Who watched JoeIngram1's video?
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RudyRuetiggerSBR Aristocracy
- 08-24-10
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#36Comment -
RudyRuetiggerSBR Aristocracy
- 08-24-10
- 65084
#37
very sad
you do know the best humans lost to bots in heads up matches
who are you to draw the line between what is a good bot and a bad bot?Comment -
OptionalAdministrator
- 06-10-10
- 61396
#38
But he said the site operators knowingly allowed collusion, and that they deployed superuser accounts.
If you are posting with him, tell him to pull that evidence out of his hours of research, or even bloody explain the circumstantial evidence he sees for this? Apart from losing to them, which is the only thing I saw him say in the vid.
Carrying on about botting is just him obfuscating about the real claim he made. Make the prick back that up over there Rudy!
And maybe ask him why one day he talks collusion and super users and then the very next day posts this on twitter? https://twitter.com/Joeingram1/statu...7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Guy's either a crackhead, a fool, or a liar. No real other options left I am afraid Rudy... whatever is happening at ACR with bots..Comment -
RudyRuetiggerSBR Aristocracy
- 08-24-10
- 65084
#39If he had made a video about botting, we could talk about that.
But he said the site operators knowingly allowed collusion, and that they deployed superuser accounts.
If you are posting with him, tell him to pull that evidence out of his hours of research, or even bloody explain the circumstantial evidence he sees for this? Apart from losing to them, which is the only thing I saw him say in the vid.
Carrying on about botting is just him obfuscating about the real claim he made. Make the prick back that up over there Rudy!
And maybe ask him why one day he talks collusion and super users and then the very next day posts this on twitter? https://twitter.com/Joeingram1/statu...7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Guy's either a crackhead, a fool, or a liar. No real other options left I am afraid Rudy... whatever is happening at ACR with bots.
he is replying to doyle fukkin Brunson and never denied what he said in the video
optional you are terrible at poker, do you just want to argue with me or what?
I only asked what people thought of it.
you denying it 100% is just as bad as him saying there are superusers, except he has played millions of hands online and at high stakes. what have you done besides make the top 100 at sbrpoker?Comment -
SharpAnglesSBR Hall of Famer
- 04-15-14
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#40Rudy you really think they’ve got players using Libratus to beat micro stakes on ACR?!
Opti is obviously right, this clown lost his ass so blamed bots and super users, got called out for this nonsense then backtracks with the stale “but bots though” while conveniently forgetting about the much more severe super user allegations.
It’s the tale as old as online poker. If I lose it’s because they cheated.Comment -
RudyRuetiggerSBR Aristocracy
- 08-24-10
- 65084
#41Rudy you really think they’ve got players using Libratus to beat micro stakes on ACR?!
Opti is obviously right, this clown lost his ass so blamed bots and super users, got called out for this nonsense then backtracks with the stale “but bots though” while conveniently forgetting about the much more severe super user allegations.
It’s the tale as old as online poker. If I lose it’s because they cheated.
you both admit to bots
so that is what we all agree on
now its very fukkin odd you both say they are ok as not winning
so genius where do we draw the line 1bb/100 at 1/2?
5bb/100 at .05/.1?
your logic is flawed even in the most simplistic formComment -
OptionalAdministrator
- 06-10-10
- 61396
#42
your proof is his twitter post?
he is replying to doyle fukkin Brunson and never denied what he said in the video
optional you are terrible at poker, do you just want to argue with me or what?
I only asked what people thought of it.
you denying it 100% is just as bad as him saying there are superusers, except he has played millions of hands online and at high stakes. what have you done besides make the top 100 at sbrpoker?
Just saying that this particular guy is a prize goose.
Maybe his celebrity gives him credence over at 2+2, but not with me.
And I wish I was as good at poker as I thought I was going to be by now! Hope I am past being terrible now at least though. :P.Comment -
RudyRuetiggerSBR Aristocracy
- 08-24-10
- 65084
#43I'm not denying bots exist.
Just saying that this particular guy is a prize goose.
Maybe his celebrity gives him credence over at 2+2, but not with me.
And I wish I was as good at poker as I thought I was going to be by now! Hope I am past being terrible now at least though. :P
but I'm almost certain he has interviewed the ceo of WPN on his channel or atleast podcast???
so for him to call them out is kinda big...what other poker podcasts have his following?
I bet he could've had a sponsorship there
anyway...we all agree bots exist and you and sharp think it doesn't matter as long as they aren't good
would love to hear where you draw the line from a bot being bad and ok to be on the site to a bot being goodComment -
OptionalAdministrator
- 06-10-10
- 61396
#44
Gee, he sure seems to saying they are over and again in the vid!
And the first line of the vid description "I will talk about the cheating, botting, high stakes collusion & possible superusing that I believe to currently be taking place on the Winning Poker Network aka America's Card Room."
Don't want to argue with you Rudy, but if you are posting with him at 2+2 why not ask him to explain more about the allegations of single users allowed to hold multiple accounts and sit at same table... and more than anything, just any reason he can give to explain the SuperUSer allegation he repeats multiple times in the vid?
He says he has hours of recordings of examples of this play! Can't he show just 1 hand that he thinks shows an example of this?
He could even just explain clearly what has happened apart from he seems to lose too much and not get value bets in against one account from Turkey?
You like being the one to expose things. Go expose this guy!.Comment -
OptionalAdministrator
- 06-10-10
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#45I don't keep up with poker
but I'm almost certain he has interviewed the ceo of WPN on his channel or atleast podcast???
so for him to call them out is kinda big...what other poker podcasts have his following?
