I hate to say it but James is better than Jordan

[ikid2groove415]

Jordan is the GOAT
James not far behind

Jordan is more legendary
Bigger name and brand

It is an identity for people 33-50 years old who dont want to let go and wear their windbreaker jackets from the 90s to work with mullets

James best in last 20 years

Jordan was smart enough not to get into politics -

[ikid2groove415]

Seaweed who do you like today PAL? =}

[jizay]

Anyone who think this warriors team would beat Jordan's bulls is high on something imo.
Who's Green bullying around? KD will seriously match-up with Jordan like he did LeBron?
Don't be fooled, LeBron isn't playing any superior team than Jordan did.

This doesn't make sense. You're saying LeBron didn't play tougher teams than Jordan, but you're comparing GS to the Bulls, not to the teams the Bulls played. I'll say two things. It's completely obvious the Bulls never faced a team as good as GSW. Break that down any way you want. They never faced a team nearly as good as the Spurs, either. If you think they did, name it.

Second thing: yes, GSW could beat those Bulls. That's not obvious, but they have the right talent to do it. Nobody would shut Jordan down, but GSW has guys to throw at him, including and especially Durant, that would bother him. Hard to compare across eras, but these guys are just better than the players in the 90s, and GSW is something we've never seen before.

[ikid2groove415]

This doesn't make sense. You're saying LeBron didn't play tougher teams than Jordan, but you're comparing GS to the Bulls, not to the teams the Bulls played. I'll say two things. It's completely obvious the Bulls never faced a team as good as GSW. Break that down any way you want. They never faced a team nearly as good as the Spurs, either. If you think they did, name it.

Second thing: yes, GSW could beat those Bulls. That's not obvious, but they have the right talent to do it. Nobody would shut Jordan down, but GSW has guys to throw at him, including and especially Durant, that would bother him. Hard to compare across eras, but these guys are just better than the players in the 90s, and GSW is something we've never seen before.

The mail men and Stockton couldn’t beat the spurs?

[dlunc3]

LeBron's problem is simple. He has lost too many finals. You can't be called the goat and lose 5 finals. LeBron is a legend and top 5 all time.

Jordan NEVER lost in the finals. The people who love James point out how Jordan lost some first round series. That is all they have. They make so many excuses for James. No excuses to be made for Mike. When he got to the finals he won. Every time.

So this doesn’t matter at all?

https://www.scoopnest.com/user/ESPNStatsInfo/875027874797039616

What’s worse, getting to the finals and losing? Or losing in the first round and not even getting the opportunity to lose in the finals?

[ikid2groove415]

So this doesn’t matter at all?

https://www.scoopnest.com/user/ESPNStatsInfo/875027874797039616

What’s worse, getting to the finals and losing? Or losing in the first round and not even getting the opportunity to lose in the finals?

So your basically saying wild card is the same level as the Super Bowl?

[lakerboy]

So this doesn’t matter at all?

https://www.scoopnest.com/user/ESPNStatsInfo/875027874797039616

What’s worse, getting to the finals and losing? Or losing in the first round and not even getting the opportunity to lose in the finals?

I respect people that go to finals and win. Every time. If you are going there win otherwise don't go.

[JIBBBY]

These playoffs are making a good statement for Lebron being the best ever.. Dude is playing out of his mind.. Most impressive..

Then again Raptors aren't exactly putting up much resistance on Defense.. Smaller defenders and not double teaming Lebron is making it easier for him to go off...

[jtoler]

So this doesn’t matter at all?

https://www.scoopnest.com/user/ESPNStatsInfo/875027874797039616

What’s worse, getting to the finals and losing? Or losing in the first round and not even getting the opportunity to lose in the finals?

Thats very misleading, its postseason stats. Not the season. Heck the Pacers only game up 95 ppg this postseason, 6 pts better than anybody else, but theyre sitting at home right now.

[lakerboy]

Current era is Brady and LeBron. 8-8

My era was Montana and Jordan. 10-0.

Current era folks don't like perfection.

[jtoler]

These playoffs are making a good statement for Lebron being the best ever.. Dude is playing out of his mind.. Most impressive..

Then again Raptors aren't exactly putting up much resistance on Defense.. Smaller defenders and not double teaming Lebron is making it easier for him to go off...

Youre right they arnt, Bron is able to do what he wants on offense and shooters have good looks.

[dlunc3]

So your basically saying wild card is the same level as the Super Bowl?

That’s basically what you are saying. Jordan lost in the playoffs 6 times and didn’t even have the opportunity to lose in the finals. What you are saying is that it’s better to lose in the wildcard than to make it to and lose in the super bowl

[nyplayer33]

Winning a team sport is not about one player. The final numbers Jordan had dont make him better then James NY itself. Bulls were always favorites vs any team they played. James vs golden state is a huge huge task. To you jordan backers...jordans supporting cast was better then lebrons the last few years. Pippen..kerr..bJ armstrong....those role players made countless shots. James has a bunch of stiffs on cavs..Kevin Love is a waste

[dlunc3]

I respect people that go to finals and win. Every time. If you are going there win otherwise don't go.

So coming in 10th is better than coming in 2nd? Yea, that makes a lot of sense. All of those guys with silver metals in the Olympics should earn no respect over those bums that finished at the bottom.

Eli Manning is a better quarterback than jim Kelly, right?

