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  • ikid2groove415
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-08-18
    • 11981

    #71
    Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
    Is Pujols a good signing?
    A Rod w Rangers?
    Carl Crawford, Ryan Howard, etc...

    Long term deals are bad for business

    In football, because of the cap figure, the only position that matters is QB. Everyone else is worthless and can be cut end of each season. NFL players are used up after 5 years, so anyone thing they are going to get a great deal beyond that rookie contract better be a QB or expect to be cut 1 or 2 years into said contract because they bury their team

    Holding out for $$$ in NFL is career suicide, the team and the shield come first
    A-rod sells tickets - it’s more then just winning - of course 10 year contracts doesn’t favor the team - Harper is still young enough - I think it can work - he’s he number 1 draw in baseball- you can market him and sell tickets like trout - even if the team isn’t winning - now going 2 football - QB is the most important position- but you need a great O-line and d-line - you can not win without those components- it’s not a RB position- that isn’t value in today’s nfl
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    • LT Profits
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 10-27-06
      • 90963

      #72
      Odds up at BOL


      Who will sign Bryce Harper Next?
      08:00 PM 55701 Dodgers +750
      55704 Phillies +200
      55707 Nationals +900
      55708 Giants +175
      55709 Padres +250
      Tuesday, Feb 12, 2019
      Manny Machado
      Manny Machado Team Game 1 2019 Season
      08:30 PM 65401 Yankees +200
      65403 Phillies +750
      65406 Padres +600
      65407 White Sox -150
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      • Ebumdude
        SBR MVP
        • 11-15-12
        • 2189

        #73
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        • USCPHILLYGUY
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 12-15-12
          • 21748

          #74
          Originally posted by ikid2groove415
          A-rod sells tickets - it’s more then just winning - of course 10 year contracts doesn’t favor the team - Harper is still young enough - I think it can work - he’s he number 1 draw in baseball- you can market him and sell tickets like trout - even if the team isn’t winning - now going 2 football - QB is the most important position- but you need a great O-line and d-line - you can not win without those components- it’s not a RB position- that isn’t value in today’s nfl
          In 2014 philly signed a 25 year 5 billion dollar deal with Comcast SportsNet for the rights to televise their games. Last year they drew over 2 million fans with only a 93 mil payroll. In the 2 years prior they’ve drew 1.9 mil with a payroll less than 85 mil. Money in not a issue with this team.
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          • ikid2groove415
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 01-08-18
            • 11981

            #75
            Originally posted by USCPHILLYGUY
            In 2014 philly signed a 25 year 5 billion dollar deal with Comcast SportsNet for the rights to televise their games. Last year they drew over 2 million fans with only a 93 mil payroll. In the 2 years prior they’ve drew 1.9 mil with a payroll less than 85 mil. Money in not a issue with this team.
            And Harper would sell more tickets for 5-6 years
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            • ikid2groove415
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 01-08-18
              • 11981

              #76
              Important 2 Harper 1.Money 2.Location 3.contender
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              • MinnesotaFats
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 12-18-10
                • 14758

                #77
                Originally posted by ikid2groove415
                And Harper would sell more tickets for 5-6 years
                ...and what happens if we go i to a recession in 3 years and you have a 5 year spell of sub 1 million attending?
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                • ans61201
                  SBR MVP
                  • 10-11-15
                  • 3661

                  #78
                  New leader in the clubhouse, Giants are betting favs to sign him
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                  • MinnesotaFats
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 12-18-10
                    • 14758

                    #79
                    ARod sells tix lol

                    Evidently not enough to keep Rangers from losing money
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                    • USCPHILLYGUY
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 12-15-12
                      • 21748

                      #80
                      Originally posted by ans61201
                      New leader in the clubhouse, Giants are betting favs to sign him
                      I’d be shocked. Think his agent took the meeting to put the screws on philly as they’ve been very vocal on signing one of the big 2

                      i don’t think we see the days of 3 mil in attendance anymore. But even getting to 2.5 mil is only 6-7k more fans a night.
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                      • ikid2groove415
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 01-08-18
                        • 11981

                        #81
                        Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                        ...and what happens if we go i to a recession in 3 years and you have a 5 year spell of sub 1 million attending?
                        You should know the way joe mauer contract turn out- a-rod wasn’t selling tickets? When he was juice up hitting all those homeruns ...
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                        • MinnesotaFats
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 12-18-10
                          • 14758

                          #82
                          Originally posted by ikid2groove415
                          You should know the way joe mauer contract turn out- a-rod wasn’t selling tickets? When he was juice up hitting all those homeruns ...
                          OMG exactly!

