Biden's record is atrocious, I don't know how any african-american could support him after what he did to their communities with the 1994 crime bill.
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thomorinoRestricted User
- 06-01-17
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The KrakenBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 12-25-11
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#37That was my point, Biden will get plenty of support regardless of the narrative being pumped out, just like Trump got a lot of support from groups he wasnt predicted to it fromComment -
Cuse0323BARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 12-09-09
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#38Still think Harris can pull it off. A minority woman with actual substance behind her policies. I don’t agree with her about much, but she isn’t just some windbag running on the Trump is bad platform. She should do well in debates, and pick up some steam afterwards. I think she could swing moderates her way while swinging left enough for progressives. May be able to get the union workers on her side. She did well on her MSNBC town hall. Gonna throw some change on her at +500 to win the nomination.Comment -
inmyownzoneSBR MVP
- 12-31-12
- 1953
#39Biden fades. And Bernie finally gets his shot. I don’t think you old white men realize how much backing Booker really has though.Comment -
TenPointMattSBR Rookie
- 02-25-19
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#40Still think Harris can pull it off. A minority woman with actual substance behind her policies. I don’t agree with her about much, but she isn’t just some windbag running on the Trump is bad platform. She should do well in debates, and pick up some steam afterwards. I think she could swing moderates her way while swinging left enough for progressives. May be able to get the union workers on her side. She did well on her MSNBC town hall. Gonna throw some change on her at +500 to win the nomination.
Feminists gonna spin this as some sort of rallying cry, but subconsciously they know she was owned bigly. By a 110 pound, straight, white, cisgendered, heteronormative, mansplaining male, no less. Make no mistake - this one hit them where it hurts.Comment -
thechaozSBR Posting Legend
- 10-23-09
- 12154
#41Don't let your politics get in the way of your gambling. He lost by 4 million votes and got wrecked in the midterms.
I'd put Trump at best even money. He's pissing off a lot of farmers, truck drivers, and others who deal in import/exports right now.
Another huge factor is college educated woman who voted for him are bailing hard.
He will get killed in blacks, hispanics, anyone that has any sort of education.
His win was a miraculous sweep of all the swing states he needed.Comment -
thechaozSBR Posting Legend
- 10-23-09
- 12154
#42Still think Harris can pull it off. A minority woman with actual substance behind her policies. I don’t agree with her about much, but she isn’t just some windbag running on the Trump is bad platform. She should do well in debates, and pick up some steam afterwards. I think she could swing moderates her way while swinging left enough for progressives. May be able to get the union workers on her side. She did well on her MSNBC town hall. Gonna throw some change on her at +500 to win the nomination.
As of now I like Beto, he's trying to be inclusive and bringing people together. He doesn't take the bait on tv trashing gop of Trump voters, sort or like Obama did, which we certaintly need (remember we are all on the same side guys?)
I think a lot of the younger gen likes Biden, but they want a new voice. Bernie I think has run his course though we appreciate his lifetime of acheivement.
You never know who might pop up in the debates, but those are my early front runners.Comment -
JayLASBR Hall of Famer
- 09-11-12
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#43The left is so lame....Comment -
thomorinoRestricted User
- 06-01-17
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#44
I'm progressive but Harris just irks me. I think it's my cop detector, or that she really hasn't said anything.
As of now I like Beto, he's trying to be inclusive and bringing people together. He doesn't take the bait on tv trashing gop of Trump voters, sort or like Obama did, which we certaintly need (remember we are all on the same side guys?)
I think a lot of the younger gen likes Biden, but they want a new voice. Bernie I think has run his course though we appreciate his lifetime of acheivement.
You never know who might pop up in the debates, but those are my early front runners.Comment -
JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
- 12-10-09
- 83686
#45Dem field is a joke. All of them..
Obama must be shaking his head right about now saying to himself we have NO CHANCE. Bernie is an old white kook with wild ideas, Biden is also an old white stiff with the personality of a dead horse. Touchy feely and creepy. Young voting Dems really don't want either. After that you got 2 Chicks in Warren and Harris that lie about heritage and or that only hate on Trump with really no policy ideas.. Neither are that likeable either..
Clown show.. Trump skates to victory if someone doesn't really start shining and or steps up.Comment -
TenPointMattSBR Rookie
- 02-25-19
- 43
#46Dem field is a joke. All of them..
Obama must be shaking his head right about now saying to himself we have NO CHANCE. Bernie is an old white kook with wild ideas, Biden is also an old white stiff with the personality of a dead horse. Touchy feely and creepy. Young voting Dems really don't want either. After that you got 2 Chicks in Warren and Harris that lie about heritage and or that only hate on Trump with really no policy ideas.. Neither are that likeable either..
