Dow us CRASHING HARD!!!

[vitterd]

Hillary made the case many times including the debates there was no reason to pursue growth, the country was fine the way it is. She had zero economic growth plans.

This is my favorite part about the Trump agenda. We all know Obama averaged 1.6% growth. The last 3 qtrs averaged 2.8%. But every quarter in '18 will be above 3%. That's the number we need to keep wages rising and brings billions more in to the treasury. We will revisit this after q1.

Careful with your predictions Roy....last time you were touting the stock market it took a huge Brooksy.

[jt315]

Careful with your predictions Roy....last time you were touting the stock market it took a huge Brooksy.

We know what happened with your Hillary 2016 prediction . LMAO .

[vitterd]

We know what happened with your Hillary 2016 prediction . LMAO .

You and all your ghosts predicted Clinton as well. I was the only one that said it would be close.

Remember 2012 when you said Romney would win? Lmao!!

[jt315]

You and all your ghosts predicted Clinton as well. I was the only one that said it would be close.

Remember 2012 when you said Romney would win? Lmao!!

Your ghost stories are as believable as your million dollar poker winnings stories .

[vitterd]

Your ghost stories are as believable as your million dollar poker winnings stories .

Still trying to make that stick here? Nobody jumping on board.

You were caught talking to yourself thru your ghosts. It doesn’t get more pathetic than that.

Go help BAS.....he’s still trying to figure out the under siege debacle!! Bwaaaaahhhh

[jt315]

Still trying to make that stick here? Nobody jumping on board.

You were caught talking to yourself thru your ghosts. It doesn’t get more pathetic than that.

Go help BAS.....he’s still trying to figure out the under siege debacle!! Bwaaaaahhhh

Oh yeah I forgot . I'm dlowilly . Try selling that one dumb ass.

[vitterd]

Oh yeah I forgot . I'm dlowilly . Try selling that one dumb ass.

You are over 30 people at 4 sites....different names everywhere.

Afraid to reveal your other anonymous names on an anonymous website. Lmfao.

Only a tin foil hat alt right winger could do something that pathetic!

[jt315]

You are over 30 people at 4 sites....different names everywhere.

Afraid to reveal your other anonymous names on an anonymous website. Lmfao.

Only a tin foil hat alt right winger could do something that pathetic!

You're nothing but a dumb ass banned troll making up stories to cover your pathetic posting past .

30 ghosts . LOL !!

Go finish playing with your crayons .

[vitterd]

You're nothing but a dumb ass banned troll making up stories to cover your pathetic posting past .

30 ghosts . LOL !!

Go finish playing with your crayons .

You have many names banned. You just come back with new ones.

How’s the graveyard?? Lmao. Since I left it’s DEAD!!

Scared of revealing an anonymous name on an anonymous forum. How pathetic can you be???

If I felt I need to cover up posting past....I’d just use another name....like you!! But I’m not a beta man like you!! Scared to death of vitterd!!!

[Thor4140]

You have to love the Trump Zombies who say "this was expected the stock market is correcting itself" Im sure all these douchebags portfolios show they invested in this correction they proudly predicted after the fact. Jibby talking about buying in when he owns no stocks. lol. Kraken like the rest of us thinking Jibby owns stocks because the way he was talking and calls him on it LMFAO. Jibby say's he is a man of the truth lol.

[Thor4140]

Still trying to make that stick here? Nobody jumping on board.

You were caught talking to yourself thru your ghosts. It doesn’t get more pathetic than that.

Go help BAS.....he’s still trying to figure out the under siege debacle!! Bwaaaaahhhh

When he got talking to himself thru his ghost was one of them getting the upper hand?

[pavyracer]

You have to love the Trump Zombies who say "this was expected the stock market is correcting itself" Im sure all these douchebags portfolios show they invested in this correction they proudly predicted after the fact. Jibby talking about buying in when he owns no stocks. lol. Kraken like the rest of us thinking Jibby owns stocks because the way he was talking and calls him on it LMFAO. Jibby say's he is a man of the truth lol.

People who buy stocks knew that the run up of the stocks was due to the expected tax cuts. Once the tax cuts passed everyone sold off. You buy the rumor and you sell the news.

[KRIT]

The fact is most people in this thread probably don't even have any money in the stock market, and if they do it is probably like $100 lol.

[RoyBacon]

Careful with your predictions Roy....last time you were touting the stock market it took a huge Brooksy.

Last time was yesterday..great day, thanks.

