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  • RudyRuetigger
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-24-10
    • 65084

    #36
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    • RudyRuetigger
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 08-24-10
      • 65084

      #37
      Originally posted by Optional
      Proof of botting or something worse like collusion or the super user thing?


      That's the big one, the company planting super users in games. That's the big allegation he made.

      Dont care about "proof" of bots personally. We all know that goes on already.
      sad

      very sad

      you do know the best humans lost to bots in heads up matches

      who are you to draw the line between what is a good bot and a bad bot?
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      • Optional
        Administrator
        • 06-10-10
        • 61396

        #38
        Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
        sad

        very sad

        you do know the best humans lost to bots in heads up matches

        who are you to draw the line between what is a good bot and a bad bot?
        If he had made a video about botting, we could talk about that.

        But he said the site operators knowingly allowed collusion, and that they deployed superuser accounts.

        If you are posting with him, tell him to pull that evidence out of his hours of research, or even bloody explain the circumstantial evidence he sees for this? Apart from losing to them, which is the only thing I saw him say in the vid.


        Carrying on about botting is just him obfuscating about the real claim he made. Make the prick back that up over there Rudy!

        And maybe ask him why one day he talks collusion and super users and then the very next day posts this on twitter? https://twitter.com/Joeingram1/statu...7Ctwgr%5Etweet


        Guy's either a crackhead, a fool, or a liar. No real other options left I am afraid Rudy... whatever is happening at ACR with bots.
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        • RudyRuetigger
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 08-24-10
          • 65084

          #39
          Originally posted by Optional
          If he had made a video about botting, we could talk about that.

          But he said the site operators knowingly allowed collusion, and that they deployed superuser accounts.

          If you are posting with him, tell him to pull that evidence out of his hours of research, or even bloody explain the circumstantial evidence he sees for this? Apart from losing to them, which is the only thing I saw him say in the vid.


          Carrying on about botting is just him obfuscating about the real claim he made. Make the prick back that up over there Rudy!

          And maybe ask him why one day he talks collusion and super users and then the very next day posts this on twitter? https://twitter.com/Joeingram1/statu...7Ctwgr%5Etweet


          Guy's either a crackhead, a fool, or a liar. No real other options left I am afraid Rudy... whatever is happening at ACR with bots.
          your proof is his twitter post?

          he is replying to doyle fukkin Brunson and never denied what he said in the video

          optional you are terrible at poker, do you just want to argue with me or what?

          I only asked what people thought of it.

          you denying it 100% is just as bad as him saying there are superusers, except he has played millions of hands online and at high stakes. what have you done besides make the top 100 at sbrpoker?
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          • SharpAngles
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 04-15-14
            • 9467

            #40
            Originally posted by RudyRuetigger

            you do know the best humans lost to bots in heads up matches
            Rudy you really think they’ve got players using Libratus to beat micro stakes on ACR?!

            Opti is obviously right, this clown lost his ass so blamed bots and super users, got called out for this nonsense then backtracks with the stale “but bots though” while conveniently forgetting about the much more severe super user allegations.

            It’s the tale as old as online poker. If I lose it’s because they cheated.
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            • RudyRuetigger
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 08-24-10
              • 65084

              #41
              Originally posted by SharpAngles
              Rudy you really think they’ve got players using Libratus to beat micro stakes on ACR?!

              Opti is obviously right, this clown lost his ass so blamed bots and super users, got called out for this nonsense then backtracks with the stale “but bots though” while conveniently forgetting about the much more severe super user allegations.

              It’s the tale as old as online poker. If I lose it’s because they cheated.
              you are way out of line

              you both admit to bots

              so that is what we all agree on

              now its very fukkin odd you both say they are ok as not winning

              so genius where do we draw the line 1bb/100 at 1/2?

