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  • Cuse0323
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    • 12-09-09
    • 30169

    #36
    Only by the bastards at Coinbase that make it impossible to get into your account when you don’t have the same number and forget your password. Only had a few bucks in there but it would have been around $100 when I wanted to get it out. Really could have used it to go on a run. Cocksmokes.
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    • raiders72001
      Senior Member
      • 08-10-05
      • 11127

      #37
      For those that had money stolen, what bitcoin address was it sent to? I want to look at the history of that address.
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      • ThaWoj
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 03-09-10
        • 6761

        #38
        1)Can someone (like a rogue nitro employee) still steal if you have 2fa enabled?

        2)I read about the malware thing this morning. if I log into block chain or whatever and use a different address every time, how am I supposed to know the malware didnt already change my address? It can't actually change the address in real time, like as you open the page/app and go to copy the address, can it?
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        • KiDBaZkiT
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 10-20-09
          • 14962

          #39
          Originally posted by Big Bear
          I am a little gun shy but will try this again not from a cell phone ever again though

          and screw that last wallet I had.

          What middle man wallet do yall recommend to pair with coinbase?
          If u have malware on your phone either you put it on there or gave it access to your phone. Either way, be careful what u do on your phone.
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          • funnyb25
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            • 07-09-09
            • 39663

            #40
            I hear Raiders72001 is a bitcoin master
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            • Optional
              Administrator
              • 06-10-10
              • 61527

              #41
              Originally posted by Big Bear
              I am a little gun shy but will try this again not from a cell phone ever again though

              and screw that last wallet I had.

              What middle man wallet do yall recommend to pair with coinbase?
              Blockchain.com/wallet is easiest and most popular.

              It has both a web and phone interface to the same wallet account.


              I like the Electrum.org desktop wallet better than anything else personally, but that is because it has the most and most advanced features. Most of which no bettor will use.



              What sort of phone do you have that got infected with this virus? I thought this was still a PC only problem mostly.
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              • Optional
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                • 06-10-10
                • 61527

                #42
                Originally posted by ThaWoj
                how am I supposed to know the malware didnt already change my address?
                AFAIK the virus changes the address when it sees it enter the devices clipboard/temporary memory area.


                Very easy to protect yourself. Whenever you copy a bitcoin address, make a mental note of the last 3 or 4 characters, and after you paste make sure those characters match.

                The Trojan inserted address will be totally different. Just remembering the last character to double check will be enough 99% of the time.
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                • QuantumLeap
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                  • 08-22-08
                  • 6878

                  #43
                  Originally posted by Optional
                  Blockchain.com/wallet is easiest and most popular.

                  It has both a web and phone interface to the same wallet account.


                  I like the Electrum.org desktop wallet better than anything else personally, but that is because it has the most and most advanced features. Most of which no bettor will use.



                  What sort of phone do you have that got infected with this virus? I thought this was still a PC only problem mostly.
                  I use the Electrum wallet as well.
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                  • QuantumLeap
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                    • 08-22-08
                    • 6878

                    #44
                    Originally posted by Optional
                    AFAIK the virus changes the address when it sees it enter the devices clipboard/temporary memory area.


                    Very easy to protect yourself. Whenever you copy a bitcoin address, make a mental note of the last 3 or 4 characters, and after you paste make sure those characters match.

                    The Trojan inserted address will be totally different. Just remembering the last character to double check will be enough 99% of the time.
                    Before transferring any crypto I also like to check the first 4 letters as well, just in case.
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                    • Optional
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                      • 06-10-10
                      • 61527

                      #45
                      Originally posted by QuantumLeap

                      Before transferring any crypto I also like to check the first 4 letters as well, just in case.
                      Checking more is better. But its far more likely the first few characters will not be unique than the last few. Because the beginning of the string can possibly match others, and will always contain the same first character as the fake account number, a 1 or a 3, and the end of the string is a checksum field which will be unique like 1 in a billion times.

                      Not a biggie, but be careful not to see the matching first char and miss the next couple are different.
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                      • JoeCool20
                        SBR MVP
                        • 05-31-18
                        • 4440

                        #46
                        Originally posted by Optional
                        AFAIK the virus changes the address when it sees it enter the devices clipboard/temporary memory area.


