Still Value in US -400 in President's Cup?

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  • Louisvillekid1
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-17-07
    • 52143

    #1
    Still Value in US -400 in President's Cup?
    Just don't see how they lose...

    day 1 to win -170?
  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #2
    Pass

    Anything can happen
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    • milwaukee mike
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 08-22-07
      • 26914

      #3
      day 1 win i see -150 at heritage

      for the whole cup i see us (to win 3-way) at -345 or us (pk) at -445

      if you're talking a pick em line at -400 then obviously i would say YES but if it's the 3-way line that's horrible
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      • Louisvillekid1
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 10-17-07
        • 52143

        #4
        matchups realized, hopefully lines soon
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        • jjgold
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 07-20-05
          • 388179

          #5
          You should realize golf is a sport anybody can beat anyone because the level of competition is so close
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          • KVB
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 05-29-14
            • 74817

            #6
            Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
            Just don't see how they lose...

            day 1 to win -170?
            I don't like the Day 1 winner Kid.

            I think US comes on after day one to win it. Maybe they get the -1.5 out of it by Sunday.
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            • milwaukee mike
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 08-22-07
              • 26914

              #7
              i'm not sure how you guys are so confident in the us

              lineup isn't that one-sided, and the rules changes in 2015 resulted in the internationals only losing by 1 point vs the old format that punished their lack of depth
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              • cwnotorious
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 05-13-13
                • 950

                #8
                It's definitely a bit more even this year then years prior, hoffman/chapell/Ricky not playing well last couple weeks but thomas/speith reed/koepka are in form. International team looks stronger then ever imo and have most of their team in good form. If u break down day 1 matchups I think we are looking at a 1point lead at most and honestly I would lean towards the international team on the first day. Over the long haul I see a tight presidents cup with the u.s. pulling it off on sunday
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                • KVB
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 05-29-14
                  • 74817

                  #9
                  I don't see the upset paying here Mike, but the push isn't ruled out.

                  In the end though, I think the US wins and shows why they are favored. I may look at the day by day "live" and possibly the -1.5.

                  Haven't decided, more info and matchups to be had still.
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                  • jjgold
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 07-20-05
                    • 388179

                    #10
                    There are tremendous golfers on the other side Louisville kid do your homework and stop being a cuckoo clock
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                    • KVB
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 05-29-14
                      • 74817

                      #11
                      East to talk yourself into value for the underdog, that's one of many reasons why I don't think the market upset will pay.

                      If it seems too easy, sometimes it is. This is an isolated event with the only chance to steer money between rounds. The market is beginning to stack its bets early.

                      Round 1 will be interesting, but the US has the better chance of pulling off the victory. Is it worth -400? That's a different story.
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                      • milwaukee mike
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 08-22-07
                        • 26914

                        #12
                        Originally posted by KVB
                        I don't see the upset paying here Mike, but the push isn't ruled out.

                        In the end though, I think the US wins and shows why they are favored. I may look at the day by day "live" and possibly the -1.5.

                        Haven't decided, more info and matchups to be had still.
                        how about for shits and giggles... you get the push, i get the international to win outright, and i give you 3-1 odds? if the us wins outright then no action

                        my 1000 betpoints to your 333
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                        • MickeyMan
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 10-20-09
                          • 5091

                          #13
                          Bet365 has Anthony Kim listed playing with grillo tomorrow made me double take.

                          Where the fukk is that guy
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                          • KVB
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 05-29-14
                            • 74817

                            #14
                            Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                            how about for shits and giggles... you get the push, i get the international to win outright, and i give you 3-1 odds? if the us wins outright then no action

                            my 1000 betpoints to your 333
                            Interesting.

                            I gave the 333 for you to hold. If you change your mind that's all good, but otherwise it's on till Sunday. I have the tie, you have the internationals. If US wins, no action.

                            Bring it on.

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                            • CWD
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 01-22-12
                              • 7665

                              #15
                              Originally posted by MickeyMan
                              Bet365 has Anthony Kim listed playing with grillo tomorrow made me double take.