              5bb/100 at .05/.1?

              your logic is flawed even in the most simplistic form
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              • Optional
                Administrator
                • 06-10-10
                • 61396

                #42
                Originally posted by RudyRuetigger

                your proof is his twitter post?

                he is replying to doyle fukkin Brunson and never denied what he said in the video

                optional you are terrible at poker, do you just want to argue with me or what?

                I only asked what people thought of it.

                you denying it 100% is just as bad as him saying there are superusers, except he has played millions of hands online and at high stakes. what have you done besides make the top 100 at sbrpoker?
                I'm not denying bots exist.

                Just saying that this particular guy is a prize goose.

                Maybe his celebrity gives him credence over at 2+2, but not with me.



                And I wish I was as good at poker as I thought I was going to be by now! Hope I am past being terrible now at least though. :P
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                • RudyRuetigger
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 08-24-10
                  • 65084

                  #43
                  Originally posted by Optional
                  I'm not denying bots exist.

                  Just saying that this particular guy is a prize goose.

                  Maybe his celebrity gives him credence over at 2+2, but not with me.



                  And I wish I was as good at poker as I thought I was going to be by now! Hope I am past being terrible now at least though. :P
                  I don't keep up with poker

                  but I'm almost certain he has interviewed the ceo of WPN on his channel or atleast podcast???

                  so for him to call them out is kinda big...what other poker podcasts have his following?

                  I bet he could've had a sponsorship there

                  anyway...we all agree bots exist and you and sharp think it doesn't matter as long as they aren't good

                  would love to hear where you draw the line from a bot being bad and ok to be on the site to a bot being good
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                  • Optional
                    Administrator
                    • 06-10-10
                    • 61396

                    #44
                    Originally posted by RudyRuetigger

                    your proof is his twitter post?

                    he is replying to doyle fukkin Brunson and never denied what he said in the video
                    Errr... from the twitter post the day after vid "I'm not implying the owners are actively complicit"

                    Gee, he sure seems to saying they are over and again in the vid!

                    And the first line of the vid description "I will talk about the cheating, botting, high stakes collusion & possible superusing that I believe to currently be taking place on the Winning Poker Network aka America's Card Room."




                    Don't want to argue with you Rudy, but if you are posting with him at 2+2 why not ask him to explain more about the allegations of single users allowed to hold multiple accounts and sit at same table... and more than anything, just any reason he can give to explain the SuperUSer allegation he repeats multiple times in the vid?

                    He says he has hours of recordings of examples of this play! Can't he show just 1 hand that he thinks shows an example of this?

                    He could even just explain clearly what has happened apart from he seems to lose too much and not get value bets in against one account from Turkey?


                    You like being the one to expose things. Go expose this guy!
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                    • Optional
                      Administrator
                      • 06-10-10
                      • 61396

                      #45
                      Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                      I don't keep up with poker

                      but I'm almost certain he has interviewed the ceo of WPN on his channel or atleast podcast???

                      so for him to call them out is kinda big...what other poker podcasts have his following?

                      I bet he could've had a sponsorship there

                      anyway...we all agree bots exist and you and sharp think it doesn't matter as long as they aren't good

                      would love to hear where you draw the line from a bot being bad and ok to be on the site to a bot being good
                      Pretty sure I have not said anything about how easy bots are to beat or not. I have not been thinking about the bot issue.

                      I just want to know if there is ANY actual evidence, or even a clear story about a hand this guy thinks is proof of this Turkish guy he has recorded for hours being a super user or colluding!
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                      • RudyRuetigger
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 08-24-10
                        • 65084

                        #46
                        I said in my last post we cant prove anything

                        for the third time: we agree bots exist. two of you think that is ok as they are not big time winners

                        I am asking where you draw the line since you think it is ok since they do not win (you have no proof of this but I am taking your word that they do not win) so give me an idea and what winrate and at what stakes can we draw the line

                        THANKS
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                        • HurryUpAndDrink
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 08-23-13
                          • 13017

                          #47
                          Careful with the WPN network (America's Card Room)

