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  • 2daBank
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 01-26-09
    • 88966

    #526
    Bradly/ga southern under 154.5.. clash of styles here. We often on southern overs cause they love to push the pace, in fact that why I believe we have some nice value in this total. It is incredibly rare a up tempo team is able to dictate pace to Bradley or many other of the valley teams for that matter. In fact these 2 hooked up last year and the game was kept to far fewer possessions than typical southern games. Southern has been going even faster this season but again I don’t expect Bradley to want any part of that. In that game Bradley held southern to only .80 points per possession and Bradley was only a tic better at .87. All that tells us is we have plenty of room for the pace to be closer to southern liking and still be coming in under the number. I really think this game played close, I came up w 72-70 which obviously way under this number, as I said in open southern pace and scores they been involved in I believe giving us nice value here.
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    • jjgold
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-20-05
      • 388179

      #527
      Still a very strong season
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      • 2daBank
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 01-26-09
        • 88966

        #528
        Originally posted by jjgold
        Still a very strong season
        I will be good today coach. No excuses but I did lot of partying over weekend, even tried ghb like 3am Sunday morning when I got home, then again around 9am Monday!! Fukked me up the second time I took lot more (I coulda been date raped! Lol) woke up from that like 1 o’clock and tried capping games and that what we got. Feeling right as rain now, got some sleep and getting some coffee in me.
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        • jjgold
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 07-20-05
          • 388179

          #529
          Cut out partying
          Cut out cokcut out weed
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          • pilebuck13
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 05-15-15
            • 17918

            #530
            What’s with the Xavier mizz line? Xavier seems like a slam dunk.....east Carolina char total over 131 kinda enticing...definitely like the Bradley under...also like morhead st Wright st over 143....also liked the usf Florida international over just wish I would have snagged it at 162.5 just my leans anyhow
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            • 2daBank
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 01-26-09
              • 88966

              #531
              Originally posted by jjgold
              Cut out partying
              Cut out cokcut out weed
              Don’t smoke weed coach. Gotta let off a little steam from time to time and last weekend just happened to be one those times!! Of course it was since I was supposed to see PO on Monday, lmfao. My ass rescheduled that visit like any pro in the game would do!! When he piss text me on New Year’s Eve morning when I see him next banker be squeaky clean!!!
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              • KVB
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 05-29-14
                • 74817

                #532
                Originally posted by pilebuck13
                What’s with the Xavier mizz line? Xavier seems like a slam dunk...
                Pretty big move that direction too. I have Xavier winning by 9 and it seems like most are on it.

                The non predictive public gauge I make based on ratings and some popular info shows Misssouri winning by one. That gauge predicts the openers quite often, and it did today.

                Books taking money in on Xavier, the better play, but at least they moved the line a bit, virtually creating the steam.

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                • 2daBank
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 01-26-09
                  • 88966

                  #533
                  Originally posted by 2daBank
                  Bradly/ga southern under 154.5.. clash of styles here. We often on southern overs cause they love to push the pace, in fact that why I believe we have some nice value in this total. It is incredibly rare a up tempo team is able to dictate pace to Bradley or many other of the valley teams for that matter. In fact these 2 hooked up last year and the game was kept to far fewer possessions than typical southern games. Southern has been going even faster this season but again I don’t expect Bradley to want any part of that. In that game Bradley held southern to only .80 points per possession and Bradley was only a tic better at .87. All that tells us is we have plenty of room for the pace to be closer to southern liking and still be coming in under the number. I really think this game played close, I came up w 72-70 which obviously way under this number, as I said in open southern pace and scores they been involved in I believe giving us nice value here.
                  Cuse -3 -115... I been line watching this game like a Mfer waiting hoping bulls money come in and take this lower. Don’t get me wrong I’m a huge fan this buffalo team, we made some nice coin being on them early before everyone took notice (remeber when we had them beating wvu !) but this a tough matchup for them. Cuse length a real problem for them as is the zone cause bulls are easily enticed into settling for jumpers despite it not being their strength (43% of their shots from 3 despite only shooting 33%) last year cuse got them to fire only one fewer 3 than 2 in a game cuse won by 7.. cuse won that game by getting to the charity stripe and think they were earn their money there once again as they have guys who bulls really can’t defend without fouling inside.
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                  • DOM_Toretto
                    Restricted User
                    • 01-28-13
                    • 9035

                    #534
                    Originally posted by KVB
                    Pretty big move that direction too. I have Xavier winning by 9 and it seems like most are on it.

