I got my strikeout prop voided on Mengden because Oakland decided to use an "Opener" to start the game for the first inning. I understand why the "Must Start" rule is there.....but this shouldn't be used for it. He was still scheduled to pitch.
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I hear you. But in books eyes, there is no such thing as "scheduled to pitch", as after starter/opener, manager is not mandated to bring in guy that was "scheduled to pitch" if he changes his mind.Comment -
Betonline has a big problem with these because they've been voiding all bets that feature an opener. Even though they use the verbiage "must pitch" instead of "must start"Comment -
I wonder what they would do if a manager didn't state he was using a pitcher for one inning. There's nothing that says he has to. There are guys in the bullpen who can go 5.Originally posted by LT Profits
That's BS.Originally posted by pinnerpskComment -
Happened last week with Red Sox when Weber started what was supposed to be a Bullpen Day and he went 6 innings.Originally posted by BluehorseshoeComment -
Here we go...
OPENER MEANS ANY STARTING PITCHER FOR SEATTLE
06/04
10:10
Houston Astros
C Martin - R
Seattle Mariners
OpenerComment -
This is the part of the MLB season that I hate... nothing really "scheduled".... just BS.Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe
Need to wait until game time... to know who's going to throw or not. Options limited.
Out of the 4 major sports.... hate MLB #1Comment -
Great thread topic
yeah I personally think this trend of “Openers” is bad for baseball and so is the shift
just go back to playing normal baseball
blame the Rays for destroying a great gameComment -
Also sick of hearing about spin rate and launch angleComment -
Was it Tampa or Colorado that started it? I know the original idea was from a book back in 1964.Originally posted by Big BearComment -
blame the Tampa Bay Rays for starting this trend last year. it was a novel idea but it worked for them.. almost had a shot at a wildcard . now other teams playing copycatComment -
Dont list pitchers, action instead.Comment -
Baseball wears fans out. aAt least some scoring lately but these 2-0 games that go to the 15th inning are just agonizing. Game is watered down with too many teams and the odd player with half billion dollar contracts make the average joe hate the game out of spite.Comment -
Thats a problem if they are not using the proper terminologyOriginally posted by pinnerpskComment -
This needs to be done more often. This is more of a problem this year with some teams not announcing the opener until the day of. I've had bets from the day before voided because the books think the regular starter is pitching and then the opener gets announced.Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe
Last year when Tampa started doing this they seemed to always know it was going to be an opener. Teams either need to be held to that standard or the books need to adapt.Comment -
yeah. get rid of the shift. the league wants offense. make it an illegal defense. still surprised so many pros can't take advantage and slap the ballOriginally posted by Big BearComment -
No need to list starting pitchers. Teams should be allowed to start whoever they want without advanced notice. A soccer coach doesn't announce the lineup the day before. You don't need to give the opposing manager time to adjust his squad.Comment -
Yes and books should offer +200 on both sides in MLB.Originally posted by pavyracer
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not good for props and totalsOriginally posted by StallionComment -
I laughed at this for a little while, but now you have teams throwing openers for the starters at the last minute. Bets being voided is a problem. Sites should have a clear policy.Comment -
Lineup needs to be announced 1 hour before first pitch. No need to announce it the day before. Bets can be placed when lineup is announced. What's is the benefit of betting the night before?Originally posted by iconYes and books should offer +200 on both sides in MLB.
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