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                          • firedawg
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 10-08-08
                            • 39219

                            #48
                            Unreal

                            Really
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                            • RudyRuetigger
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 08-24-10
                              • 65084

                              #49
                              I fukkin made this thread days ago

                              what a fukkin idiot
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                              • RudyRuetigger
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 08-24-10
                                • 65084

                                #50
                                Originally posted by firedawg
                                Unreal

                                Really
                                if he knew I made this thread, he would've been arguing for WPN

                                sad times at SBR
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                                • HurryUpAndDrink
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 08-23-13
                                  • 13017

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                  I fukkin made this thread days ago

                                  what a fukkin idiot
                                  your mother is the fukkin idiot for not aborting your ass

                                  I try as hard as I can to ignore your threads... and if you check back and see I reply to less than 30% of them

                                  Hard to say if you are gone or self banned or crying or bitching... I frankly dont pay attention to your bitch drama
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                                  • jjgold
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 07-20-05
                                    • 388179

                                    #52
                                    lol

                                    I am too sharp to play online poker
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                                    • HurryUpAndDrink
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 08-23-13
                                      • 13017

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by firedawg
                                      Unreal

                                      Really
                                      gonna resume on the tracking

                                      thx for material pal... cant wait to update w your SuperBowl screwdriver
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                                      • RudyRuetigger
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 08-24-10
                                        • 65084

                                        #54
                                        MODS please merge this idiots thread

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                                        • RudyRuetigger
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 08-24-10
                                          • 65084

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by HurryUpAndDrink
                                          gonna resume on the tracking

                                          thx for material pal... cant wait to update w your SuperBowl screwdriver
                                          have a bigday Friday as a nonpro?

                                          2/02/2018
                                          6:17 PM
                                          Points transfer to sportsbook. HurryUpAndDrink SBR Sportsbook Withdraw
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                                          • firedawg
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 10-08-08
                                            • 39219

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by HurryUpAndDrink
                                            gonna resume on the tracking, like taking my pal

                                            thx for material pal... cant wait to update w your SuperBowl screwdriver
                                            Please do

                                            You have nothing better to do than post in this place 24/7
                                            Don’t forget my golf plays

                                            Oops
                                            U can’t see them


                                            Broke fukkk non pro
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                                            • HurryUpAndDrink
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 08-23-13
                                              • 13017

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by firedawg
                                              Please do

                                              You have nothing better to do than post in this place 24/7
                                              Don’t forget my golf plays

                                              Oops
                                              U can’t see them


                                              Broke fukkk non pro
                                              LMAO YOU ARE A RETARD

                                              Making a thread pro only means I cannot post in it. But I can SEE AND TRACK.

                                              Nice try tho... try having a brain for your next attempt at #winning
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                                              • firedawg
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 10-08-08
                                                • 39219

                                                #58
                                                Hurry should have got stiff of the year award
                                                Steve left so Hurry was a shoe in
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                                                • firedawg
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 10-08-08
                                                  • 39219

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by HurryUpAndDrink
                                                  LMAO YOU ARE A RETARD

                                                  Making a thread pro only means I cannot post in it. But I can SEE AND TRACK.

                                                  Nice try tho... try having a brain for your next attempt at #winning
                                                  Calm down Shirley
                                                  It’s ok
                                                  It’s a chit chat room right????