                    The non predictive public gauge I make based on ratings and some popular info shows Misssouri winning by one. That gauge predicts the openers quite often, and it did today.

                    Books taking money in on Xavier, the better play, but at least they moved the line a bit, virtually creating the steam.

                    Kenpom has Mizzou winning this SU. Xavier is terrible at defending the 3 and I like Mizzou to nail a ton of 3s at home off 10 days rest.
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                    • 2daBank
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 01-26-09
                      • 88966

                      #535
                      I’m not much of a buyer on X, don’t get me wrong I don’t like mizzou either but I think gonzo squad will make this a real grinder, X shooting 60% from inside the arc but that against lot of garbage that doesn’t have the interior defensive presence to slow them down, I think the tigers do, kinda shit the bed here as I was looking under if anything but value got zapped when I wasn’t looking. So it a pass for me, I think this game played in mid 60s so laying more than a basket not something I would do as I’d expect this one not decided till last minute.
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                      • 2daBank
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 01-26-09
                        • 88966

                        #536
                        Originally posted by DOM_Toretto
                        Kenpom has Mizzou winning this SU. Xavier is terrible at defending the 3 and I like Mizzou to nail a ton of 3s at home off 10 days rest.
                        If that line gets pushed up to like 4 think be lof of value on tigers. Kinda disagree w KP a little, I have x by a basket but def think it could go either way. I don’t think either team particularly good but at least tigers have beaten a few capable teams, X best win is Illinois and after that a huge drop off in teams they have beat.
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                        • frankieunits2685
                          SBR MVP
                          • 11-19-17
                          • 3575

                          #537
                          Wow, Mizzou moved to +2.5 currently.
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                          • 2daBank
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 01-26-09
                            • 88966

                            #538
                            More I look more i think tigers the right side but still a pass unless I can get a 3.5 or 4.
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                            • frankieunits2685
                              SBR MVP
                              • 11-19-17
                              • 3575

                              #539
                              Originally posted by DOM_Toretto
                              Kenpom has Mizzou winning this SU. Xavier is terrible at defending the 3 and I like Mizzou to nail a ton of 3s at home off 10 days rest.
                              you pay for KP?? or just use the public info as far as his rankings. i was just curious because i noticed a lot of sharps mentioning KP and trying to find out if its worth buying myself
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                              • DOM_Toretto
                                Restricted User
                                • 01-28-13
                                • 9035

                                #540
                                Originally posted by frankieunits2685
                                you pay for KP?? or just use the public info as far as his rankings. i was just curious because i noticed a lot of sharps mentioning KP and trying to find out if its worth buying myself
                                Just bought my first ever subscription last month. Had no idea how to use it at first but now I totally love it. Best $20 I’ve spent all year. $20 for 1 year... do it.
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                                • 2daBank
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 01-26-09
                                  • 88966

                                  #541
                                  Originally posted by frankieunits2685
                                  you pay for KP?? or just use the public info as far as his rankings. i was just curious because i noticed a lot of sharps mentioning KP and trying to find out if its worth buying myself
                                  Only handicapping tool I pay for. To me it well worth it. Might just be because I used for so long back when it was free I came to rely on it. I could prob find everything other places but it so well put together it saves me a ton of time as I don’t have to jump around at all. Well worth the 20 bucks imo., hopefully baseball reference and fan graphs don’t figure out I’d pay them 20 also but think it coming w fangraphs! Lol..
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                                  • DOM_Toretto
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 01-28-13
                                    • 9035

                                    #542
                                    I mean for basically the cost of juice on 1 game for me I get all the stats I want in one place and easily organized. I should get paid for this damn KP advertisement I’m doing haha
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                                    • killersweet
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 12-02-08
                                      • 1483

                                      #543
                                      Originally posted by Smoke
                                      Banker is the real deal.