[jtoler]

I think Durant gets too much praise, he's not the same player he used to be imo and even then he didnt drive enough. All he does these days really is shoot jumpers he's just not a hard person to stay in front of he's just so long that guys cant bother his shot all that much. Watch him today, they surely didnt need him coming to their team and were fine without him.

[ikid2groove415]

I think Durant gets too much praise, he's not the same player he used to be imo and even then he didnt drive enough. All he does these days really is shoot jumpers he's just not a hard person to stay in front of he's just so long that guys cant bother his shot all that much. Watch him today, they surely didnt need him coming to their team and were fine without him.

LOL- Durant game is better now then when he was at OKC - of course GSW needed him - did you see what he did in the finals last year?

[ikid2groove415]

So coming in 10th is better than coming in 2nd? Yea, that makes a lot of sense. All of those guys with silver metals in the Olympics should earn no respect over those bums that finished at the bottom.

Eli Manning is a better quarterback than jim Kelly, right?

Eli wins big games

[dlunc3]

Eli wins big games

So therefore he’s better right? And he’s also better than his brother, bc 2-0 is better than 2-2.

[ikid2groove415]

So therefore he’s better right?

As a fan you want stats or championship?

[dlunc3]

As a fan you want stats or championship?

I want a guy that gives his team a chance to win it every year regardless of the guys around him

[jtoler]

Jordan made it to the playoffs every year with the Bulls from his rookie season on and was simply outmanned early in his career and losing to the Pistons and Celtics, great teams. Bron 1st made it to playoffs in his 3rd season and has lost to the likes of the Magic and Mavericks. Before Magic series Cavs were odds on favs to win the title and Heat were -180 to beat the Mavs in Finals.

[lakerboy]

I want a guy that gives his team a chance to win it every year regardless of the guys around him

The cavs have no chance vs state. You don't know that?

[jtoler]

LOL- Durant game is better now then when he was at OKC - of course GSW needed him - did you see what he did in the finals last year?

they won without him they didnt "need" him. he becomes good insurance though if klay or steph gets injured as we see steph now.

[dlunc3]

All I’m saying is that you can’t simply not count jordans 6 early round exists. And then say that it’s better than if he would have gone to the finals all of those years and finished 6-6 in the finals instead of 6-0. 6-6 would hands down have been way better

[jtoler]

All I’m saying is that you can’t simply not count jordans 6 early round exists. And then say that it’s better than if he would have gone to the finals all of those years and finished 6-6 in the finals instead of 6-0. 6-6 would hands down have been way better

Sure you can, just look at the rosters. Its that simple.

[JIBBBY]

I still take Jordan over Lebron in his prime.. Dude just won championships.. Willed his team to win in the playoffs.. Really got on roll players in the locker room.. That's why I take Jordan over Lebron.. Jordan got more out his teammates then Lebron...

Better team leader in other words.. Jordan threatened to beat up players if they got lazy or didn't give %100..

[ikid2groove415]

I have said it before - I have nothing but respect for lebron- going draw the LINE when you clowns say he’s better then MJ

[dlunc3]

And let’s not act like lebron is done. He’s already accomplished as much as Jordan and he’s still playing the best basketball of his career. If he goes to a team like Houston Philly or Boston Celtics next year he wins the next 3 rings no problem and puts himself in a league of his own

[A4K]

And let’s not act like lebron is done. He’s already accomplished as much as Jordan and he’s still playing the best basketball of his career. If he goes to a team like Houston Philly or Boston Celtics next year he wins the next 3 rings no problem and puts himself in a league of his own

When did LeBron lead 6 teams to a title?

[dlunc3]

Sure you can, just look at the rosters. Its that simple.

They were worse than the roster lebron is playing with?

[dlunc3]

When did LeBron lead 6 teams to a title?

there is more to having an accomplished career than just team accomplishments

If not, than I’ll take nick foles and Trent differ over dan Marino

[jtoler]

And let’s not act like lebron is done. He’s already accomplished as much as Jordan and he’s still playing the best basketball of his career. If he goes to a team like Houston Philly or Boston Celtics next year he wins the next 3 rings no problem and puts himself in a league of his own

He hasnt accomplished nearly as much but you bring up another knock on Bron and that is hopping to other teams and forming teams. I hope the history books dont leave that part out. Hopping to Sixers, Rockets, or Celtics is weak.

[ikid2groove415]

And let’s not act like lebron is done. He’s already accomplished as much as Jordan and he’s still playing the best basketball of his career. If he goes to a team like Houston Philly or Boston Celtics next year he wins the next 3 rings no problem and puts himself in a league of his own

Of course he’s not done - roids/hgh

[A4K]

there is more to having an accomplished career than just team accomplishments

If not, than I’ll take nick foles and Trent differ over dan Marino

You are the one who claimed LeBron has already matched Jordan's accomplishments. I merely pointed out that you are incredibly wrong. Like 3 championships wrong.

[dlunc3]

He hasnt accomplished nearly as much but you bring up another knock on Bron and that is hopping to other teams and forming teams. I hope the history books dont leave that part out. Hopping to Sixers, Rockets, or Celtics is weak.

Did Jordan not have the 2nd best player in the league on his team? The best euro on his team? Best rebounder on his team? Best shooter on his team? Best coach on his team? Which one of those does lebron have? Of course he wouldn’t leave if he had all of that. Jordan would have left as well.