I expect 116 plus lost - Pay the juice fellas !!!
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ikid2groove415SBR Posting Legend
- 01-08-18
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#1———Baltimore Orioles will be giving out free money Again in 2019!!!Tags: None -
MickeyManSBR Hall of Famer
- 10-20-09
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#2Welcome back my illiterate friend.
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allabout the $$$SBR Hall of Famer
- 04-17-10
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#3and the 55 they win where the fave is -200 most of the time will even it all out.Originally posted by ikid2groove415I expect 116 plus lost - Pay the juice fellas !!!
yankees were -350-400 today they have to win 1 of those games and it will happen you need 3 or 4 wins to make up the lossComment -
eaglesfan371SBR MVP
- 01-08-19
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#4Favs will likely be overjuiced. For a profitable following of a team, you want to find a team predicted to make the offseason, that you think will never make it and fade them. Or a team that is predicted to do awful that you think will do great.Comment -
KVBSBR Aristocracy
- 05-29-14
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#5Last year, I have Balty at 47-115 and if you bet the same unit on them every game you would have lost more than 50 units, depending on the line, and show an ROI in the low -30%
What about the fade?
If you had gone against Balty every game last year betting the same unit, you would be up about 30 units with close to 19% ROI.
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2daBankSBR Aristocracy- 01-26-09
- 88966
#6They thought of even worse this year than they were at least the beginning of last year as you could see with today’s line. It be way too pricey for me to attempt fading them.Originally posted by KVBLast year, I have Balty at 47-115 and if you bet the same unit on them every game you would have lost more than 50 units, depending on the line, and show an ROI in the low -30%
What about the fade?
If you had gone against Balty every game last year betting the same unit, you would be up about 30 units with close to 19% ROI.
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TommieGunshotSBR MVP
- 03-27-12
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#7Bet them under 59.5 and 59.Comment -
krk1030SBR Posting Legend
- 08-13-08
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#8Go run line against them.Comment -
juicernameSBR Hall of Famer
- 10-14-15
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#9Fade was indeed very profitably last year. You would think the books would adapt to how awfult they are this season though.
ROI: -31.9% / +17.1%on / against:
-$5,394 / +$4,707Comment -
Fred The HammerSBR Posting Legend
- 08-13-13
- 11724
#10Atleast on the road. I'm not a huge RL player anyway...but def not when they get 27 outs to your 24.Originally posted by krk1030Go run line against them.Comment -
2daBankSBR Aristocracy- 01-26-09
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#11You can pretty much be assured if they have similarly terrible record it won’t be nearly as profitable.Originally posted by juicernameFade was indeed very profitably last year. You would think the books would adapt to how awfult they are this season though.
ROI: -31.9% / +17.1%on / against:
-$5,394 / +$4,707Comment -
sweethookSBR Posting Legend
- 11-21-07
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#12love it , gl sir.
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Jeff_BlackSBR MVP
- 04-04-15
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#13I've been tempted to bet these ones like against the Yankees overs when they are 8.5 like they were the other day but wouldn't mind seeing how some of these guys go.
I remember Bundy had an ok start last year and got some good value out of him at times at ML and RL.Comment -
beavis13SBR MVP
- 06-18-14
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#14Just parlay them and whoever is playing the Giants every time.Comment -
KVBSBR Aristocracy
- 05-29-14
- 74866
#15Originally posted by krk1030Go run line against them.In 2018 I have Balty going 68-94 against the runline and betting the same unit on them each game would have left you down about -27.5 units, about -17% ROI, depending on the line.Originally posted by Fred The HammerAtleast on the road. I'm not a huge RL player anyway...but def not when they get 27 outs to your 24.
Betting the same unit on each fade of that would have netted about +22 units with about 13.5% ROI.
Fading the runline when Balty was on the road was responsible for +19 of the +22 units; about 23% ROI and a 49-32 record.
Fading the Balty run line at home still went 45-36, about +3 units and about 4% ROI.
In my opinion, if Balty is even close to as bad this year as they were last year, there should still be profit, although eroded, left in both ML and RL fades.
I think it can be mitigated by making sure the line is bought early but even that effect will erode as the season progresses.
But if Balty goes on a win streak or two, along with the market adjusting, the profit on the fade could disappear quick.
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KVBSBR Aristocracy
- 05-29-14
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#16Giants were crazy last year.Originally posted by beavis13Just parlay them and whoever is playing the Giants every time.
If you had bet the same unit on the moneyline every game you would have been up nearly +8 units on August 31st.
By September 30th, you would have been down more the -7 units.
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KVBSBR Aristocracy
- 05-29-14
- 74866
#17lol...
Originally posted by KVBContrarian Fund...
