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  • kmarinouofm
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    • 01-26-09
    • 8437

    #36
    did you cosign his bets or something? is this some type of Sallie Mae loan or someshit?
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    • Daniel Skowron
      SBR Hustler
      • 11-21-17
      • 83

      #37
      Originally posted by kmarinouofm
      did you cosign his bets or something? is this some type of Sallie Mae loan or someshit?
      No loan I did not cosign anything I never even met his bookie
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      • cincinnatikid513
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 11-23-17
        • 45360

        #38
        daniel can u confirm if you are in your mid 50's and look like viggo mortensen aSKIng for a friend
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        • robbypark
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 03-13-18
          • 794

          #39
          Hire Yakuza. No American mobsters or bookies would dare do shit if you had Yakuza watching your back.
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          • StackinGreen
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 10-09-10
            • 12140

            #40
            This has been discussed ad nauseum, you can PM me if you want to know the truth
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            • ikid2groove415
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              • 01-08-18
              • 11981

              #41
              Just ask JJ that LOL
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              • gauchojake
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                • 09-17-10
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                #42
                Thanks Andy
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                • MMANick
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                  • 12-06-16
                  • 4075

                  #43
                  I hope Daniel comes back soon... If not, we know his worst fear came to life.
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                  • StackinGreen
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                    • 10-09-10
                    • 12140

                    #44
                    JJ knows it's not worth any idiot bookies time to spend energy going after someone, just cut them off. Most are degenerates and can't stand the reality of not placing action. I'd venture to say that unless you free rolled them, it would take well into 5 figures for them to even think about doing something. It's just not worth it
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                    • El Terrible
                      SBR MVP
                      • 05-04-18
                      • 1436

                      #45
                      Originally posted by juicername
                      Why won't anyone give Daniel an honest answer?
                      I say in 99.9% of the cases....NO

                      Stiff-away!
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                      • jjgold
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 07-20-05
                        • 388179

                        #46
                        No

                        Jail
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                        • El Terrible
                          SBR MVP
                          • 05-04-18
                          • 1436

                          #47
                          Originally posted by StackinGreen
                          JJ knows it's not worth any idiot bookies time to spend energy going after someone, just cut them off. Most are degenerates and can't stand the reality of not placing action. I'd venture to say that unless you free rolled them, it would take well into 5 figures for them to even think about doing something. It's just not worth it
                          Yeah and that thing is usually a payment plan that a Walmart worker could stick too-
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                          • Biff41
                            SBR MVP
                            • 07-23-14
                            • 1234

                            #48
                            Originally posted by juicername
                            Why won't anyone give Daniel an honest answer?
                            Hit his arm with a louisville slugger and if he gets a bad bruise or worse tell him to stay away from barroom bookies.
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                            • StackinGreen
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                              • 10-09-10
                              • 12140

                              #49
                              JJ always said come to a "settlement" ... I think this could be genius for this reason: They have no bargaining power. The closure is the mental aspect of it, "At least we got something" and both parties walk away. Honestly, if its a few hundo or even thousand it's not worth their time, at all. Credit is credit, and they benefit from tilt too, so the whole thing is bullshit. Wanna get paid for sure? Make people post up. Ahh, but they want it both ways, the action and the tilt. Well, if someone doesn't have a reason or can't bet anymore, why would he associate with the same book again? Credit card companies are aware of business costs, this is just another one. They have lots of edges do the locals, here is the only place where it's small usually, but they are on the hook. As if that money was real in the first place.
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                              • pavyracer
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                                • 04-12-07
                                • 82839

                                #50
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                                • chico2663
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                                  • 09-02-10
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                                  #51
                                  I had a friend that showed up for work with a black eye. This was about 15 yrs ago. He owed his book over 10000. rooster_eater borrowed 500 from me and that is last time i heard from him. man what a dumb ass i was. his name is jeff feeney.
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                                  • chico2663
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                                    • 09-02-10
                                    • 36915

                                    #52
                                    he was into some weird betting where he would pick 8 games and rotate them in two team parlays. so it was about 56 bets in totalor 28 not sure
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                                    • Snowball
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                                      • 11-15-09
                                      • 30057

                                      #53
                                      Roger ``Crazy Roger'' Vella Jr., 34, a reputed legbreaker and debt collector for the Mafia in Philadelphia .