Clown show.. Trump skates to victory if someone doesn't really start shining and or steps up.
1. He gay, so #MeToo has no effect. Dem party is 100% angry women now, but women don't know how to attack a gay guy.
2. He knows how to act and can give a speech (shades of Obama) - listen to one of his speeches where he whines about 'child separation' - he's got his cadence down perfectly, and Dems love when people cry about shit. Especially 'the children'.
3. Military service.
4. Millennial. He knows how to work social media, can speak the 'reddit/snarky/cool kid' language. Can spin his youth into a strength because 'climate change' will affect him more than the old cats in the race (i.e. the world is gonna end in 12 years and Biden will be dead by then, so vote for me because I'm 30 and I care more).
Guy should be close to even money.Comment -
The KrakenBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 12-25-11
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#47I'm progressive but Harris just irks me. I think it's my cop detector, or that she really hasn't said anything.
As of now I like Beto, he's trying to be inclusive and bringing people together. He doesn't take the bait on tv trashing gop of Trump voters, sort or like Obama did, which we certaintly need (remember we are all on the same side guys?)
I think a lot of the younger gen likes Biden, but they want a new voice. Bernie I think has run his course though we appreciate his lifetime of acheivement.
You never know who might pop up in the debates, but those are my early front runners.
Think about the GOP at this stage in 2015, they were pure trash fire. Had no clear front runner, Teump was the laughing stock of the entire primaries, and it seemed they had no shot.
Its so early, things will change, someone will emerge and then its up to that person to engage Democratic voters and get them to the polls. Every election is the same, high voter turnout = Dem win, low voter turnout = gop win. The Democratic nominee ileither energizes the party and wins, or doesnt and losesComment -
SnowballBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 11-15-09
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#48
all Biden has to do is not.mess.up.
he should be -200 not +135Comment -
eidolonSBR Hall of Famer
- 01-02-08
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#49Still think Harris can pull it off. A minority woman with actual substance behind her policies. I don’t agree with her about much, but she isn’t just some windbag running on the Trump is bad platform. She should do well in debates, and pick up some steam afterwards. I think she could swing moderates her way while swinging left enough for progressives. May be able to get the union workers on her side. She did well on her MSNBC town hall. Gonna throw some change on her at +500 to win the nomination.Comment -
The KrakenBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 12-25-11
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#50Dem field is a joke. All of them..
Obama must be shaking his head right about now saying to himself we have NO CHANCE. Bernie is an old white kook with wild ideas, Biden is also an old white stiff with the personality of a dead horse. Touchy feely and creepy. Young voting Dems really don't want either. After that you got 2 Chicks in Warren and Harris that lie about heritage and or that only hate on Trump with really no policy ideas.. Neither are that likeable either..
Clown show.. Trump skates to victory if someone doesn't really start shining and or steps up.Comment -
JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
- 12-10-09
- 83686
#51This is why you bet the farm on mayor Pete.
1. He gay, so #MeToo has no effect. Dem party is 100% angry women now, but women don't know how to attack a gay guy.
2. He knows how to act and can give a speech (shades of Obama) - listen to one of his speeches where he whines about 'child separation' - he's got his cadence down perfectly, and Dems love when people cry about shit. Especially 'the children'.
3. Military service.
4. Millennial. He knows how to work social media, can speak the 'reddit/snarky/cool kid' language. Can spin his youth into a strength because 'climate change' will affect him more than the old cats in the race (i.e. the world is gonna end in 12 years and Biden will be dead by then, so vote for me because I'm 30 and I care more).
Guy should be close to even money.
You do make good points though.. I'm still not so sure he'll pick up the black votes though. Gay status might hurt him there. I think America isn't ready for a Gay President, I think Dems will vote in a woman before gay Petey..Comment -
EmpireMakerSBR Posting Legend
- 06-18-09
- 15581
#52Pete is a racist, he bulldozed poor neighborhoods where all of the POC lived and fired the first Black police chief of South Bend for no good reason. POC won't come out to vote for him. Plus he is the mayor of the 156th largest metro in the US and reallt has done nothing good whatsoever. He has ZERO chance.
This is why you bet the farm on mayor Pete.
1. He gay, so #MeToo has no effect. Dem party is 100% angry women now, but women don't know how to attack a gay guy.
2. He knows how to act and can give a speech (shades of Obama) - listen to one of his speeches where he whines about 'child separation' - he's got his cadence down perfectly, and Dems love when people cry about shit. Especially 'the children'.
3. Military service.
4. Millennial. He knows how to work social media, can speak the 'reddit/snarky/cool kid' language. Can spin his youth into a strength because 'climate change' will affect him more than the old cats in the race (i.e. the world is gonna end in 12 years and Biden will be dead by then, so vote for me because I'm 30 and I care more).