                        Very easy to protect yourself. Whenever you copy a bitcoin address, make a mental note of the last 3 or 4 characters, and after you paste make sure those characters match.

                        The Trojan inserted address will be totally different. Just remembering the last character to double check will be enough 99% of the time.
                        Originally posted by QuantumLeap
                        Before transferring any crypto I also like to check the first 4 letters as well, just in case.




                        I have a pretty good memory. I'm checking the first 5 or 10 AND the last 5 or 10!!


                        Ain't no way I'm hitting enter until I've looked & verified it OVER AND OVER!
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                        • horja1
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                          • 01-13-11
                          • 5646

                          #47
                          Originally posted by Optional
                          I always double check the last few characters are the same after pasting.
                          This
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                          • Big Bear
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 11-01-11
                            • 43253

                            #48
                            Originally posted by Optional
                            Blockchain.com/wallet is easiest and most popular.

                            It has both a web and phone interface to the same wallet account.


                            I like the Electrum.org desktop wallet better than anything else personally, but that is because it has the most and most advanced features. Most of which no bettor will use.



                            What sort of phone do you have that got infected with this virus? I thought this was still a PC only problem mostly.
                            The iphone 5. I’ve had it a few years.

                            I went on coinbase from a desktop computer and saw where the coins were sent to a totally different address.
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                            • Big Bear
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 11-01-11
                              • 43253

                              #49
                              Originally posted by Frank Mills
                              Just invest in a Nano or Trezor
                              Thats the wallet to comes in a UB drive right? Does it work with an ipad?
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                              • PD77
                                SBR MVP
                                • 12-11-09
                                • 2380

                                #50
                                Originally posted by Big Bear
                                Thats the wallet to comes in a UB drive right? Does it work with an ipad?
                                The Ledger Nano X will work with the IPhone when it comes out inMarch April.
                                The most advanced Bluetooth-enabled Hardware Wallet to securely manage all your crypto assets. Mobile-first Ledger for convenient on-the-go use
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                                • Big Bear
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 11-01-11
                                  • 43253

                                  #51
                                  Thanks. Looks awesome.

                                  so lets say I order the ledger nano s.. so basically i can insert that into an ipad and then that becomes my wallet that I can transfer to from coinbase?

                                  also when I got my funds I was not happy so I deleted my coinbase app. I dont remember my password or anything is that a problem or can i just create a new account?
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                                  • Optional
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                                    • 06-10-10
                                    • 61527

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by Big Bear
                                    also when I got my funds I was not happy so I deleted my coinbase app. I dont remember my password or anything is that a problem or can i just create a new account?
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                                    • ans61201
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 10-11-15
                                      • 3661

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by Big Bear
                                      Thanks. Looks awesome.

                                      so lets say I order the ledger nano s.. so basically i can insert that into an ipad and then that becomes my wallet that I can transfer to from coinbase?

                                      also when I got my funds I was not happy so I deleted my coinbase app. I dont remember my password or anything is that a problem or can i just create a new account?
                                      Do not attempt to create a new account they will freeze it all and either make you jump through hoops to regain access or you’ll lose it forever if they don’t side with you in a dispute
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                                      • PD77
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 12-11-09
                                        • 2380

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by Big Bear
                                        Thanks. Looks awesome.

                                        so lets say I order the ledger nano s.. so basically i can insert that into an ipad and then that becomes my wallet that I can transfer to from coinbase?

