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  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #1
    NJ sports betting data Numbers in
    Quick reminder on handle vs. revenue: The term “handle” represents the total sum of all wagers placed. “Revenue” is what’s left over after sportsbooks pay out the winning tickets — the gross profit.


    NJ data is separated by operator, of which there are currently three. The revenue numbers break down like this, bearing in mind that the Ocean Resort Casino just opened on June 28:


    Monmouth Park: $2,279,166
    Borgata: $986,831
    Ocean Resort Casino: $192,671
    Betting handle is also itemized by sport and type:


    MLB: $10.1 million total, $130,177 futures
    Soccer: $2.2 million total, $500,247 futures
    NFL: $280,611 futures


    Land-based sports betting revenue is taxed at a rate of 8.5 percent, so the state of New Jersey earned just less than $300,000 across the reporting period. Projections vary, but some lawmakers expect to realize annual tax revenue approaching $100 million.



    If we extrapolated the NJ sports betting numbers across a 30-day month, they’d look like this:



    Handle: $28,958,151
    Revenue: $6,103,532
    Taxes: $518,801


    The reporting method makes direct comparison a little tricky, but you can see the recent data from other states here:
  • 7deuceoff$uit
    SBR MVP
    • 04-08-16
    • 2212

    #2
    Is this the random shift JJ?
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    • pavyracer
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 04-12-07
      • 82839

      #3
      When football starts it will skyrocket.
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      • jjgold
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 07-20-05
        • 388179

        #4
        It’s not bad but the revenues are only going to pay the bills and employees but it’s better than nothing and generates job and crowds to promote other businesses
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        • vividjohn45
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 11-21-10
          • 6331

          #5
          It's good jj. When the hard Rock casino gets a sports book in Tulsa. (Oklahoma by next year). I'll invite you to Tulsa for a few days stay there at hard Rock and give you two $100 bets. I'll pay the juice up to -115. I saw three jackpots hits on the main floor within a hour or so. The gal I was with, I sponsored her slots play. I don't play at all, I was there for the blow job. (Sloppy).
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          • grease lightnin
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 10-01-12
            • 16015

            #6
            Lots of tremendous squares in NJ
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            • jjgold
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 07-20-05
              • 388179

              #7
              Football should be real big
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              • PAULYPOKER
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 12-06-08
                • 36581

                #8
                -I suggest you stop fighting the inevitable, JJ..........

                Accept and adapt...........
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                • USCPHILLYGUY
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 12-15-12
                  • 21746

                  #9
                  Of course forgets to mention that online wagering should be up and running in a few weeks. Can only imagine what the numbers will be then.
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                  • juicername
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 10-14-15
                    • 6906

                    #10
                    No way this is one of the usual JJ Gold users.

                    Multi accounting allowed???
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                    • Optional
                      Administrator
                      • 06-10-10
                      • 61630

                      #11
                      When the general public who have not gambled simply because it was illegal start to get involved the numbers will bloat. That might take quite a few years for public perception to change. But it will happen and the states will hit their big revenue targets eventually.
                      .
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                      • jjgold
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 07-20-05
                        • 388179

                        #12
                        NJ Meadowlands will always have the biggest numbers

                        States now will study NJ and say wtf we are going to let our states go visit other states to gamble?????

                        NY will be forced to pass

                        PA gov't will be forced to lower lic fee
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                        • SBR Tony
                          Moderator
                          • 01-31-18
                          • 3934

                          #13
                          Originally posted by jjgold
                          NJ Meadowlands will always have the biggest numbers

                          States now will study NJ and say wtf we are going to let our states go visit other states to gamble?????