                                      One of the most legit gamblers in the business

                                      I've gone to him for my NCAA wagers many of times
                                      He is solid. But the freaking guy stopped posting NFL picks.
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                                      • 2daBank
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 01-26-09
                                        • 88966

                                        #544
                                        Originally posted by killersweet
                                        He is solid. But the freaking guy stopped posting NFL picks.
                                        I only like posting when I’m really confident bro. I found when I ran a nfl thread I felt obligated to find plays every week and truth is there just weeks I know are gonna be bad. This season without a thread I have been able to really not play much the weeks I hated card., I have still posted a Ton of nfl plays, early on when I was feeling it I made bunch of threads. Then for 2-3 weeks I hated cards and was a struggle, not gonna give ya’ll plays I don’t love and am not betting myself! Good news is these last few weeks I’ve realky started seeing things well again and while hadn’t made thread lately I put some good plays in Jj daily plays threads!! will make a thread this week cause I’m going 5-0 or 4-1 at worst in BTP!!! I need a 5-0 week and a solid week 17 to get into the monies!!
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                                        • 2daBank
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 01-26-09
                                          • 88966

                                          #545
                                          Originally posted by DOM_Toretto
                                          I mean for basically the cost of juice on 1 game for me I get all the stats I want in one place and easily organized. I should get paid for this damn KP advertisement I’m doing haha
                                          Get in line pal, I been selling him for years. I honestly can’t believe you capped without it!! Like you said it makes my life so much easier!!! Lol
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                                          • Smoke
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 10-09-09
                                            • 48111

                                            #546
                                            Any opinion on Duke game
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                                            • 2daBank
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 01-26-09
                                              • 88966

                                              #547
                                              Originally posted by 2daBank

                                              Bradly/ga southern under 154.5.. clash of styles here. We often on southern overs cause they love to push the pace, in fact that why I believe we have some nice value in this total. It is incredibly rare a up tempo team is able to dictate pace to Bradley or many other of the valley teams for that matter. In fact these 2 hooked up last year and the game was kept to far fewer possessions than typical southern games. Southern has been going even faster this season but again I don’t expect Bradley to want any part of that. In that game Bradley held southern to only .80 points per possession and Bradley was only a tic better at .87. All that tells us is we have plenty of room for the pace to be closer to southern liking and still be coming in under the number. I really think this game played close, I came up w 72-70 which obviously way under this number, as I said in open southern pace and scores they been involved in I believe giving us nice value here.


                                              Cuse -3 -115... I been line watching this game like a Mfer waiting hoping bulls money come in and take this lower. Don’t get me wrong I’m a huge fan this buffalo team, we made some nice coin being on them early before everyone took notice (remeber when we had them beating wvu !) but this a tough matchup for them. Cuse length a real problem for them as is the zone cause bulls are easily enticed into settling for jumpers despite it not being their strength (43% of their shots from 3 despite only shooting 33%) last year cuse got them to fire only one fewer 3 than 2 in a game cuse won by 7.. cuse won that game by getting to the charity stripe and think they were earn their money there once again as they have guys who bulls really can’t defend without fouling inside.
                                              ND/Marquette Under 144.5... this one those blowout special unders I tend to like. We already have a amazing blueprint for how this should look as golden eagles have already played 2 incredibly comparable teams to North Dakota and those games ended in almost identical scores w marq in mid 70s and scrub team in mid 50s. Worst case imo would be marq getting really hot and getting into the 80s but imo there very little chance Dakota sniffs 60 as they play slow, their offense is terrible, and marq plays better than average defense. And of course in games like this even if there little more scoring than expected early on there should be very little motivation to score the last 4 minutes.. really like this one.
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                                              • 2daBank
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 01-26-09
                                                • 88966