                          I was soooo f'king pissed out that deal, and I actually played against Jake and Billy Mauer.

                          Joe never had that skillset, it was some hidden juice, anavar, caradine or something...one great year, in a contract year, then a decade of mediocre performance and Twins attendance didn't go up beyond the 1st 2 years of that new stadium.

                          Here's another question, did ARod improve or tarnish the Yankee image/ brand? Remember, he wrecked Texas w the contract, then NYY take it on, and in the end they're trying to void it for illegal HGH usage. Dud that make NYY better as a brand? No, of course not. Did NYY sell more tix in those years than the 95-02 years? No, of course not. Did they win more World Series? No, of course not.

                          These ling term deals hamstrung so many teams in the p a st that owners & gms are smart now.

                          Plus, w Harper... his .250 avg, 30 hrs, 90 rbi. Is that worth $30mm/ yr or could you platoon 2 guys (I'll just throw out 2 Twins, Jake Cave & Miguel Sano (he needs to go to RF because he is too fat for 3rd base) you'd get 26 hr, 35 2b, 90 rbi and all that for under $1.3mm) and use the savings to buy a killer bullpen that can touch the ball for 4 innings EVERY night!

                          That's how you win

                          5 innings from starter, killer bullpen
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                          • Ebumdude
                            SBR MVP
                            • 11-15-12
                            • 2189

                            #83
                            Harper’s offer with the Nationals has officially expired. Cross them off the list.
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                            • ikid2groove415
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 01-08-18
                              • 11981

                              #84
                              Hope he lands with the giants
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                              • 209 Life
                                SBR MVP
                                • 09-15-18
                                • 3146

                                #85
                                SF offered short term deal but Harper only wants long term deal
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                                • Ebumdude
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 11-15-12
                                  • 2189

                                  #86
                                  Rumors that a decision has been made, however nobody knows what it is...

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                                  • sweethook
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 11-21-07
                                    • 12667

                                    #87
                                    a new las vegas team
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                                    • eidolon
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 01-02-08
                                      • 9531

                                      #88
                                      Giants fan here. I hope we don't get him.

                                      67 at bats at AT&T park.
                                      Hitting .164, and only 2 homeruns during that time. Shit stats. No thanks.
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                                      • cincinnatikid513
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 11-23-17
                                        • 45360

                                        #89
                                        i'm 90 pct sure bryce harper is signing with the philadelphia phillies, who will offer the most money
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                                        • USCPHILLYGUY
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 12-15-12
                                          • 21748

                                          #90
                                          He signed with Vegas Hockey team. Congrats



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                                          • slayer14
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 08-12-13
                                            • 22022

                                            #91
                                            He will go down as a wasted talent and a misunderstood guy
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                                            • Ebumdude
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 11-15-12
                                              • 2189

                                              #92
                                              Well Gents, that was fun while it lasted.

                                              Now the Phillies are stuck with a deal that will flop in their faces.
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                                              • beansy512
                                                SBR Rookie
                                                • 12-29-18
                                                • 22

                                                #93
                                                I might be new on here lbut it pays to know a girlbtharcworks forvthe phillies the money. From Philly and the word around here is they are set to up there offer to an amount no one would say no to. Plus him hitting in the Philles park must feel like hitting in a little league field.Plus with the trade they just made if he signs they will add anonther Starter gotta be the favorites out of the National League[/QUOTE]
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                                                • beansy512
                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                  • 12-29-18
                                                  • 22

                                                  #94
                                                  After we win it all they sign. Trout who is going to stop a 3.hitter trout 4. Harpers. 5. Hoskins and not to forget the best catcher in baseball at the 2 spot

                                                  Now the Phillies are stuck with a deal that will flop in their faces.[/QUOTE]
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                                                  • beansy512
                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                    • 12-29-18
                                                    • 22

                                                    #95
                                                    All San Francisco did was make Harper a little more money. But the phillies have it wait for two years our 3 4 5 hitters are Harper trout and hoskins. Look out league
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                                                    • bobbywaves
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 05-06-08
                                                      • 13280

                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by bobbywaves
                                                      Those bets are losers, it's common knowledge Harper signs with the Fightin Phills.
                                                      At least someone is sharp on this forum.
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