Most disappointing MLB team so far

[hotcross]

10% into the season, still very early. But which team has disappointed you so far? (homerism or not)

Baltimore Orioles at 5-13 record? (soon to be 5-14 in progress)

Washington Nationals at 9-10 record?

Chicago Cubs at 7-8 record?

LA Dodgers 8-9 at record?

NY Yankees at 8-8 record?

Cleveland Indians at 9-7 record?

Other?

[Waterstpub87]

I would say Yankees. Biased because I watched the game Tuesday, where they looked like a little league team.

[hotcross]

maybe Houston Astros at 12-7 record? Just hit into a triple-play groundball in Seattle, top of 4th inning....Evan Gattis wandered off first base thinking the double-play (step on third base, throw to second base) made 3 total outs in the inning, but it was only two down until they tagged him out!

[t-wizzle]

maybe Houston Astros at 12-7 record? Just hit into a triple-play groundball in Seattle, top of 4th inning....Evan Gattis wandered off first base thinking the double-play (step on third base, throw to second base) made 3 total outs in the inning, but it was only two down until they tagged him out!

Lol what? 12-7 is disappointing? That puts them on pace for over 100 wins. I knew you were dumb but you might be even slower than I originally thought.

[hotcross]

^^^^comparing to other division leaders at the present time:

Boston Red Sox 15-2

LA Angels 13-5 (AL West division ahead of Astros)

NY Mets 13-4

[RangeFinder]

It's early guys, wait for the All Star break and then you can determine who's under performing. Some teams start slow but finish strong.

[turtlejc]

how has no one said the reds? 3-15 and just canned Price

[funnyb25]

Definitely the Dodgers

[MMANick]

Probably the Cubs or Yanks as of now, but it is really early.

[hotcross]

and t-wizzle, can you let it go of our e-beef you imagined? Say something constructive, or nothing at all.

I didn't even diss you, I was making a joke that you and Mr. Munny were on the same pick one night...it won by the way.

[danshan11]

no ? Yankees, they have enough firepower to have high school pitchers and win 80 games

[MMANick]

how has no one said the reds? 3-15 and just canned Price

I think because they were expected to be horrible.

[t-wizzle]

and t-wizzle, can you let it go of our e-beef you imagined? Say something constructive, or nothing at all.

I didn't even diss you, I was making a joke that you and Mr. Munny were on the same pick one night...it won by the way.

Fine by me. Beef squashed.

That doesn’t mean that I can’t be critical of your post. 12-7 is a good start.

[slambam]

I'd say the Dodgers. I'm not sure why people are so surprised about the Yankees. They're pitching other than Severino is terrible and they'll probably set the record for Ks by an offense this year. As a team they will hit a ton of bombs, but most will be solo shots. Typical Yankee hype.

[packerd_00]

Yankees without a doubt,it's early true but they'll have to makeup a ton of ground on the Red Sox just so they don't end up with the wild card again.

Indians aren't in terrible shape,9-7 the division is pretty much down to them and the Twins.

[Slipknot26]

Yankees
One reason
Payroll

[funnyb25]

http://www.spotrac.com/mlb/payroll/

Giants

[KVB]

It's early guys, wait for the All Star break and then you can determine who's under performing. Some teams start slow but finish strong.

I agree. In fact, get ready for the runs that a couple of those teams hit even before the break.

You can still say, to this early point, who is disappointing but even then what does that mean?

Records mean so little right now so let's look at something more meaningful from a betting perspective.