                                        also when I got my funds I was not happy so I deleted my coinbase app. I dont remember my password or anything is that a problem or can i just create a new account?
                                        The Nano S does not work with an iPad if you use Ledgers software, Ledger Live. There may be other software you can use that is compatible with the iPad but that’s another story. The Nano X will work through Bluetooth once it is released. It worth the wait, the Nano X is way more powerful than the S. I have the S and for me it’s more useful as cold storage.
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                                        • QuantumLeap
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 08-22-08
                                          • 6878

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by raiders72001
                                          For those that had money stolen, what bitcoin address was it sent to? I want to look at the history of that address.
                                          Here you go Raiders:

                                          1H8e7NuSGHeZwpoqPfD6wA2Sy7EyZExLzo
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                                          • Optional
                                            Administrator
                                            • 06-10-10
                                            • 61527

                                            #56
                                            Weird transaction history




                                            Track em down Raiders!
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                                            • QuantumLeap
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 08-22-08
                                              • 6878

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by Optional
                                              Weird transaction history




                                              Track em down Raiders!
                                              Looks like a series of multiple small transactions. Maybe meant to put up a smoke screen of some sort in order to prevent investigation into all transactions done by that address?
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                                              • Optional
                                                Administrator
                                                • 06-10-10
                                                • 61527

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by QuantumLeap

                                                Looks like a series of multiple small transactions. Maybe meant to put up a smoke screen of some sort in order to prevent investigation into all transactions done by that address?
                                                I can't think of a logical explanation. Hopefully Raiders will know what it means or track down where those 21 cents came from originally came from and work it out.
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                                                • QuantumLeap
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 08-22-08
                                                  • 6878

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by Optional
                                                  I can't think of a logical explanation. Hopefully Raiders will know what it means or track down where those 21 cents came from originally came from and work it out.
                                                  I would think his time would be better spent finding out where the larger amount went and who stole my bitcoin.
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                                                  • funnyb25
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 07-09-09
                                                    • 39663

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by QuantumLeap
                                                    I would think his time would be better spent finding out where the larger amount went and who stole my bitcoin.
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                                                    • Optional
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                                                      • 06-10-10
                                                      • 61527

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by QuantumLeap

                                                      I would think his time would be better spent finding out where the larger amount went and who stole my bitcoin.
                                                      I was thinking tracing those 21 cent transactions backwards might be more fruitful than trying to trace where it went forward, in trying to ID who took your bitcoin. But that was just a brain fart anyway. I don't know.
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                                                      • pilebuck13
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 05-15-15
                                                        • 17918

                                                        #62
                                                        Lol 2 method verification sent to mobile....like bookmaker does, nitro does not have this? And also if I’m sending a good amount of money I’m sorry but I write my transfer address down and then copy paste and check every number again to verify because once you hit send it’s fukin gone no point not to take those extra 5 minutes when there are thousands of dollars involved
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                                                        • funnyb25
                                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                          • 07-09-09
                                                          • 39663

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by pilebuck13
                                                          Lol 2 method verification sent to mobile....like bookmaker does, nitro does not have this? And also if I’m sending a good amount of money I’m sorry but I write my transfer address down and then copy paste and check every number again to verify because once you hit send it’s fukin gone no point not to take those extra 5 minutes when there are thousands of dollars involved
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                                                          • QuantumLeap
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 08-22-08
                                                            • 6878

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by pilebuck13
                                                            Lol 2 method verification sent to mobile....like bookmaker does, nitro does not have this? And also if I’m sending a good amount of money I’m sorry but I write my transfer address down and then copy paste and check every number again to verify because once you hit send it’s fukin gone no point not to take those extra 5 minutes when there are thousands of dollars involved
                                                            Nitrogen does have this and I blame myself for not having it on my account when I knew better. I had it on originally but it required 2FA every time I logged in to their web site and I was betting on my mobile phone a lot of the time so I would have to switch back and forth between my messenger app and the browser every time I logged in so I had it turned off.

                                                            I thought if someone from Nitrogen did steal my bitcoin they would own up to it but they made up a bunch of lies and wouldn't take responsibility. They said it was transferred to the same IP that I had used previously. The problem is that I hadn't used that IP in months (via VPN). It would be near impossible to use the same IP again so Nitrogen was lying when they said that. Others on reddit.com have said they've had bitcoin stolen from Nitrogen as well.

