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  • jtoler
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    #36
    Originally posted by thomorino
    The most likely outcome after game 1 and 2 is a split, and Curry has struggled in the finals against teams that get physical with him.
    which team(s) were physical with him?

    Steph Curry's Finals averages:

    2018: 27.5 pts, 6.8 ast, 6.0 reb
    2017: 26.8 pts, 5.4 ast, 8.2 reb
    2016: 22.6 pts, 3.7 ast, 4.9 reb
    2015: 26.0 pts, 6.3 ast, 5.2 reb

    his shooting percentages were down vs. regular season though but its the finals Id expect that, kd's percentages were up from his reg. season though
    Last edited by jtoler; 05-28-19, 03:50 PM.
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    • 2daBank
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      #37
      Originally posted by asiagambler
      The problem is that even if he does come back, I doubt he will be 100%.

      But 18-1 I suppose is worth a shot.
      Kinda what I’m thinking, between that and having so much time off it feels like be asking a awful lot of him to jump in gm3 or whatever and dominate vs a guy like khawi.
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      • 2daBank
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        #38
        Originally posted by lakerboy
        Steve Kerr made it pretty clear yesterday that bringing guys in at this stage ruins things. Sure Durant wants to prove they need him and they want to prove they don't. I just don't think he will play in this series and my money is on Tor because of that. This is the one series where they need him. Kawhi will become a roaming defender and that works too the raptors advantage
        I agree I think it would be a mistake to bring him back, and who cares if it hurts his fragile little ego? not like he gonna be playing for them after this season so fukk him imo... I honestly don’t think they need him, if I’m wrong and your squad kicks their asses the 1st 2 in Toronto maybe then you think about it. At the moment seems silly to fukk with a good thing.
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        • thomorino
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          #39
          Originally posted by jtoler

          which team(s) were physical with him?

          Steph Curry's Finals averages:

          2018: 27.5 pts, 6.8 ast, 6.0 reb
          2017: 26.8 pts, 5.4 ast, 8.2 reb
          2016: 22.6 pts, 3.7 ast, 4.9 reb
          2015: 26.0 pts, 6.3 ast, 5.2 reb

          his shooting percentages were down vs. regular season though but its the finals Id expect that, kd's percentages were up from his reg. season though
          You can't just look at points per game, you have to look at percentages, if you shoot enough you will score, there's a reason he's never won Finals MVP.
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          • 2daBank
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            #40
            Originally posted by thomorino
            The Warriors have dealt with guy coming in and out of the lineup in the playoffs in the past, its never been a big deal. Durant has been out several weeks, not months.
            Several weeks while others in playoff mode is a lot imo. Can’t imagine he be anywhere close to 100% and just think it expecting a lot for him to jump right in and be his normal self especially against a really good and physical defender.

            18 to 1 is nice tho and assuming you not betting a lot on it? Just feels like a lot of unlikely things have to occur to cash this.
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            • 2daBank
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              #41
              Originally posted by thomorino
              You can't just look at points per game, you have to look at percentages, if you shoot enough you will score, there's a reason he's never won Finals MVP.
              Because he defers to KD is a big reason.

              Who won it the 1st year before KD? I forget.
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              • jtoler
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                #42
                Originally posted by thomorino
                You can't just look at points per game, you have to look at percentages, if you shoot enough you will score, there's a reason he's never won Finals MVP.
                I mentioned shooting percentages from what I can tell thats the only reason he didnt win it last year kd shot better and had a few more rebounds but kd is gonna miss prob at least 2 games and maybe more at 18-1 it looks like something you''d wanna have in your back pocket but obviously books are saying its just gonna be too hard with missing 2 or more games. here's a scenario though, if gs loses the first 2 games or even split the first 2 and kd comes back starting game 3 and they go on to win the finals and he's the main reason why then I can see him winning it. best scenario is if gs loses first 2 in toronto and everyone is kinda down on them kd comes back and they win, its a good ticket to have I agree morino Im gonna put a little something on it myself
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                • 2daBank
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                  #43
                  Originally posted by jtoler
                  I mentioned shooting percentages from what I can tell thats the only reason he didnt win it last year kd shot better and had a few more rebounds but kd is gonna miss prob at least 2 games and maybe more at 18-1 it looks like something you''d wanna have in your back pocket but obviously books are saying its just gonna be too hard with missing 2 or more games. here's a scenario though, if gs loses the first 2 games or even split the first 2 and kd comes back starting game 3 and they go on to win the finals and he's the main reason why then I can see him winning it. best scenario is if gs loses first 2 in toronto and everyone is kinda down on them kd comes back and they win, its a good ticket to have I agree morino Im gonna put a little something on it myself
                  Thing is I just don’t see dubs losing the 1st 2, other than that I really feel like him coming back could do more harm than good.. This goes out the window if they do lose the 1st 2, if that happens and he comes back and they win it probably a no brainer he would win it. Seems like lot a unlikely things have to happen to me but that why you getting 18-1.
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                  • jtoler
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                    #44
                    Originally posted by 2daBank
                    Thing is I just don’t see dubs losing the 1st 2, other than that I really feel like him coming back could do more harm than good.. This goes out the window if they do lose the 1st 2, if that happens and he comes back and they win it probably a no brainer he would win it. Seems like lot a unlikely things have to happen to me but that why you getting 18-1.
                    I dont know man I expect toronto to win at least 1 of the first 2 curry struggles when he's being antsy and shooting too quickly other scary thing is portland isnt all that good to me compared to gs and they had those big leads against gs in 3 of the 4 games they played
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                    • Stallion
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                      #45
                      Klay Thompson at 20-1 is better.
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                      • TheMoneyShot
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                        #46
                        Toronto is the only team built to defend. G.S. went through teams that couldn't defend dikk.