                                                #548
                                                Originally posted by Smoke
                                                Any opinion on Duke game
                                                I really wanted to jump on the over overnight (knew it prob go up) but I have a tough time w their totals as they really have the ability to lock a team down if they feel like it. My thinking here was it possible the Princeton offense might have some success as who knows how much the young dukies have seen it? Then of course you can basically pencil duke in for 90-95. Just so tough for me to play those huge spread games, only exception is I have pretty good success finding unders but this obviously not one of those.
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                                                • survive
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 01-08-11
                                                  • 2388

                                                  #549
                                                  Originally posted by frankieunits2685
                                                  you pay for KP?? or just use the public info as far as his rankings. i was just curious because i noticed a lot of sharps mentioning KP and trying to find out if its worth buying myself
                                                  There’s another site that I found that’s extremely similar to kp and it’s free. Not sure if I’m allowed to post it, sbr can be weird about that stuff sometimes
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                                                  • pilebuck13
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 05-15-15
                                                    • 17918

                                                    #550
                                                    Jumpin on that morehead st Wright over both terrible defense but also pretty lousy squads....I’ll bite at 143.
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                                                    • pilebuck13
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 05-15-15
                                                      • 17918

                                                      #551
                                                      Originally posted by survive
                                                      There’s another site that I found that’s extremely similar to kp and it’s free. Not sure if I’m allowed to post it, sbr can be weird about that stuff sometimes
                                                      Team rankings . Com is excellent
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                                                      • killersweet
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 12-02-08
                                                        • 1483

                                                        #552
                                                        Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                        I only like posting when I’m really confident bro. I found when I ran a nfl thread I felt obligated to find plays every week and truth is there just weeks I know are gonna be bad. This season without a thread I have been able to really not play much the weeks I hated card., I have still posted a Ton of nfl plays, early on when I was feeling it I made bunch of threads. Then for 2-3 weeks I hated cards and was a struggle, not gonna give ya’ll plays I don’t love and am not betting myself! Good news is these last few weeks I’ve realky started seeing things well again and while hadn’t made thread lately I put some good plays in Jj daily plays threads!! will make a thread this week cause I’m going 5-0 or 4-1 at worst in BTP!!! I need a 5-0 week and a solid week 17 to get into the monies!!
                                                        I know man. You told me before. Just bugging ya. Your thread was great though. Especially for totals. Even when you didn’t make plays, you were on point. Looking forward to your thread.
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                                                        • 2daBank
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 01-26-09
                                                          • 88966

                                                          #553
                                                          Originally posted by survive
                                                          There’s another site that I found that’s extremely similar to kp and it’s free. Not sure if I’m allowed to post it, sbr can be weird about that stuff sometimes
                                                          Not sure why it be a problem long as it not something that in competition with them and not a tout service?? Tell ya what bro, go ahead and tell us and if they don’t like it they can take it up w me!! I mean worst case they say “don’t do it again” anything more than that and we will have a problem!!! Lol..

                                                          At this point KP so familiar for me and the fact I used his stuff for free for years I actually have no problem at all paying and always will, he deserves it imo.. that said others that not in that situation would obviously be wise to take adv of the free site!!
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                                                          • 2daBank
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 01-26-09
                                                            • 88966

                                                            #554
                                                            Mfer I’m kicking myself for not jumping on few overnight totals I was leaning. Figured I should sleep 1st but man both of them have moved a ton, I could have attempted to middle both of them at this point!! That duke over and the X/mizzou under, holy cow they are steaming.. at this point the X/mizzou over is getting really close to being a play.
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                                                            • 2daBank
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 01-26-09
                                                              • 88966

                                                              #555
                                                              Originally posted by 2daBank



