don’t think he will put up anywhere near the numbers to win mvp. Don’t see them winning 13 games either. Prob 11, maybe 12.

he just won it in 2017 when he was 40 yrs old.

[Goat Milk]

Brady isn't even going to throw much.

What if the Pats go 15-1? Don't see them losing more than 3 games. Brady will toss 2 tds a game. That's 32 tds.

[cincinnatikid513]

What if the Pats go 15-1? Don't see them losing more than 3 games. Brady will toss 2 tds a game. That's 32 tds.

team total over 11 wins looks too easy