                        Durant is worthless.... Cousins is worthless....

                        Kerr scratching his head at the moment.

                        I don't see how you expect Thompson and Curry to stay HOT ENOUGH to win 4 games.

                        Toronto already has plans to stop Curry and Thompson.... we all know you can't shut them down.... but if you wear them out... how else can G.S. score? Green? He already had is best series... Toronto has enough manpower to disrupt him.

                        G.S. only chance.... Durant has to come back. But will he?

                        Still trying to figure out why oddsmakers opened the series price at -330. Of course.... Bookmaker waited as long as they could to release their line.... and the only book that matters... is them.
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                        • BGS 9.5
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                          #47
                          Originally posted by 2daBank
                          Because he defers to KD is a big reason.

                          Who won it the 1st year before KD? I forget.
                          Iggy
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                          • thomorino
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                            #48
                            Originally posted by jtoler
                            I mentioned shooting percentages from what I can tell thats the only reason he didnt win it last year kd shot better and had a few more rebounds but kd is gonna miss prob at least 2 games and maybe more at 18-1 it looks like something you''d wanna have in your back pocket but obviously books are saying its just gonna be too hard with missing 2 or more games. here's a scenario though, if gs loses the first 2 games or even split the first 2 and kd comes back starting game 3 and they go on to win the finals and he's the main reason why then I can see him winning it. best scenario is if gs loses first 2 in toronto and everyone is kinda down on them kd comes back and they win, its a good ticket to have I agree morino Im gonna put a little something on it myself
                            Its not just shooting percentages, its also the perception that he's a bad defender. The NBA knows it will be short series if GS wins games 1 and 2,I expect Toronto to get calls, not rigged but i think they get calls.
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                            • TheMoneyShot
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                              #49
                              What blows my mind... you have a series price of G.S around -270 at most places....

                              G.S. would probably be -6.5 to -7 point favorites in Game 3 and Game 4.

                              I get Toronto as 4 home games....

                              But... it's like Vegas is baiting you in taking G.S. I mean.... you're getting them for... THE ENTIRE SERIES at -270.... including all of their home games. It's like a no brainer to take G.S. SERIES
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                              • 2daBank
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                                #50
                                Originally posted by BGS 9.5
                                Iggy
                                Thanks. I knew it was some goofy role player! Lol
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                                • shocka1212
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                                  #51
                                  hmm
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                                  • lakerboy
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                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                    Toronto is the only team built to defend. G.S. went through teams that couldn't defend dikk.

                                    Durant is worthless.... Cousins is worthless....

                                    Kerr scratching his head at the moment.

                                    I don't see how you expect Thompson and Curry to stay HOT ENOUGH to win 4 games.

                                    Toronto already has plans to stop Curry and Thompson.... we all know you can't shut them down.... but if you wear them out... how else can G.S. score? Green? He already had is best series... Toronto has enough manpower to disrupt him.

                                    G.S. only chance.... Durant has to come back. But will he?

                                    Still trying to figure out why oddsmakers opened the series price at -330. Of course.... Bookmaker waited as long as they could to release their line.... and the only book that matters... is them.
                                    We are on the same wavelength. Tor is going to give them a hell of a series.
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                                    • jjgold
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                                      #53
                                      trap series
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                                      • JIBBBY
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                                        #54
                                        Leonard MVP.. I'm not seeing any of these future MVP props on any books right now.. I'd try Leonard if the odds were fat..
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                                        • lakerboy
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                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                          Leonard MVP.. I'm not seeing any of these future MVP props on any books right now.. I'd try Leonard if the odds were fat..
                                          +260
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                                          • leetreaper
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                                            #56
                                            Great odds Laker, pound city.
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                                            • JIBBBY
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                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by lakerboy
                                              +260
                                              What book I'm not seeing it on Dimes or anything.. Might be worth a stab at +260.. I was thinking +400 myself though..
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                                              • pavyracer
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                                                #58
                                                The value is in fading morino's pick. This is money in the bank.
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                                                • firedawg
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                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                  The value is in fading morino's pick. This is money in the bank.
                                                  This
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                                                  • rm18
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                                                    #60
                                                    Silly to bet Leonard at +260 when series is +250 very small chance the could be MVP in loss I guess but just take the series.
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                                                    • thomorino
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                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                      The value is in fading morino's pick. This is money in the bank.
                                                      Originally posted by firedawg

                                                      This
                                                      Fuk off
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                                                      • jjgold
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                                                        #62
                                                        The guy has not played in over a month, good chance he is out all series

                                                        Morino I will toss you over a table pal and then buy you 1 beer
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                                                        • thomorino
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                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by jjgold
                                                          The guy has not played in over a month, good chance he is out all series

                                                          Morino I will toss you over a table pal and then buy you 1 beer
                                                          Fuk off
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                                                          • TheMoneyShot
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                                                            #64
                                                            How do you have value in something.... when it's a guaranteed loss?
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                                                            • firedawg
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                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                                              How do you have value in something.... when it's a guaranteed loss?
                                                              Morino Math
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                                                              • thomorino
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                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                                                How do you have value in something.... when it's a guaranteed loss?
                                                                Originally posted by firedawg

                                                                Morino Math
                                                                Fuk off
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                                                                • BGS 9.5
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  BOL The Morono on your wager
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                                                                  • thomorino
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by BGS 9.5
                                                                    BOL The Morono on your wager
                                                                    Fuk off
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                                                                    • firedawg
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      This fools act is up
                                                                      Get lost you fake ass dumb fukkk
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                                                                      • thomorino
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                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by firedawg
                                                                        This fools act is up
                                                                        Get lost you fake ass dumb fukkk
                                                                        Fuk off
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