Raiders have to be tanking.

**jjgold** · 11-01-18, 09:58 PM

Tanking for what??

**cincinnatikid513** · 11-01-18, 10:06 PM

will books start taking raiders games off the board, how do u set lines for a team that clearly isn't trying

**Sam Odom** · 11-01-18, 10:09 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Tanking for what??

R U watching

**Roadtrip635** · 11-01-18, 10:10 PM

Just Tank Baby!

**goduke** · 11-01-18, 10:13 PM

Of course they are tanking.

**lakerboy** · 11-01-18, 10:15 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Tanking for what??

You can't be this slow?

**Coolcanuck79** · 11-01-18, 10:15 PM

They aren't trying at all!

**The Giant** · 11-01-18, 10:25 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

You can't be this slow?

He's asking what are they tanking for.

As in, what player?

**2daBank** · 11-01-18, 10:26 PM

Originally posted by cincinnatikid513

will books start taking raiders games off the board, how do u set lines for a team that clearly isn't trying

Wtf the line gonna be in the 2 games vs kc?? 17-20? Is that even close to enough? I could easily see kc waxing them by 30-40 points.

**Roadtrip635** · 11-01-18, 10:29 PM

Originally posted by 2daBank

Wtf the line gonna be in the 2 games vs kc?? 17-20? Is that even close to enough? I could easily see kc waxing them by 30-40 points.

KC could legit put up 70+ points against the Raiders.

**The Kraken** · 11-01-18, 10:31 PM

Originally posted by The Giant

He's asking what are they tanking for.

As in, what player?

Probably Murray from Oklahoma, Carr is too expensive and not productive enough, he gone.

Why would they win at this point? The season is 100% over for them

**2daBank** · 11-01-18, 10:34 PM

Originally posted by The Kraken

Probably Murray from Oklahoma, Carr is too expensive and not productive enough, he gone.

Why would they win at this point? The season is 100% over for them

Pride, self respect.

**The Giant** · 11-01-18, 10:38 PM

Originally posted by The Kraken

Probably Murray from Oklahoma, Carr is too expensive and not productive enough, he gone.

Why would they win at this point? The season is 100% over for them

Murray is set to play baseball, isn't he?

**NardVa** · 11-01-18, 10:38 PM

The fans should be boycotting the Raiders and the Oakland execs should be thinking hard about buying out Gruden. No way this situation gets better in year 2 or 3. Gruden set this team back 5 years.

**The Kraken** · 11-01-18, 10:39 PM

Originally posted by 2daBank

Pride, self respect.

Gotta disagree. Maybe 30 years ago when there seemed to be a code of ethics but those days are gone.

Pride and self respect come next year and the year after. All that matters is having good players to win, not constantly being 4-12 or 5-11

Unfortunately gotta tank to get young, cheap players. Then put the peices around them because the $$$ is there

hicago and Dallas wont do much with the players they acquired from the Raiders

**The Kraken** · 11-01-18, 10:40 PM

Originally posted by The Giant

Murray is set to play baseball, isn't he?

Hadn’t heard that but just googled it and you’re right, he’s coming to Oakland next year

Wow, would be something to win the heisman and not play in the nfl

**lakerboy** · 11-01-18, 10:43 PM

Originally posted by NardVa

The fans should be boycotting the Raiders and the Oakland execs should be thinking hard about buying out Gruden. No way this situation gets better in year 2 or 3. Gruden set this team back 5 years.

You know nothing about sports

**lakerboy** · 11-01-18, 10:44 PM

Originally posted by The Kraken

Hadn’t heard that but just googled it and you’re right, he’s coming to Oakland next year

Wow, would be something to win the heisman and not play in the nfl

He decided to keep his brain

**shocka1212** · 11-01-18, 10:48 PM

Originally posted by Roadtrip635

KC could legit put up 70+ points against the Raiders.

and about 10 other teams

**bonzaii** · 11-01-18, 10:54 PM

Originally posted by NardVa

The fans should be boycotting the Raiders and the Oakland execs should be thinking hard about buying out Gruden. No way this situation gets better in year 2 or 3. Gruden set this team back 5 years.

Agreed, product on the field is pathetic. Perfect time for the Raiders to set sail to Vegas.

**ChuckyTheGoat** · 11-01-18, 11:02 PM

Originally posted by The Kraken

Hadn’t heard that but just googled it and you’re right, he’s coming to Oakland next year

Wow, would be something to win the heisman and not play in the nfl

Charlie Ward (Noles) did it.

**Wrongside** · 11-01-18, 11:50 PM

Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat

Charlie Ward (Noles) did it.

Johnny Manziel did it

**kingdom** · 11-01-18, 11:55 PM

Originally posted by The Giant

He's asking what are they tanking for.

As in, what player?

in the nfl the whole draft is a lottery. you can find great players in any round. and if you tank you get your choice in each round. having the 1st and 33rd and 65th pick plus all their extras is pretty good. raiders are gonna pick up lots of talent in the next few years. hard to trade carr cause who the fukk wants him? he was owned by a guy none of us heard of until today.

**VeggieDog** · 11-02-18, 12:57 AM

Coming in 2020: New city. New stadium. Sold out games. Second full year of Gruden shopping for the groceries. They'll be fine.