                                      This led to a showdown in a Brookline car dealership between Maffioli and Whitey Bulger over a large sports gambling debt owed by the owners son

                                      In August 2016, Valentini and Depergola were arrested with fellow mob crew members Gerald Daniele, Giovanni Calabrese, and Ralph Santaniello. They engaged in various criminal activities in Springfield, Massachusetts, prosecutors said, including loansharking and extortion from legitimate and illegitimate businesses, such as illegal gambling businesses, and the collection of unlawful debts

                                      Debts, threats, despair: Vaughan man's life in 'mafia-run' gambling ...

                                      Bookie Tied to Mob Found Dead 2 Days After Brooklyn DA Raids ...

                                      there's more, no time..
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                                      • jjgold
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 07-20-05
                                        • 388179

                                        #54
                                        reason with them
                                        simple
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                                        • StackinGreen
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 10-09-10
                                          • 12140

                                          #55
                                          Snowball what's your analysis?
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                                          • StackinGreen
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                                            • 10-09-10
                                            • 12140

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by jjgold
                                            reason with them
                                            simple
                                            What does that mean gold. If you got nothing, they get nothing, doesn't really matter, am I wrong

                                            As I've always said, it's a two way street. You don't get to benefit from credit, tilt, chasing, the vig, etc without some minor cost. Stiffing is the business cost. So you better understand that and be aware. They know that most guys can't stand to not bet, so they have them on the hook. As for those that just give it up, ehh, that's how it goes. Again, it's as if that were real money to begin with. Gimme a break.

                                            If you extend a guy to an amount that "hurts" you, it's your fault. The whiners just cry about honor or some BS (these same guys limit you, increase juice here and there without you knowing, so they can win more, lol) , if they wanted to get guaranteed payments they'd say, post up. But they don't. I wonder why.
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                                            • eidolon
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 01-02-08
                                              • 9531

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by Daniel Skowron
                                              Is it really like in the movies?
                                              Not if you get to them first.
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                                              • JIBBBY
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                                                • 12-10-09
                                                • 83686

                                                #58
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                                                • chico2663
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                                                  • 09-02-10
                                                  • 36915

                                                  #59
                                                  there is a certain coach in ohio. Whose brother is a big welch. He worked at a car dealership and did what harvey keital did in the movie "bad lieutenant"
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                                                  • TheSchafe
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 12-29-09
                                                    • 2143

                                                    #60
                                                    There's usually an intimidating person or two on your payroll so you don't get your hands dirty yourself.
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                                                    • TheMetsSuck
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                                                      • 01-14-12
                                                      • 6146

                                                      #61
                                                      95% wont do shit. you really need to know to lose big to the wrong mfer to be in a world of hurt if u stiff like in the movies. If you are gambling with that kind of bookie I'd advise a payment plan rather than ghosting.
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                                                      • Grits n' Gravy
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 06-10-10
                                                        • 13024

                                                        #62




                                                        According to older guys who passed this story down to me, Fisher got killed over offshore gambling debts. All involved were apparently scumbags. I don’t remember all the details but the article is detailed.

                                                        baldy and the over 45 crowd may have known these guys.
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                                                        • HurryUpAndDrink
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 08-23-13
                                                          • 13017

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by TheMetsSuck
                                                          95% wont do shit. you really need to know to lose big to the wrong mfer to be in a world of hurt if u stiff like in the movies. If you are gambling with that kind of bookie I'd advise a payment plan rather than ghosting.
                                                          this, most all big talk, none really gonna do shit...

                                                          had one bookie that works for a recognized offshore mickey mouse shop threaten me lol, 1st off settle date was 1 week after and he comes to the poker table and mentions the outstanding balance in front of everybody... like wtf is not even settle date, then my friend who introduced us tells me guys owes him $800 and is not paying (i owed him $150)... long story short I give the $150 to my friend and tell the bookie he now only owes $650 to my pal lol... guy goes nuts and threatens me... sends they really good at finding people and collecting, I lol and tell him "do your worse!"

                                                          I basically tell him if I hear one more of shit of his wrinkled pathetic ass im gonna basically kill him, not talk, not say anything more, im gonna take action and fukk him up, guy proceeds to tell me he ratted me to OIJ (CR's FBI) and that I will hear for them and then blocks me from facebook lol...

                                                          OIJ never contacts me and I bumped into him outside the poker room, guy goes away scared before I have the chance to slap him, hilarious. GOOD TIMES.
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                                                          • jjgold
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 07-20-05
                                                            • 388179

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by HurryUpAndDrink
                                                            this, most all big talk, none really gonna do shit...