I'm on record for 3%+ growth from the Trump Train. A good chance for 4% which the last year we saw that was probably before you were born(1999).

That would be 2.5x Obama's avg and 2x higher than even the CBO projects. Going to be sweet. Repubs and Dems celebrating on the Trump Train!

[PAULYPOKER]

If you people think that the sitting POTUS has anything to do with the stock market you are
text book retarded...

[dante1]

If you people think that the sitting POTUS has anything to do with the stock market you are
text book retarded...

wait, are you sure about this? hmmm, I was positive, extremely positive that somehow or someway this recent drop in the market was caused by Obama and the D's. I am almost positive he had some hand in this. In fact, I thought I heard DT mention it. I may be wrong.

[guitarjosh]

A bear market is a 20% decline. The S&P 500 market traded in bear territory on Oct 4th of 2011, but it rallied 4% in the last hour of trading, and therefore it was not a technical bear market.

In developed and emerging international markets there was a bear market 2014-q1 2016, but US markets haven’t seen a bear since the financial crisis.

So you're admitting that S&P dropped 20% but that isn't a bear market because it didn't close down at least 20%?

[dante1]

Last time was yesterday..great day, thanks.

I'm on record for 3%+ growth from the Trump Train. A good chance for 4% which the last year we saw that was probably before you were born(1999).

That would be 2.5x Obama's avg and 2x higher than even the CBO projects. Going to be sweet. Repubs and Dems celebrating on the Trump Train!

Poor Roy always writing about what he THINKS is going to happen. Wasn't Roy one of the same individuals giving DT credit for the recent rise in the stock market. Yeah, I think so. He never mentioned once that Obama had a better first year stock market record than DT. That part he forgot about.

Our mr Roy is another guy that has problems with inconvenient facts, he will be one of the first to disappear in two or three years, because he still believes in trickle down. He is gone--watch.

[PAULYPOKER]

The only people who have anything to do with stock market manipulation and crashes are the people who profit from the stock market manipulation and crashes.........

Holy fukk, is your memories from 2008 covered with marshmallows, strawberries and lollipops?

[DwightShrute]

the US might hit 5% GDP in 2018

[dante1]

The only people who have anything to do with stock market manipulation and crashes are the people who profit from the stock market manipulation and crashes.........

Holy fukk, is your memories from 2008 covered with marshmallows, strawberries and lollipops?

you do know sarcasm, right?

[dante1]

the US might hit 5% GDP in 2018

guy doesn't know what GDP means, he read this somewhere and thought hmmm let me see will this make me sound smart.

Dwightie, tell us in your own words what exactly is GDP, how is it related to population and productivity and why is it important. Go ahead, you're a smart guy, Answer.

Noting my friends, much like his twin when asked a question no response. Even though the question has everything to do with what he just posted.

[grease lightnin]

So you're admitting that S&P dropped 20% but that isn't a bear market because it didn't close down at least 20%?

Admitting? It is a fact.


That is correct. It was not a bear market. This is a widely understood FACT. Look it up.

[DwightShrute]

guy doesn't know what GDP means, he read this somewhere and thought hmmm let me see will this make me sound smart.

Dwightie, tell us in your own words what exactly is GDP, how is it related to population and productivity and why is it important. Go ahead, you're a smart guy, Answer.

Noting my friends, much like his twin when asked a question no response. Even though the question has everything to do with what he just posted.

[grease lightnin]

Hillary made the case many times including the debates there was no reason to pursue growth, the country was fine the way it is. She had zero economic growth plans.

This is my favorite part about the Trump agenda. We all know Obama averaged 1.6% growth. The last 3 qtrs averaged 2.8%. But every quarter in '18 will be above 3%. That's the number we need to keep wages rising and brings billions more in to the treasury. We will revisit this after q1.

I am not gonna defend Hillary Clinton even though I know she did not say that.



Its funny you, just like Trump, think you can just say the words “3% growth” and it will magically happen.


I hope we get 3%, but the data says it is highly unlikely.

[dante1]

and for at least the 100th time he again proves that he knows nothing about everything. The subject doesn't matter, not at all. It today is economics, but it could easily be history, politics, religion, English, philosophy, psychology, any discipline at all. I have gone up and down dozens of subjects and this lad and his twin have no answers. They have a ton of comments, a bunch of BS like the above, they make statements like (5% GDP) but when asked to explain or clarify those comments...nothing, nothing at all.