                                                            This was just a few hundred dollars at the time. Nothing I couldn't afford to lose. In fact, I probably would have lost it betting anyway.
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                                                            • cankid
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 08-22-08
                                                              • 7220

                                                              #65
                                                              Well that blows sorry for the bad experience but you dont know if you would have lost it or not so sucks a sportsbook is stealing from their players
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                                                              • Optional
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                                                                • 06-10-10
                                                                • 61527

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by QuantumLeap

                                                                Nitrogen does have this and I blame myself for not having it on my account when I knew better. I had it on originally but it required 2FA every time I logged in to their web site and I was betting on my mobile phone a lot of the time so I would have to switch back and forth between my messenger app and the browser every time I logged in so I had it turned off.

                                                                I thought if someone from Nitrogen did steal my bitcoin they would own up to it but they made up a bunch of lies and wouldn't take responsibility. They said it was transferred to the same IP that I had used previously. The problem is that I hadn't used that IP in months (via VPN). It would be near impossible to use the same IP again so Nitrogen was lying when they said that. Others on reddit.com have said they've had bitcoin stolen from Nitrogen as well.

                                                                This was just a few hundred dollars at the time. Nothing I couldn't afford to lose. In fact, I probably would have lost it betting anyway.
                                                                If you only read it on Reddit and no-where else. It's likely just shills or trolls talking rubbish. That site is over run with paid people working an agenda.

                                                                Are you claiming Nitrogen have stolen off you themselves now? If it is just based on anything said on Reddit, I'd take a step back and re-think that for myself.


                                                                Anyone else know first hand of Nitrogen stealing off people?
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                                                                • bettingman6
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 12-21-18
                                                                  • 626

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by reigle9
                                                                  no

                                                                  that doesn't happen to normal people

                                                                  also never got scammed by a sportsbook or slipped in water at wal-mart

                                                                  fukkin crazy how some people just have bad luck

                                                                  Normal people don’t use bitcoin in the first place. So they don’t have to worry about getting bitcoin stolen.

                                                                  And really there’s no reason to care if your bitcoin gets stolen. Bitcoin will probably be worth less than Beanie Babies (the bitcoin of 20 years ago) within 2 years. I mean, Beanie Babies actually have a small amount of intrinsic value-albeit for children under the age of 7. Bitcoin however has no intrinsic value for any person of any age.
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                                                                  • Optional
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                                                                    • 06-10-10
                                                                    • 61527

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by bettingman6
                                                                    Bitcoin however has no intrinsic value for any person of any age.
                                                                    Do you only accept paper money based on it's intrinsic value? So about 50 cents for each $100 bill?
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                                                                    • bettingman6
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 12-21-18
                                                                      • 626

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by Optional
                                                                      Do you only accept paper money based on it's intrinsic value? So about 50 cents for each $100 bill?
                                                                      Paper money is issued is issued by the government. Bitcoin is issued by the bitcoin company. See the difference.

                                                                      I mean, if I were to take a piece of paper and write $3,000 on it, would you believe the paper is worth $3,000? What if I picked up a rock from the ground and said the rock was a cryptocurrency worth $3,000? It really isn’t that much different than believing bitcoin is worth $3,000.
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                                                                      • Optional
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                                                                        • 06-10-10
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                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by bettingman6

                                                                        Paper money is issued is issued by the government. Bitcoin is issued by the bitcoin company. See the difference.

                                                                        I mean, if I were to take a piece of paper and write $3,000 on it, would you believe the paper is worth $3,000? What if I picked up a rock from the ground and said the rock was a cryptocurrency worth $3,000? It really isn’t that much different than believing bitcoin is worth $3,000.
                                                                        Your argument was no intrinsic value.

                                                                        Explain the intrinsic value of that paper note if you can?


                                                                        But now you have moved onto who "issues" the instrument. Which is a bad place for your argument.

                                                                        The reserve can print as many new notes as it likes. No limit. Which technically means their money is worthless based on normal fundamentals.

                                                                        The only reason it isn't worthless is because we trust the Govt/Reserve to not just print more and more money, like has happened in countries like Zimbabwe and Venezuela in recent years.


                                                                        But with Bitcoin that cannot happen. There is a known and finite supply. It's such a massively better money supply system than FIAT currency that's its pretty much inevitable that governments will drop their reserve banks money printing power in favor of a crypto style system one day.
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