                                                            had one bookie that works for a recognized offshore mickey mouse shop threaten me lol, 1st off settle date was 1 week after and he comes to the poker table and mentions the outstanding balance in front of everybody... like wtf is not even settle date, then my friend who introduced us tells me guys owes him $800 and is not paying (i owed him $150)... long story short I give the $150 to my friend and tell the bookie he now only owes $650 to my pal lol... guy goes nuts and threatens me... sends they really good at finding people and collecting, I lol and tell him "do your worse!"



                                                            I basically tell him if I hear one more of shit of his wrinkled pathetic ass im gonna basically kill him, not talk, not say anything more, im gonna take action and fukk him up, guy proceeds to tell me he ratted me to OIJ (CR's FBI) and that I will hear for them and then blocks me from facebook lol...

                                                            OIJ never contacts me and I bumped into him outside the poker room, guy goes away scared before I have the chance to slap him, hilarious. GOOD TIMES.
                                                            that usually works actually..nobody wants to deal with a crazy nut

                                                            Now if this was the 70' and 80's NY/NJ/Phila area you could be in deep trouble
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                                                            • jts1207
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 12-15-16
                                                              • 8011

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by HurryUpAndDrink
                                                              this, most all big talk, none really gonna do shit...

                                                              had one bookie that works for a recognized offshore mickey mouse shop threaten me lol, 1st off settle date was 1 week after and he comes to the poker table and mentions the outstanding balance in front of everybody... like wtf is not even settle date, then my friend who introduced us tells me guys owes him $800 and is not paying (i owed him $150)... long story short I give the $150 to my friend and tell the bookie he now only owes $650 to my pal lol... guy goes nuts and threatens me... sends they really good at finding people and collecting, I lol and tell him "do your worse!"

                                                              I basically tell him if I hear one more of shit of his wrinkled pathetic ass im gonna basically kill him, not talk, not say anything more, im gonna take action and fukk him up, guy proceeds to tell me he ratted me to OIJ (CR's FBI) and that I will hear for them and then blocks me from facebook lol...

                                                              OIJ never contacts me and I bumped into him outside the poker room, guy goes away scared before I have the chance to slap him, hilarious. GOOD TIMES.
                                                              The fairytale continues lol
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                                                              • firedawg
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 10-08-08
                                                                • 39219

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by HurryUpAndDrink
                                                                this, most all big talk, none really gonna do shit...

                                                                had one bookie that works for a recognized offshore mickey mouse shop threaten me lol, 1st off settle date was 1 week after and he comes to the poker table and mentions the outstanding balance in front of everybody... like wtf is not even settle date, then my friend who introduced us tells me guys owes him $800 and is not paying (i owed him $150)... long story short I give the $150 to my friend and tell the bookie he now only owes $650 to my pal lol... guy goes nuts and threatens me... sends they really good at finding people and collecting, I lol and tell him "do your worse!"

                                                                I basically tell him if I hear one more of shit of his wrinkled pathetic ass im gonna basically kill him, not talk, not say anything more, im gonna take action and fukk him up, guy proceeds to tell me he ratted me to OIJ (CR's FBI) and that I will hear for them and then blocks me from facebook lol...

                                                                OIJ never contacts me and I bumped into him outside the poker room, guy goes away scared before I have the chance to slap him, hilarious. GOOD TIMES.
                                                                JFC this clown
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                                                                • HurryUpAndDrink
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 08-23-13
                                                                  • 13017

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                  that usually works actually..nobody wants to deal with a crazy nut

                                                                  Now if this was the 70' and 80's NY/NJ/Phila area you could be in deep trouble
                                                                  the guy works/worked for America's Bookie lololololo still have the convo recorded on fb

                                                                  and yeah I know this is not something u do with anybody, I just measured him up, I knew he was a coward by the way he behaved w my friend slowpaying him for $800 lol
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                                                                  • jjgold
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                                    • 388179

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Hurry your a killer and he knew it

                                                                    I bet you have blown guys heads off down in CR

                                                                    I would not fuk with you
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                                                                    • HurryUpAndDrink
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 08-23-13
                                                                      • 13017

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                      Hurry your a killer and he knew it

                                                                      I bet you have blown guys heads off down in CR

                                                                      I would not fuk with you
                                                                      JJ, he was wise in a way, thats why he is still alive
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                                                                      • grease lightnin
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 10-01-12
                                                                        • 16015

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by semibluff
                                                                        Don't worry Daniel Skowron. He'll never find you.

                                                                        beenverified.com/people/daniel-skowron/



                                                                        The OP is trying to bury someone.
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