                          NY will be forced to pass

                          PA gov't will be forced to lower lic fee
                          and the Tax rate, because nobody wants to pay 36%
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                          • BuckyOne
                            SBR MVP
                            • 01-02-15
                            • 2728

                            #14
                            Did the state of New Jersey offer scratch tickets - power ball - video lottery - anything like that? Will some states feel their revenue would fall way off on those forms if they were to legalize sports betting?
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                            • jjgold
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 07-20-05
                              • 388179

                              #15
                              Originally posted by BuckyOne
                              Did the state of New Jersey offer scratch tickets - power ball - video lottery - anything like that? Will some states feel their revenue would fall way off on those forms if they were to legalize sports betting?
                              NJ has everything
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                              • pavyracer
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 04-12-07
                                • 82839

                                #16
                                Originally posted by juicername
                                No way this is one of the usual JJ Gold users.

                                Multi accounting allowed???
                                The video guy can't spell or use grammar. This is the summer intern they hired to fill in posts when the coach is on vacation.
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                                • jjgold
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 07-20-05
                                  • 388179

                                  #17
                                  Paver I will be visiting the Greek Isles next week for a soccer tourney I am
                                  In. The club I am on got invited.
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                                  • nyplayer33
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 09-27-06
                                    • 8303

                                    #18
                                    Took usa all these years to do it...UK had it legal forever. New Jersey sports betting will sky rocket...boom
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                                    • nyplayer33
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 09-27-06
                                      • 8303

                                      #19
                                      Once everybody knows about sports gambling...it will takeoff
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                                      • jjgold
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 07-20-05
                                        • 388179

                                        #20
                                        NJ has to hope NY does not get it for a while
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                                        • Snowball
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 11-15-09
                                          • 30058

                                          #21
                                          The bill attaches an 8.5 percent tax to winning sports bets placed at brick-and-mortar locations,
                                          along with a 13 percent levy from winning bets made online.

                                          Question: is that a walk-away number or do you have to file over the IRS threshold in addition
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                                          • 19th Hole
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 03-22-09
                                            • 18954

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by pavyracer
                                            The video guy can't spell or use grammar. This is the summer intern they hired to fill in posts when the coach is on vacation.
                                            ~~The new JJ with a G.E.D.
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                                            • PAULYPOKER
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 12-06-08
                                              • 36581

                                              #23
                                              No one can take an opinion from anyone involved in the offshore sports gaming business
                                              as their opinions will be emotionally biased...........
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                                              • Lenny Zefflin
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 08-17-17
                                                • 130

                                                #24
                                                What the hell? A month handle would be 30 mil and the book would keep a revenue of 6 mil? That's about 20%. Unless they are counting futures as handles and 100% revenue since they haven't been paid out yet.
                                                Originally posted by jjgold
                                                Quick reminder on handle vs. revenue: The term “handle” represents the total sum of all wagers placed. “Revenue” is what’s left over after sportsbooks pay out the winning tickets — the gross profit.


                                                NJ data is separated by operator, of which there are currently three. The revenue numbers break down like this, bearing in mind that the Ocean Resort Casino just opened on June 28:


                                                Monmouth Park: $2,279,166
                                                Borgata: $986,831
                                                Ocean Resort Casino: $192,671
                                                Betting handle is also itemized by sport and type:


                                                MLB: $10.1 million total, $130,177 futures
                                                Soccer: $2.2 million total, $500,247 futures
                                                NFL: $280,611 futures


                                                Land-based sports betting revenue is taxed at a rate of 8.5 percent, so the state of New Jersey earned just less than $300,000 across the reporting period. Projections vary, but some lawmakers expect to realize annual tax revenue approaching $100 million.



                                                If we extrapolated the NJ sports betting numbers across a 30-day month, they’d look like this:



                                                Handle: $28,958,151
                                                Revenue: $6,103,532
                                                Taxes: $518,801


                                                The reporting method makes direct comparison a little tricky, but you can see the recent data from other states here:
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                                                • grease lightnin
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 10-01-12
                                                  • 16015

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                  The video guy can't spell or use grammar. This is the summer intern they hired to fill in posts when the coach is on vacation.
                                                  Pavy hows your milf doing, bro?
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                                                  • sweep
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 10-09-10
                                                    • 16753

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Snowball
                                                    The bill attaches an 8.5 percent tax to winning sports bets placed at brick-and-mortar locations,
                                                    along with a 13 percent levy from winning bets made online.