**19th Hole** · 11-02-18, 01:07 AM

Originally posted by VeggieDog

Coming in 2020: New city. New stadium. Sold out games. Second full year of Gruden shopping for the groceries. They'll be fine.

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You trust Gruden with the shopping list?

2019

Team	Transactions
Round 1
Bears	Raiders Traded • Khalil Mack • 2020 second round pick (?-?) • 2020 conditional fifth round pick (?-?) to Bears for • 2019 first round pick (?-?) • 2019 sixth round pick (?-?) • 2020 first round pick (?-?) • 2020 third round pick (?-?) on 2018-09-01
Cowboys	Raiders Traded • Amari Cooper to Cowboys for • 2019 first round pick (?-?) on 2018-10-22
Raiders
Round 2
Raiders
Round 3
Raiders
Round 4
Raiders
Round 5
Raiders
Steelers	Raiders Traded • Ryan Switzer • 2019 sixth round pick (?-?) to Steelers for • 2019 fifth round pick (?-?) on 2018-08-27	Bills Traded • A.J. McCarron to Raiders for • 2019 fifth round pick (?-?) on 2018-09-01
Round 6
Bears	Raiders Traded • Khalil Mack • 2020 second round pick (?-?) • 2020 conditional fifth round pick (?-?) to Bears for • 2019 first round pick (?-?) • 2019 sixth round pick (?-?) • 2020 first round pick (?-?) • 2020 third round pick (?-?) on 2018-09-01
Raiders	Steelers Traded • 2019 fifth round pick (?-?) to Raiders for • Ryan Switzer • 2019 sixth round pick (?-?) on 2018-08-27
Round 7
Raiders
Seahawks	Raiders Traded • Shalom Luani to Seahawks for • 2019 seventh round pick (?-?) on 2018-09-01

2020

Team	Transactions
Round 1
Bears	Raiders Traded • Khalil Mack • 2020 second round pick (?-?) • 2020 conditional fifth round pick (?-?) to Bears for • 2019 first round pick (?-?) • 2019 sixth round pick (?-?) • 2020 first round pick (?-?) • 2020 third round pick (?-?) on 2018-09-01
Raiders
Round 2
Raiders	Bears Traded • 2019 first round pick (?-?) • 2019 sixth round pick (?-?) • 2020 first round pick (?-?) • 2020 third round pick (?-?) to Raiders for • Khalil Mack • 2020 second round pick (?-?) • 2020 conditional fifth round pick (?-?) on 2018-09-01
Round 3
Bears	Raiders Traded • Khalil Mack • 2020 second round pick (?-?) • 2020 conditional fifth round pick (?-?) to Bears for • 2019 first round pick (?-?) • 2019 sixth round pick (?-?) • 2020 first round pick (?-?) • 2020 third round pick (?-?) on 2018-09-01
Raiders
Round 4
Raiders
Round 5
Raiders	Bears (conditional) PICK MAY OR MAY NOT TRANSFER DEPENDING ON UNCONFIRMED CONDITIONS Traded • 2019 first round pick (?-?) • 2019 sixth round pick (?-?) • 2020 first round pick (?-?) • 2020 third round pick (?-?) to Raiders for • Khalil Mack • 2020 second round pick (?-?) • 2020 conditional fifth round pick (?-?) on 2018-09-01

**VeggieDog** · 11-02-18, 01:19 AM

"You trust Gruden with the shopping list?"

He's playing rope-a-dope. Crazy like a fox. This is gonna work.

**JayLA** · 11-02-18, 01:26 AM

I mean....its crazy enough to work.

Mike Ditka Ricky William's...but in reverse....

**seaborneq** · 11-02-18, 10:38 AM

Just an awful showing last night. Looks like a Hue Jackson rebuild that will never gain traction

**Sam Odom** · 11-02-18, 10:40 AM

Originally posted by seaborneq

Just an awful showing last night.

Many players just quit

Was not a designed thing

**thebestthereis** · 11-02-18, 10:59 AM

The players are not quitting, they are playing hard for jobs and millions of dollars. Example if they are not playing hard and get cut by Raiders they have nowhere to go because look worthless to anyone else. There is major discourse with Gruden, Carr and the players. As a whole they may not care or plan very well, but individually not quitting. The problem people don't see and Gruden does is that his players overall suck so it looks like they aren't trying. Many will be gone next year in the blowup but nobody isn't trying on the field. The Raiders are not a good team and Carr is now in the Jay Cutler stage of life.

**Louisvillekid1** · 11-02-18, 11:11 AM

Wonder how much the K Mack trade

impacted that locker room

**ikid2groove415** · 11-02-18, 11:17 AM

Jimmy Johnson 1-15 his first year in Dallas - keep yapping morons - And gruden got a 10 year contract - Stop saying he’s going get fired idiots lol -

**yisman** · 11-02-18, 11:21 AM

Originally posted by lakerboy

He decided to keep his brain

NFL is flag football. Not allowed to hit QB.

**Sam Odom** · 11-02-18, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by ikid2groove415

Jimmy Johnson 1-15 his first year in Dallas

you were listening to Troy Aikman too much last night