                              Where the fukk is that guy
                              taking or took insurance payout to never play again

                              last seen in a pet store in texas
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                              • CWD
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 01-22-12
                                • 7665

                                #16
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                                • krk1030
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 08-13-08
                                  • 17610

                                  #17
                                  Matsuyama is in dreadful form the last few weeks, and Scott has hardly played in 2 months.

                                  Day has been pretty good, but other than that it's tough to back the international team.
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                                  • milwaukee mike
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 08-22-07
                                    • 26914

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by KVB
                                    Interesting.

                                    I gave the 333 for you to hold. If you change your mind that's all good, but otherwise it's on till Sunday. I have the tie, you have the internationals. If US wins, no action.

                                    Bring it on.

                                    sounds good, confirmed
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                                    • El Nino
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 05-03-12
                                      • 18426

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by CWD
                                      taking or took insurance payout to never play again

                                      last seen in a pet store in texas
                                      Yep, if he tees off in one pro tourney he voids what sounds like a pretty sizable insurance policy. Guy is basically retired. Heard stories that he is a recluse.
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                                      • El Nino
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 05-03-12
                                        • 18426

                                        #20
                                        I took Fowler/Thomas (-155) vs. Matsuyama/Schwartzel
                                        & Louie Oost/Grace +1/2 (-125) vs. Koepka/Berger could see a halve here.

                                        Lines moved quickly towards the doggies. Could easily be 2.5 a piece after the 1st day. All depends what DJ and Koepka show up. You know Reed/Spieth/Fowler will be amped the fukk up.

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                                        • jjgold
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 07-20-05
                                          • 388179

                                          #21
                                          I took the world to win cup
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                                          • Louisvillekid1
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 10-17-07
                                            • 52143

                                            #22
                                            Took Koepka to lead US in scoring 10/1
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                                            • Louisvillekid1
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 10-17-07
                                              • 52143

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                              Took Koepka to lead US in scoring 10/1
                                              Branden Grace 8/1 to lead international team
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                                              • krk1030
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 08-13-08
                                                • 17610

                                                #24
                                                easy winner on spith/reed


                                                hoping to hit on day/leichman now
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                                                • jjgold
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                  • 388179

                                                  #25
                                                  This is such a terrible event and a terrible location to many international competitions now and just so watered down it means nothing
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                                                  • lonegambler23
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 06-22-16
                                                    • 9760

                                                    #26
                                                    if you count that as value you shouldnt be gambling
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                                                    • MickeyMan
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 10-20-09
                                                      • 5091

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by jjgold
                                                      This is such a terrible event and a terrible location to many international competitions now and just so watered down it means nothing
                                                      Wrong
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                                                      • Louisvillekid1
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 10-17-07
                                                        • 52143

                                                        #28
                                                        Day 1 -170 was easy
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                                                        • Louisvillekid1
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 10-17-07
                                                          • 52143

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by lonegambler23
                                                          if you count that as value you shouldnt be gambling
                                                          Value doesn't have to start w/ + sign
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                                                          • milwaukee mike
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 08-22-07
                                                            • 26914

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                                            Value doesn't have to start w/ + sign
                                                            i think he meant there is no value in -400 when you can find it for -335
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                                                            • meyer0416
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 10-19-11
                                                              • 1082

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by jjgold
                                                              This is such a terrible event and a terrible location to many international competitions now and just so watered down it means nothing
                                                              You know literally nothing about golf.. stop. Go hide in a hole. Please!
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                                                              • jjgold
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 07-20-05
                                                                • 388179

                                                                #32
                                                                lol

                                                                This is a non event

                                                                How many people watching 50???

                                                                Golf ratings getting KILLED
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                                                                • Louisvillekid1
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 10-17-07
                                                                  • 52143

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                  lol

                                                                  This is a non event

                                                                  How many people watching 50???

                                                                  Golf ratings getting KILLED
                                                                  White America
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                                                                  • jjgold
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                                    • 388179

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I cannot watch
                                                                    It’s not even close to Ryder cup golf

                                                                    Kid stay away
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                                                                    • KVB
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 05-29-14
                                                                      • 74817

                                                                      #35
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