[dante1]

I am not gonna defend Hillary Clinton even though I know she did not say that.



Its funny you, just like Trump, think you can just say the words “3% growth” and it will magically happen.


I hope we get 3%, but the data says it is highly unlikely.

economists on the left and right both agree that high yearly growth may be too much to ask in the relatively new world economic scene we are now witnessing. It is easy to say 4 and 5% growth and it would be nice but my money goes with the economists and not the dwighties and roys.

[dante1]

I am not gonna defend Hillary Clinton even though I know she did not say that.



Its funny you, just like Trump, think you can just say the words “3% growth” and it will magically happen.


I hope we get 3%, but the data says it is highly unlikely.

that is exactly what they do, they simply print what they hope and think might happen and when it doesn't they disappear. these people still buy into trickle down, they call it a different name now but it is the same exact philosophy.

[rkelly110]

and for at least the 100th time he again proves that he knows nothing about everything. The subject doesn't matter, not at all. It today is economics, but it could easily be history, politics, religion, English, philosophy, psychology, any discipline at all. I have gone up and down dozens of subjects and this lad and his twin have no answers. They have a ton of comments, a bunch of BS like the above, they make statements like (5% GDP) but when asked to explain or clarify those comments...nothing, nothing at all.

Have no fear. With people like your costa rican pal, they will have their Q tips at the ready to help clean every
wrinkle of Trump poo.

[RoyBacon]

economists on the left and right both agree that high yearly growth may be too much to ask in the relatively new world economic scene we are now witnessing. It is easy to say 4 and 5% growth and it would be nice but my money goes with the economists and not the dwighties and roys.

The way dante explains it was Hillary's take. She defended Obama's growth. Her and dante may be right. We haven't seen a 4% year since the 1990's.

Chuck Shumer claimed the CBO's 2% estimate was too high. That's scary. However, the jump in the wages number is a tell-tale sign. I think it's happening, 3+%.

One thing is for sure if we can get solid growth it will help both sides of the aisle.(the one thing we can agree on)

[guitarjosh]

The way dante explains it was Hillary's take. She defended Obama's growth. Her and dante may be right. We haven't seen a 4% year since the 1990's.

Chuck Shumer claimed the CBO's 2% estimate was too high. That's scary. However, the jump in the wages number is a tell-tale sign. I think it's happening, 3+%.

One thing is for sure if we can get solid growth it will help both sides of the aisle.(the one thing we can agree on)

Actually in 2003 we averaged 4.4% growth, over 3% in 2004, 3% in 2005.

[thellama]

Good, time to buy!

[RoyBacon]

Actually in 2003 we averaged 4.4% growth, over 3% in 2004, 3% in 2005.

I see 3.8% in calendar year '04, less in '03.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/188165/annual-gdp-growth-of-the-united-states-since-1990/

Close enough and safe to say we haven't had much of any real growth in a very long time.

dante, everyone that disagrees with you has a problem with the facts. Of course Trump is responsible for the market rise. The spike in wages is responsible for the pullback. Been constantly telling you since Moby Dick was a minnow we need rising wages. We just got the largest rise in wages in 9 years. So I would argue the plan is working perfectly so far.

[guitarjosh]

I see 3.8% in calendar year '04, less in '03.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/188165/annual-gdp-growth-of-the-united-states-since-1990/

Close enough and safe to say we haven't had much of any real growth in a very long time.

dante, everyone that disagrees with you has a problem with the facts. Of course Trump is responsible for the market rise. The spike in wages is responsible for the pullback. Been constantly telling you since Moby Dick was a minnow we need rising wages. We just got the largest rise in wages in 9 years. So I would argue the plan is working perfectly so far.

Just a different source, I use Tradingeconomics.com.

One thing to look at when comparing the stock market performance under Obama and Trump is that Obama had QE 1, 2, 3, Operation Twist & record low interest rates. The reason we had QE 2, 3, & OT is because the economy and market performed so poorly without those things. If you take QE 2, 3, & OT and rumors of those programs out, the stock market actually declined under Obama. From 10-30-14, the first day since QE 3 ended until 11-08-16, the S&P returned 7.93%. Since 11-09-16, the S&P has risen 22.43%, with higher interest rates.

[RoyBacon]

Good point on the artificial gains due to QE trickery.

Stocks are still expensive even with the backdrop of real growth. Even a great company like CAT is trading at over 12x 2021's estimated earnings. That's a lot of skin to grow into.