I just turned my t.v off...

[The Kraken]

Kneeling has been the ultimate form of respect and reverence since the beginning of time. It is why it was suggested to Kaep instead of sitting. Yet if you want a narrative, you have to be offended by everything. Like the guy that said he know all these offended vets lol. A real vet recommended Kaep to kneel instead. I'm a vet and thank god i know normal people. Maybe it's an OLD vet thing. But the guys i know have common sense and much like athletes have been exposed to diversity and have an understanding of different views. Somebody please explain to me how through thousands of years of history, in 2017 kneeling has become an act of disrespect.

Cuz America Bro

Go white people

Fukk you Kingdom

[CDUBB_CW]

You clowns can watch the NHL since they do not protest and decided to inform 45 they will be coming to the white house after GSW and UNC teams turned down offer.

It's not about the military, but I appreciate everyone keeping it there and not focusing on the inequalities in America. The flag/anthem are symbols of freedom. Soldiers didnt fight/die for a piece of cloth & a song. They fought for free expression. Like kneeling.

Anyways that's my opinion on the reason players are kneeling. If you guys can't comprehend, it's obvious you're all narrow-minded or don't care to know. This forum has become a cyber Trump rally with a bunch of racist. If you don't like players kneeling turn-off the TV or changet the channel.

White people have no problem with black NFL players when they are being used for entertainment, but hate when the platform is used 2 protest. There's no NFL or NBA without black players, so respect their peaceful protest because middle-class minorities do not have the platform to make a change.

***Drops Mic***

[stevenash]

Words of wisdom, too bad others don't get it

Even the most "libertarian" people i know are bitching about the kneeling and I just ask them if they see the irony

Right over their heads

Seriously, on a scale of 1 to 100 of things I'm concerned about, my welfare, my wife's welfare, my house, my family, my career, etc. all being in the top ten, kneeling, doing the watoosi, or the Mexican hat dance or the Polish polka while the anthem is playing ranks about 144.

[unde0087]

Ranger, you have to understand this, most of these guys doing this didn't have a dad. That is what is wrong with America especially in black America. People, especially far left, want to blame this or that but the simple fact is most of these black kids (about 75%) don't have any father figure like any of us. But we like to blame cops, white, or whatever the fuk makes them sleep better at night. Statistics prove the opposite on almost everything they are protesting and these people won't ever get the message because idiots keep blaming the dumbest shit there is to explain why most of these black kids don't make it when affirmative action does nothing but help them if they really want to make something of themselves but those are just the facts and that gets in the way of the "woes me" or BLM narrative so they keep on with the same shit that just makes it worse for the younger generation because now instead of making anything of themselves its just easier to play into the "everyone has it out for me" act and might as well hit the streets instead of getting that easy funding that the government has for them. But ya, kneel away. It is really helping. I wonder if any of these millionaires doing this really know what they are doing to the young black kids because it sure isn't helping them.

[eidolon]

It has nothing to do with the military....this has been covered countless times.

Does it have to do with the higher % of black people committing murder compared to whites? or the lower number of blacks being killed by cops compared to whites?

[vividjohn45]

NFL is going down the toilet, and fast. It's been going downhill for a few years, only getting worse. Nobody cares about the games, all you hear anymore is the dumbasses protesting and domestic violence (from Ray Rice to Elliot). The only talk that pertains to the game is how bad the refs are and how bad the QB play is.

For the most part shut up. The last 2 superbowls were highly watched and full of tension and excitement. Go on.

[The Kraken]

Seriously, on a scale of 1 to 100 of things I'm concerned about, my welfare, my wife's welfare, my house, my family, my career, etc. all being in the top ten, kneeling, doing the watoosi, or the Mexican hat dance or the Polish polka while the anthem is playing ranks about 144.

I never cared when the players weren't kneeling, and don't care now that they are. I never once cared when white nationalists were protesting in cities across America, I supported their right to protest as I supported blacks rights to protest them. I supported GW Bush, and I supported Obama. I support our military and those that protest war.

Like you illustrated Nashy, priorities are important to have in life. You have them

[unde0087]

Kraken, how are you been you fuk? I don't give a shit if I don't agree with you on loving Trump or some black kneeling, fuk them

[TheMoneyShot]

I'm still trying to figure out why players are kneeling for?

Where is this.... inequality?

What exactly isn't equal?

Sounds like a bunch of attention whores kneeling.

[Kermit]

You know, I got to thinking today. What exactly has changed for black people under 8 years of Obama? My retired black next door neighbor still has the same car and truck, his back porch roof is still falling in, his son is still involved with the same flunkie crew and has been in and out of jail for the last few years.

Where was this "Change" that everyone was promised? Seriously?

Have a significant amount of black people advanced with 8 years of Obama?

Would love to hear some stories of advancement that you have seen of or heard about.

[unde0087]

You know, I got to thinking today. What exactly has changed for black people under 8 years of Obama? My retired black next door neighbor still has the same car and truck, his back porch roof is still falling in, his son is still involved with the same flunkie crew and has been in and out of jail for the last few years.

Where was this "Change" that everyone was promised? Seriously?

Have a significant amount of black people advanced with 8 years of Obama?

Would love to hear some stories of advancement that you have seen of or heard about.

The only thing that advanced Kermit is BLM and more excuses for people to not do a damn thing with their lives but take a knee or just protest everything but at the end of the day it doesn't do a fukin thing. That is the change.