I bet he could've had a sponsorship there
anyway...we all agree bots exist and you and sharp think it doesn't matter as long as they aren't good
would love to hear where you draw the line from a bot being bad and ok to be on the site to a bot being good
I just want to know if there is ANY actual evidence, or even a clear story about a hand this guy thinks is proof of this Turkish guy he has recorded for hours being a super user or colluding!.Comment -
RudyRuetiggerSBR Aristocracy
- 08-24-10
- 65084
#46I said in my last post we cant prove anything
for the third time: we agree bots exist. two of you think that is ok as they are not big time winners
I am asking where you draw the line since you think it is ok since they do not win (you have no proof of this but I am taking your word that they do not win) so give me an idea and what winrate and at what stakes can we draw the line
THANKSComment -
firedawgBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 10-08-08
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#48Unreal
ReallyComment -
RudyRuetiggerSBR Aristocracy
- 08-24-10
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#49I fukkin made this thread days ago
what a fukkin idiotComment -
HurryUpAndDrinkSBR Posting Legend
- 08-23-13
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#51your mother is the fukkin idiot for not aborting your ass
I try as hard as I can to ignore your threads... and if you check back and see I reply to less than 30% of them
Hard to say if you are gone or self banned or crying or bitching... I frankly dont pay attention to your bitch dramaComment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
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#52lol
I am too sharp to play online pokerComment -
RudyRuetiggerSBR Aristocracy
- 08-24-10
- 65084
#55
2/02/20186:17 PMPoints transfer to sportsbook. HurryUpAndDrink SBR Sportsbook Withdraw -140.00Comment -
firedawgBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 10-08-08
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#56
You have nothing better to do than post in this place 24/7
Don’t forget my golf plays
Oops
U can’t see them
Broke fukkk non proComment -
HurryUpAndDrinkSBR Posting Legend
- 08-23-13
- 13017
#57
Making a thread pro only means I cannot post in it. But I can SEE AND TRACK.
Nice try tho... try having a brain for your next attempt at #winningComment -
firedawgBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 10-08-08
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#58Hurry should have got stiff of the year award
Steve left so Hurry was a shoe inComment -
firedawgBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 10-08-08
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#59
It’s ok
It’s a chit chat room right????
Now get back in your hut and get to sweepingComment -
unde0087BARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 03-27-08
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#60Opti, I was bored so I watched the whole vid. Not sure why because I don't play online other than SBR and that is quite enough for me. Guy shared zero evidence. Just him whining for 18 minutes. My question is, we all know most of these sites have cheaters and most of us have been in on pots or games that were blatantly rigged over the years. Not sure why anyone would play on these sites, especially if they are in a populated area, when you can go to play live.Comment -
RudyRuetiggerSBR Aristocracy
- 08-24-10
- 65084
#61Opti, I was bored so I watched the whole vid. Not sure why because I don't play online other than SBR and that is quite enough for me. Guy shared zero evidence. Just him whining for 18 minutes. My question is, we all know most of these sites have cheaters and most of us have been in on pots or games that were blatantly rigged over the years. Not sure why anyone would play on these sites, especially if they are in a populated area, when you can go to play live.
you admit you know nothing
and you are asking a guy that knows nothing
great idea fukkin idiotComment -
unde0087BARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 03-27-08
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#62This post sums up how fukin stupid or drunk you are on a daily basis. The reply makes about as much sense as that rambling school girl in the video.Comment -
OptionalAdministrator
- 06-10-10
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#63I said in my last post we cant prove anything
for the third time: we agree bots exist. two of you think that is ok as they are not big time winners
I am asking where you draw the line since you think it is ok since they do not win (you have no proof of this but I am taking your word that they do not win) so give me an idea and what winrate and at what stakes can we draw the line
THANKS
I don't know where to draw the line. And honestly I don't have much interest in playing online a lot, pretty much due to the collusion issue. Plus bots too I guess. And helper software to tell players what to do. Don't like any of it.
Personally, if I owned a poker site and it was possible to stop all bots and helper software, that's how I would like to run it.
I'd probably work out an algorithm to flag potential collusion and do all this was possible to stamp on that.
I imagine ACR want to operate something like that too.
Do you think it's possible?.Comment -
vividjohn45SBR Hall of Famer
- 11-21-10
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#64I'd like to see the proof so i am kind of disregarding this .Comment -
rm18SBR Posting Legend
- 09-20-05
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#65Some of the guys he is accusing are known players who are definitely not bots.Comment -
HurryUpAndDrinkSBR Posting Legend
- 08-23-13
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#66I really wouldn't. The source is credible.
I have suffered same thing on WPN last when I played cash early 2015. Used to play $1-$2 and $2-$4 PLO8 and NLHE.
Same players winning most sessions, if they lost it was against each other... not to mention they always cashed top $ in the rake races...
WPN sucks and has many security flaws as proven multiple times. I was able to try and use a bot at this site successfully. Anyone with half a brain could, you just buy it.
Said bot works on 888poker too.Comment -
mikejammSBR Posting Legend
- 08-24-09
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#67Wow, cheating and collusion in online poker. This idiot rants for 18 minutes (didn't even watch it all) about how fuk'ed (WPN network) America's Card Room is. Noob! Tell us something we don't know!Comment -
SharpAnglesSBR Hall of Famer
- 04-15-14
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#70I don’t think GUMMO77 plays at ACR so doubt there’s any dangerous bots over thereComment
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