                                                              Bradly/ga southern under 154.5.. clash of styles here. We often on southern overs cause they love to push the pace, in fact that why I believe we have some nice value in this total. It is incredibly rare a up tempo team is able to dictate pace to Bradley or many other of the valley teams for that matter. In fact these 2 hooked up last year and the game was kept to far fewer possessions than typical southern games. Southern has been going even faster this season but again I don’t expect Bradley to want any part of that. In that game Bradley held southern to only .80 points per possession and Bradley was only a tic better at .87. All that tells us is we have plenty of room for the pace to be closer to southern liking and still be coming in under the number. I really think this game played close, I came up w 72-70 which obviously way under this number, as I said in open southern pace and scores they been involved in I believe giving us nice value here.


                                                              Cuse -3 -115... I been line watching this game like a Mfer waiting hoping bulls money come in and take this lower. Don’t get me wrong I’m a huge fan this buffalo team, we made some nice coin being on them early before everyone took notice (remeber when we had them beating wvu !) but this a tough matchup for them. Cuse length a real problem for them as is the zone cause bulls are easily enticed into settling for jumpers despite it not being their strength (43% of their shots from 3 despite only shooting 33%) last year cuse got them to fire only one fewer 3 than 2 in a game cuse won by 7.. cuse won that game by getting to the charity stripe and think they were earn their money there once again as they have guys who bulls really can’t defend without fouling inside.


                                                              ND/Marquette Under 144.5... this one those blowout special unders I tend to like. We already have a amazing blueprint for how this should look as golden eagles have already played 2 incredibly comparable teams to North Dakota and those games ended in almost identical scores w marq in mid 70s and scrub team in mid 50s. Worst case imo would be marq getting really hot and getting into the 80s but imo there very little chance Dakota sniffs 60 as they play slow, their offense is terrible, and marq plays better than average defense. And of course in games like this even if there little more scoring than expected early on there should be very little motivation to score the last 4 minutes.. really like this one.
                                                              Oklahoma -6.5... not sure how this sooner team isn’t ranked yet? They been so great since that little ball hog left! Experienced team who playing some of the best defense in the country against one of the toughest schedules. Doesn’t seem like a good matchup for a young Jays team who lives and dies with their 3 point shooting, as good as it is it not the best recipe to win on the road against a strong defensive club which has already played out in Nebraska and even at home against osu. I think we will see the same thing again tonight and sooners take this by 8-10.
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                                                              • survive
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 01-08-11
                                                                • 2388

                                                                #556
                                                                Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                                Not sure why it be a problem long as it not something that in competition with them and not a tout service?? Tell ya what bro, go ahead and tell us and if they don’t like it they can take it up w me!! I mean worst case they say “don’t do it again” anything more than that and we will have a problem!!! Lol..

                                                                At this point KP so familiar for me and the fact I used his stuff for free for years I actually have no problem at all paying and always will, he deserves it imo.. that said others that not in that situation would obviously be wise to take adv of the free site!!
                                                                Site is Barttorvik.com

                                                                Very similar to kp and has helped me a ton. Hope it helps others here!
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                                                                • 2daBank
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 01-26-09
                                                                  • 88966

                                                                  #557
                                                                  Originally posted by survive
                                                                  Site is Barttorvik.com

                                                                  Very similar to kp and has helped me a ton. Hope it helps others here!
                                                                  Right on. If I was someone who didn’t have kp already I’d def check that out. I prob will and see if I like then might go ahead and switch next season.. what you looking at tonight bro?
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                                                                  • 2daBank
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 01-26-09
                                                                    • 88966

                                                                    #558
                                                                    Originally posted by 2daBank



                                                                    Bradly/ga southern under 154.5.. clash of styles here. We often on southern overs cause they love to push the pace, in fact that why I believe we have some nice value in this total. It is incredibly rare a up tempo team is able to dictate pace to Bradley or many other of the valley teams for that matter. In fact these 2 hooked up last year and the game was kept to far fewer possessions than typical southern games. Southern has been going even faster this season but again I don’t expect Bradley to want any part of that. In that game Bradley held southern to only .80 points per possession and Bradley was only a tic better at .87. All that tells us is we have plenty of room for the pace to be closer to southern liking and still be coming in under the number. I really think this game played close, I came up w 72-70 which obviously way under this number, as I said in open southern pace and scores they been involved in I believe giving us nice value here.