Guy should be close to even money.Comment -
bigbubbafadeSBR Wise Guy
- 08-15-17
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#53Camela Harris has the best chance.
She's going to play the race card and gender card like it's nobody's business.
She will be great at guilting voters into choosing her. The media will eat it up.Comment -
TenPointMattSBR Rookie
- 02-25-19
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#54He will need to pick up major steam as he's still not a big name like Bernie and Biden. He's still flying under the radar. He'll have to do amazing in the Dem debates I believe to get the NOM.
You do make good points though.. I'm still not so sure he'll pick up the black votes though. Gay status might hurt him there. I think America isn't ready for a Gay President, I think Dems will vote in a woman before gay Petey..
I see him smoking it in the first few debates, where he will pull Bernies base out from under him. In 2016 Sanders was novel and cool, but a lot of those pr0g voters see him as stale and cranky this time around - my overeducated friends on facebook who were on Bernie are jumping ship and are alllllll over Pete's nutsack.
This essentially gets him to a heads up showdown with Biden. And I think he can win that matchup simply based not being a sexual predator who touches little girls. Women have lost their minds, and they run that penetrating party. They will come out in force for Pete if it's perceived to be between him and Joe.Comment -
EmpireMakerSBR Posting Legend
- 06-18-09
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#55Not a single member of Bernie's base will ever vote for Pete. His positions are very right leaning/Republican. The only reason he's even being considered is that he answered questions well in a CNN town Hall. The real left won't vote for him, POC won't vote for him and people that don't want a gay President won't vote for him and people that want a candidate with experience won't vote for him.
You're right, black vote is gonna be rough for Boot Edge Edge. But he will dominate the women's vote, which is more than enough.
I see him smoking it in the first few debates, where he will pull Bernies base out from under him. In 2016 Sanders was novel and cool, but a lot of those pr0g voters see him as stale and cranky this time around - my overeducated friends on facebook who were on Bernie are jumping ship and are alllllll over Pete's nutsack.
This essentially gets him to a heads up showdown with Biden. And I think he can win that matchup simply based not being a sexual predator who touches little girls. Women have lost their minds, and they run that penetrating party. They will come out in force for Pete if it's perceived to be between him and Joe.Comment -
TenPointMattSBR Rookie
- 02-25-19
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#56The media will fawn over her endlessly. But many of the dem voters will panic and bail, because they know she will lose to Trump with 100% certainty in the Finals. They're gonna aim for rust belt vote, which means Biden, Mayor Pete, and (possibly) Bernie are the only ones with a shot.Comment -
TenPointMattSBR Rookie
- 02-25-19
- 43
#57Not a single member of Bernie's base will ever vote for Pete. His positions are very right leaning/Republican. The only reason he's even being considered is that he answered questions well in a CNN town Hall. The real left won't vote for him, POC won't vote for him and people that don't want a gay President won't vote for him and people that want a candidate with experience won't vote for him.Comment -
EmpireMakerSBR Posting Legend
- 06-18-09
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RoyBaconBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 09-21-05
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#60You're right, black vote is gonna be rough for Boot Edge Edge. But he will dominate the women's vote, which is more than enough.
I see him smoking it in the first few debates, where he will pull Bernies base out from under him. In 2016 Sanders was novel and cool, but a lot of those pr0g voters see him as stale and cranky this time around - my overeducated friends on facebook who were on Bernie are jumping ship and are alllllll over Pete's nutsack.
This essentially gets him to a heads up showdown with Biden. And I think he can win that matchup simply based not being a sexual predator who touches little girls. Women have lost their minds, and they run that penetrating party. They will come out in force for Pete if it's perceived to be between him and Joe.
That would be fun if it breaks that way.
I agree Bernie is toast. I just don't see them landing on pete for some of the reasons EM mentioned. The hillary dems have no choice but to default to Biden.Comment -
eidolonSBR Hall of Famer
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#61I heard a gay hispanic female will be running for the republican nomination in 2024Comment -
TenPointMattSBR Rookie
- 02-25-19
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#62I'm calling it. Biden's campaign officially over. He just doesn't know it yet. This photo from yesterday is making the rounds now (LOL):
And for good measure MSM is dragging Anita Hill out of the grave to smear poor Joe on Lester Holt's show. Dear God, even I didn't anticipate how much they despise him - he gonna be generating almost as much hate-coverage and ragebait headlines as Trump does for the entire course of the primary.
You know what to do gentlemen.
SELL THIS PIECE OF SHITComment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
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#63Trump laughing at them all
Even taunts themComment -
bettilimbroke999SBR Posting Legend
- 02-04-08
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#64Some illegal MS-13 member is the frontrunnerComment
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