Oh boy, here we go, Balty going to suck the like out of the Fund...915 30-Mar BAL +306
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ikid2groove415SBR Posting Legend
- 01-08-18
- 11981
#18Run line boys - every dam game -1.5Comment -
slayer14SBR Posting Legend
- 08-12-13
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#19Yanks gonna lose here?Comment -
2daBankSBR Aristocracy- 01-26-09
- 88966
#20And just like that gonna have big hole to dig out of.Comment -
Fred The HammerSBR Posting Legend
- 08-13-13
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#21Originally posted by KVBlol...

+306 is a bad line. If you play huge dogs then get it 5 min before the 1st pitch after Joe Square pounds the "sure thing". I see +325 to +335Comment -
krk1030SBR Posting Legend
- 08-13-08
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#22Yankeees were on top of the world for a day and a half.
Nice easy win looked good.
Sox get crushed.
Sox getting crushed again....then they come back and win and the Yankees get embarrassed by Baltimore.
Same old bums.Comment -
krk1030SBR Posting Legend
- 08-13-08
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#23Here come the Yankees lolComment -
Chi_archieSBR Aristocracy
- 07-22-08
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#24thanks KVB
GameDate Date Placed Sport Description Risk/Win Ticket#:4123975
Mar 30 01:05 PMMar 30 12:56 PM MLB STRAIGHT BET
[915] BAL +304
( ACTION )60.00 / 182.40 Ticket#:4123976
Mar 30 01:05 PMMar 30 12:56 PM MLB STRAIGHT BET
[915] BAL +1½+148
( N KARNS -R / J PAXTON -L )70.00 / 103.60 Comment -
5mike5SBR Aristocracy
- 09-21-11
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#25took out about 90% of the survivor pool contest tooComment -
5mike5SBR Aristocracy
- 09-21-11
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#26Nice job ArchieOriginally posted by Chi_archiethanks KVB
GameDate Date Placed Sport Description Risk/Win Ticket#:4123975
Mar 30 01:05 PMMar 30 12:56 PM MLB STRAIGHT BET
[915] BAL +304
( ACTION )60.00 / 182.40 Ticket#:4123976
Mar 30 01:05 PMMar 30 12:56 PM MLB STRAIGHT BET
[915] BAL +1½+148
( N KARNS -R / J PAXTON -L )70.00 / 103.60
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jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
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#27Never make money chasing favoritesComment -
Fred The HammerSBR Posting Legend
- 08-13-13
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#28Yep. Once in a while I'll play -175 or something, but its usually late in the year when its a decent pitcher/team against someone thats just mailing it in.Originally posted by jjgoldNever make money chasing favoritesComment -
KVBSBR Aristocracy
- 05-29-14
- 74866
#29Yeah started buying at +306 and +318 and finished the position out with some 330's. The line jumped right after I started buying.Originally posted by Fred The Hammer+306 is a bad line. If you play huge dogs then get it 5 min before the 1st pitch after Joe Square pounds the "sure thing". I see +325 to +335
Didn't mid buying into the pressure as I was happy with anything better than +300.Comment -
KVBSBR Aristocracy
- 05-29-14
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#30Originally posted by Chi_archiethanks KVB
GameDate Date Placed Sport Description Risk/Win Ticket#:4123975
Mar 30 01:05 PMMar 30 12:56 PM MLB STRAIGHT BET
[915] BAL +304
( ACTION )60.00 / 182.40 Ticket#:4123976
Mar 30 01:05 PMMar 30 12:56 PM MLB STRAIGHT BET
[915] BAL +1½+148
( N KARNS -R / J PAXTON -L )70.00 / 103.60
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2daBankSBR Aristocracy- 01-26-09
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#31There just no point in it for me. I’m pretty confident I can bang out the percentage it takes to do well w dogs and totals, I know I can’t hit at a clip high enough to win with favs priced above -140.Originally posted by Fred The HammerYep. Once in a while I'll play -175 or something, but its usually late in the year when its a decent pitcher/team against someone thats just mailing it in.Comment -
KVBSBR Aristocracy
- 05-29-14
- 74866
#32Talked all this shit about fading Balty on ML and RL then turned around and bought the +300.
The Contrarian Fund is full of surprises.
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BigDofBASBR Posting Legend
- 09-30-09
- 19313
#33I don’t shy away from laying juice every once in a while. You don’t want to make a living playing every -175 line but every now and then it’s ok.Originally posted by Fred The HammerYep. Once in a while I'll play -175 or something, but its usually late in the year when its a decent pitcher/team against someone thats just mailing it in.
Faves win a lot too.
It seems trendy around here to play a lot of dogs in baseball. I like it, but you have to be able to got faves too.
I will say if you’re losing and need a winner, going larger than normal on a -175 play when you need it never seems to work out. I usually make these plays when I’m in a rhythm and on a good streak.Comment -
krk1030SBR Posting Legend
- 08-13-08
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#34Stayed away today cause of the opener bullshit.
For some reason always gives the yankees problems..at least with Tampa it did.Comment -
ikid2groove415SBR Posting Legend
- 01-08-18
- 11981
#35Baltimore wasn’t Going 0-162 -Comment
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