                                                                    Cuse -3 -115... I been line watching this game like a Mfer waiting hoping bulls money come in and take this lower. Don’t get me wrong I’m a huge fan this buffalo team, we made some nice coin being on them early before everyone took notice (remeber when we had them beating wvu !) but this a tough matchup for them. Cuse length a real problem for them as is the zone cause bulls are easily enticed into settling for jumpers despite it not being their strength (43% of their shots from 3 despite only shooting 33%) last year cuse got them to fire only one fewer 3 than 2 in a game cuse won by 7.. cuse won that game by getting to the charity stripe and think they were earn their money there once again as they have guys who bulls really can’t defend without fouling inside.


                                                                    ND/Marquette Under 144.5... this one those blowout special unders I tend to like. We already have a amazing blueprint for how this should look as golden eagles have already played 2 incredibly comparable teams to North Dakota and those games ended in almost identical scores w marq in mid 70s and scrub team in mid 50s. Worst case imo would be marq getting really hot and getting into the 80s but imo there very little chance Dakota sniffs 60 as they play slow, their offense is terrible, and marq plays better than average defense. And of course in games like this even if there little more scoring than expected early on there should be very little motivation to score the last 4 minutes.. really like this one.


                                                                    Oklahoma -6.5... not sure how this sooner team isn’t ranked yet? They been so great since that little ball hog left! Experienced team who playing some of the best defense in the country against one of the toughest schedules. Doesn’t seem like a good matchup for a young Jays team who lives and dies with their 3 point shooting, as good as it is it not the best recipe to win on the road against a strong defensive club which has already played out in Nebraska and even at home against osu. I think we will see the same thing again tonight and sooners take this by 8-10.
                                                                    X/mizzou over 128.5... when I 1st capped this last night I leaned slightly under so I get why it dropped (I made it 133ish) but this thing has steamed out of control actually creating what I feel is solid value on the other side. While this gonna be far from a track meet what both do offensively should play vs what are weaknesses of the opposing team. Tigers love to shoot from deep and other than Tillman all their bigs like to step out and shoot it, X is 298th in nation in 3 point defense and that zone they mostly play encourages teams to shoot it, 44% of their opponents shots have come from long range! There just no way I see them holding tigers to less than 65. The only team who has held X under 65 all season was cincy, make no mistake while tigers play solid defense they are by no means the bearcats on the defensive end. So this really boils down pretty simply, both teams are gonna score at least 65 imho, by my math that is more than 130 (obviously can’t end in a 65 tie!). So once again banker can’t help himself when he sees steam worth fading!
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                                                                    • survive
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 01-08-11
                                                                      • 2388

                                                                      #559
                                                                      Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                                      Right on. If I was someone who didn’t have kp already I’d def check that out. I prob will and see if I like then might go ahead and switch next season.. what you looking at tonight bro?
                                                                      Cuse only play for me tonight brother. I’m too deep in bowl games and nfl right now lol, don’t want to piss away my profits in those so betting college hoops pretty conservatively until January!
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                                                                      • 2daBank
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 01-26-09
                                                                        • 88966

                                                                        #560
                                                                        Originally posted by survive
                                                                        Cuse only play for me tonight brother. I’m too deep in bowl games and nfl right now lol, don’t want to piss away my profits in those so betting college hoops pretty conservatively until January!
                                                                        Lol. For a few weeks it was total opposite, pissed away my hoops profits on nfl: been seeing that pretty well again the last few tho (right when hoops hit a slump, lol)., I Havnt even looked at a bowl game yet, might need you to shoot me a pm w ones you really like!!
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