This table shows the overall money won or lost by a fan had they blindly bet to win $100 (which is a poor money management strategy when compared to a flat risk strategy, but sadly more posters will relate to the first one)…
Obviously numbers can vary from different closing lines used, but you get the idea…

Team	P & L
Boston	$892
Arizona	$834
NY Mets	$770
Atlanta	$553
LA Angels	$531
Pittsburgh	$496
Toronto	$463
Colorado	$388
Minnesota	$327
Seattle	$317
Philadelphia	$183
St. Louis	$114
Milwaukee	$76
Houston	-$84
San Francisco	-$84
Texas	-$125
Cleveland	-$207
Detroit	-$219
Oakland	-$225
Miami	-$235
Chi Cubs	-$320
Washington	-$342
NY Yankees	-$352
San Diego	-$353
LA Dodgers	-$445
Baltimore	-$576
Chi White Sox	-$587
Tampa Bay	-$804
Kansas City	-$883
Cincinnati	-$1,133

As you can see, Cincinnati is quite disappointing from a betting perspective and you can see where other teams stand relative to each other.

[KVB]

This table shows the same money for home games…

Team	P & L
Arizona	$405
Boston	$392
Atlanta	$390
Philadelphia	$251
Minnesota	$233
Seattle	$198
Toronto	$167
NY Mets	$138
Cleveland	$58
Pittsburgh	$1
Houston	-$43
LA Angels	-$59
Oakland	-$93
San Francisco	-$115
Detroit	-$193
NY Yankees	-$231
Baltimore	-$241
St. Louis	-$241
Milwaukee	-$246
Colorado	-$267
LA Dodgers	-$268
Chi Cubs	-$278
Tampa Bay	-$369
Chi White Sox	-$388
Miami	-$410
Texas	-$529
Washington	-$562
Cincinnati	-$569
Kansas City	-$604
San Diego	-$613

Those teams losing over 5 units already have been pretty disappointing to the home betting base.

[KVB]

To complete the analysis, here is the same money for away games…

Team	P & L
Colorado	$655
NY Mets	$632
LA Angels	$590
Boston	$500
Pittsburgh	$495
Arizona	$429
Texas	$404
St. Louis	$355
Milwaukee	$322
Toronto	$296
San Diego	$260
Washington	$220
Miami	$175
Atlanta	$163
Seattle	$119
Minnesota	$94
San Francisco	$31
Detroit	-$26
Houston	-$41
Chi Cubs	-$42
Philadelphia	-$68
NY Yankees	-$121
Oakland	-$132
LA Dodgers	-$177
Chi White Sox	-$199
Cleveland	-$265
Kansas City	-$279
Baltimore	-$335
Tampa Bay	-$435
Cincinnati	-$564

You can’t have disappointment without expectation. Sometimes it’s best to set the expectation based on the previous year. Are they performing better or worse at the same time of season or as a continuation of last year’s season? Offseason moves can also influence the expectation.

Understanding expectation in relation to not just money but any relevant stats and then monitoring the status is a great way to see where a team has been and can also signal turning points and where a team is headed.

I don’t know about you, but any indicators of where a team is headed or its future performance is always welcome in my betting lab.

[funnyb25]

[DiggityDaggityDo]

All teams mentioned above could use this girl on the mound.

She has a fukkin arm!

[RangeFinder]

K,

One thing you didn't mention is some of those teams that have under performed are ones that should be looked at for value being the public will shun those teams. Also, fading the ones that have over performed.

[KVB]

K,

One thing you didn't mention is some of those teams that have under performed are ones that should be looked at for value being the public will shun those teams. Also, fading the ones that have over performed.

Agreed. It's not just the money, major commonly used stats too. Together they sway the market just enough to give some of that value before the market catches up. Then on to the next team or factor.

[KVB]

All teams mentioned above could use this girl on the mound.

She has a fukkin arm!

He went down, and then really got pissed.

[funnyb25]

Did he slip and get embarrassed? Wtf was that?

[DiggityDaggityDo]

All he wanted to do was giver her her shoes back.

Then she turned into Roger Clemons.

[Shute]

Asshole needs to get bitch slapped in prison where he belongs

[Mr KLC]

Astros. They should have already won the division by now.

[funnyb25]

Astros. They should have already won the division by now.

[BigDofBA]

Yankees.

Why did they get rid of Girardi?