                                                  Now get back in your hut and get to sweeping
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                                                  • unde0087
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 03-27-08
                                                    • 28914

                                                    #60
                                                    Opti, I was bored so I watched the whole vid. Not sure why because I don't play online other than SBR and that is quite enough for me. Guy shared zero evidence. Just him whining for 18 minutes. My question is, we all know most of these sites have cheaters and most of us have been in on pots or games that were blatantly rigged over the years. Not sure why anyone would play on these sites, especially if they are in a populated area, when you can go to play live.
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                                                    • RudyRuetigger
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 08-24-10
                                                      • 65084

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by unde0087
                                                      Opti, I was bored so I watched the whole vid. Not sure why because I don't play online other than SBR and that is quite enough for me. Guy shared zero evidence. Just him whining for 18 minutes. My question is, we all know most of these sites have cheaters and most of us have been in on pots or games that were blatantly rigged over the years. Not sure why anyone would play on these sites, especially if they are in a populated area, when you can go to play live.
                                                      let me get this straight

                                                      you admit you know nothing

                                                      and you are asking a guy that knows nothing


                                                      great idea fukkin idiot
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                                                      • unde0087
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 03-27-08
                                                        • 28914

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                                        let me get this straight

                                                        you admit you know nothing

                                                        and you are asking a guy that knows nothing


                                                        great idea fukkin idiot
                                                        This post sums up how fukin stupid or drunk you are on a daily basis. The reply makes about as much sense as that rambling school girl in the video.
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                                                        • Optional
                                                          Administrator
                                                          • 06-10-10
                                                          • 61396

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                                          I said in my last post we cant prove anything

                                                          for the third time: we agree bots exist. two of you think that is ok as they are not big time winners

                                                          I am asking where you draw the line since you think it is ok since they do not win (you have no proof of this but I am taking your word that they do not win) so give me an idea and what winrate and at what stakes can we draw the line

                                                          THANKS
                                                          Again, I have not said they can't win or can win. Or if I think that makes a difference.

                                                          I don't know where to draw the line. And honestly I don't have much interest in playing online a lot, pretty much due to the collusion issue. Plus bots too I guess. And helper software to tell players what to do. Don't like any of it.

                                                          Personally, if I owned a poker site and it was possible to stop all bots and helper software, that's how I would like to run it.

                                                          I'd probably work out an algorithm to flag potential collusion and do all this was possible to stamp on that.


                                                          I imagine ACR want to operate something like that too.

                                                          Do you think it's possible?
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                                                          • vividjohn45
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 11-21-10
                                                            • 6331

                                                            #64
                                                            I'd like to see the proof so i am kind of disregarding this .
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                                                            • rm18
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 09-20-05
                                                              • 22291

                                                              #65
                                                              Some of the guys he is accusing are known players who are definitely not bots.
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                                                              • HurryUpAndDrink
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 08-23-13
                                                                • 13017

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by vividjohn45
                                                                I'd like to see the proof so i am kind of disregarding this .
                                                                I really wouldn't. The source is credible.

                                                                I have suffered same thing on WPN last when I played cash early 2015. Used to play $1-$2 and $2-$4 PLO8 and NLHE.

                                                                Same players winning most sessions, if they lost it was against each other... not to mention they always cashed top $ in the rake races...

                                                                WPN sucks and has many security flaws as proven multiple times. I was able to try and use a bot at this site successfully. Anyone with half a brain could, you just buy it.

                                                                Said bot works on 888poker too.
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                                                                • mikejamm
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 08-24-09
                                                                  • 11045

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Wow, cheating and collusion in online poker. This idiot rants for 18 minutes (didn't even watch it all) about how fuk'ed (WPN network) America's Card Room is. Noob! Tell us something we don't know!
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                                                                  • RudyRuetigger
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 08-24-10
                                                                    • 65084

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by unde0087
                                                                    This post sums up how fukin stupid or drunk you are on a daily basis. The reply makes about as much sense as that rambling school girl in the video.
                                                                    which part of my post is wrong??
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                                                                    • RudyRuetigger
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 08-24-10
                                                                      • 65084

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by rm18
                                                                      Some of the guys he is accusing are known players who are definitely not bots.
                                                                      like who

                                                                      44bars??
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                                                                      • SharpAngles
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 04-15-14
                                                                        • 9467

                                                                        #70
                                                                        I don’t think GUMMO77 plays at ACR so doubt there’s any dangerous bots over there
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