                                                    Question: is that a walk-away number or do you have to file over the IRS threshold in addition
                                                    these tax fees are for the casino operator, not the player
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                                                    • vividjohn45
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 11-21-10
                                                      • 6331

                                                      #27
                                                      Yah. If I move it's Vegas or Philadelphia. The biggest plus of Vegas though, is it's 5 hours to Tijuana.
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                                                      • PAULYPOKER
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 12-06-08
                                                        • 36581

                                                        #28
                                                        ^ Eating barbecued iguana.........
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                                                        • matrix1022
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 03-04-12
                                                          • 565

                                                          #29
                                                          It’s been great at Borgata !!! I’m doing well and some buddies of mine . Can’t believe the money that is finally in our hands . We been hanging at Borgata every day . I have a house up north jersey. ( good rentals). And house (shore ) where I live and it’s been exciting ! Say the least. I met to guys up in upstate and gave me 2 ufc fighters and both won (dan +220 ) was very nice to hit . Been betting Boston and against Mets and doing great ! It’s going to explode every day and beyond football . We get paid cash !! Few guys were negative because they don’t have money and see nothing else to say to guys winnings. (The odds are high and you can’t win ) yea right. My buddy won over 47 ,000 already. Betting against Mets and Os. So instead of being negative, congratulate and you get a few free drinks on him . Some guys are so stupid , well it’s been great and hope some guys here join in and win !! Borgata plans are awesome on new sports book . I seen the beautiful plan that it’s going to look like . Can’t wait to get my noir card almost there !
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                                                          • jjgold
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 07-20-05
                                                            • 388179

                                                            #30
                                                            Lol

                                                            Good one but you’re going down a path of compulsive gambling

                                                            Way better things to do in life then gamble every day stop wasting your time

                                                            I’m already out walking in a beautiful park and rarely ever touch casinos or sports books

                                                            We are from a cast system and raise that’s not proper to be around nor associate with gamblers in person
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                                                            • matrix1022
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 03-04-12
                                                              • 565

                                                              #31
                                                              Love it !! Been in around whole life waiting for great sports life making money . I remember they asked me what number 1 thing I wanted in race and sports book. And I said no smoking ! Got it !! Live well ! No regrets ! Good great ! Swim daily , enjoy life at its fullest! I love this life !!!
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                                                              • PAULYPOKER
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 12-06-08
                                                                • 36581

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by matrix1022
                                                                It’s been great at Borgata !!! I’m doing well and some buddies of mine . Can’t believe the money that is finally in our hands . We been hanging at Borgata every day . I have a house up north jersey. ( good rentals). And house (shore ) where I live and it’s been exciting ! Say the least. I met to guys up in upstate and gave me 2 ufc fighters and both won (dan +220 ) was very nice to hit . Been betting Boston and against Mets and doing great ! It’s going to explode every day and beyond football . We get paid cash !! Few guys were negative because they don’t have money and see nothing else to say to guys winnings. (The odds are high and you can’t win ) yea right. My buddy won over 47 ,000 already. Betting against Mets and Os. So instead of being negative, congratulate and you get a few free drinks on him . Some guys are so stupid , well it’s been great and hope some guys here join in and win !! Borgata plans are awesome on new sports book . I seen the beautiful plan that it’s going to look like . Can’t wait to get my noir card almost there !
                                                                Lol..........Sounds like the author and 90% of SBR players talk posters........
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                                                                • jjgold
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                                  • 388179

                                                                  #33
                                                                  He is a tout..typical set up
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                                                                  • Snowball
                                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                    • 11-15-09
                                                                    • 30058

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by sweep
                                                                    these tax fees are for the casino operator, not the player
                                                                    What is the IRS threshold for sports bets ? 600? 1200?
                                                                    5,000 W-2g ? CRT ?
                                                                    Big handle + big tax + run by states who keep records of all bets
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                                                                    • jjgold
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 07-20-05
                                                                      • 388179

                                                                      #35
                                                                      good to hang at a book to mix it up and if your a non serious player

                                                                      Anyone else you need offshore
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