[kingdom]

Ranger, you have to understand this, most of these guys doing this didn't have a dad. That is what is wrong with America especially in black America. People, especially far left, want to blame this or that but the simple fact is most of these black kids (about 75%) don't have any father figure like any of us. But we like to blame cops, white, or whatever the fuk makes them sleep better at night. Statistics prove the opposite on almost everything they are protesting and these people won't ever get the message because idiots keep blaming the dumbest shit there is to explain why most of these black kids don't make it when affirmative action does nothing but help them if they really want to make something of themselves but those are just the facts and that gets in the way of the "woes me" or BLM narrative so they keep on with the same shit that just makes it worse for the younger generation because now instead of making anything of themselves its just easier to play into the "everyone has it out for me" act and might as well hit the streets instead of getting that easy funding that the government has for them. But ya, kneel away. It is really helping. I wonder if any of these millionaires doing this really know what they are doing to the young black kids because it sure isn't helping them.

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[unde0087]

I wish your dad would have set aside a few minutes to show you how to form a proper sentence. damn.

Did Gonzaga win? I didn't see the game. Did those clowns route UNC like you said? Who won you broke ass clown?

[kingdom]

Lol. Yeah, I know. Someone here said earlier UNC isn't going to the white house. Is that true?

[unde0087]

Lol. Yeah, I know. Someone here said earlier UNC isn't going to the white house. Is that true?

Send me your bitcoin address so we can turn your broke ass into a pro, its been 7 fukin years. I don't want your clown ass to be oppressed anymore because you can't pick a fukin winner.

[TheMoneyShot]

You know, I got to thinking today. What exactly has changed for black people under 8 years of Obama? My retired black next door neighbor still has the same car and truck, his back porch roof is still falling in, his son is still involved with the same flunkie crew and has been in and out of jail for the last few years.

Where was this "Change" that everyone was promised? Seriously?

Have a significant amount of black people advanced with 8 years of Obama?

Would love to hear some stories of advancement that you have seen of or heard about.

Just 8 years of a free hall pass. That's about it.

In Michigan... blacks just sat around... collecting welfare... not working....

Just 8 years of a free ride man.

I don't know why any President would condone such sh#$ behavior?

Obama was a great talker. Told you what you wanted to hear.

Trump is also a good talker. But tells you WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW.

Big difference.

[kingdom]

I wasn't even being sarcastic lol. I was really wondering about UNC. I even edited my post cause i thought it was rude and you come back all sensitive. I actually had a 3-1 day. I did recently see a bitcoin thread that brings some value to being Pro. But paying to argue with clowns never quite interested me. Betting cash with Bovada and 5 dimes has been fine by me so far.

[Ghenghis Kahn]

fyi, this world is run by the master freemasons and the zionist jews... we live in "their" matrix. the most influential and powerful figures in the history of the united states were and are either 33rd degree master freemasons or zionist jews. let's just say they don't have your best interest but you'll never learn this in schools. since they control everything in this world including your minds.

bottom line, divide and conquer is the name of the game and everything's going according to their plan. their worst fear is for everyone to unite and discover what's been really going on for centuries. why must they fight us to keep their power when they can get us to fight each other?

as for our national anthem, it should be america the beautiful and not star spangled banner. what other country's anthem is about war? only the us. that's just pathetic... if you know anything about modern wars, they were to generate money for the banksters and nothing else, every single one of them.

peace...

[unde0087]

I wasn't even being sarcastic lol. I was really wondering about UNC. I even edited my post cause i thought it was rude and you come back all sensitive. I actually had a 3-1 day. I did recently see a bitcoin thread that brings some value to being Pro. But paying to argue with clowns never quite interested me. Betting cash with Bovada and 5 dimes has been fine by me so far.

Kingdom, you mention my dad in a post, I will fuking murder you. You can call me whatever the fuk you want but if you mention any of my family I will not ever stop ripping your ass, every fukin post you post for the rest of your live. Any dipshit who does it, I will troll them to the day they post their last post, I promise.

[xdodger19]

So you are saying its ok for the govt to kill people because blacks kill other blacks
all you dumb racists are going to the lake of fire

[Mac4Lyfe]

For me...this subject is very tough to decide upon. I'm a Veteran who stood The Watch for 5 yrs and has had several classmates die, 1 friend KIA and another who lost an arm. So yes it pisses me off to see these protests. On the other hand, I have a decent # of minority friends (and wife) and can understand their point. However I ask them, and these millionaire players, what are you doing to stand up against the actions of the low percentage of people that bring down your race (i.e. Chicago/other troubled areas)? Until that is addressed, then it's hard to correct the actions against a select few that may have been wronged.
Unfortunately, until we unite as a Country. We will continue to be divided. I wish people could realize life is too short to hate.

I appreciate your service and I am saddened by the loss of your friend. My dad served in 3 wars and was buried with full honors. His best friend was KIA.

We have an epidemic of veterans killing themselves every day. One vet every 80 minutes takes their lives, over 20 a day. Thousands every year, much more than the black people you mentioned in Chicago or other troubled areas combined. So...

WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO STAND UP AGAINST THIS? HOW ARE YOU ADDRESSING THIS ISSUE? WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO PREVENT THE NEXT VET THAT'S TAKING HIS LIFE RIGHT NOW?

I think it is disingenuous to tell another man how they should protest and what they should protest. Or that your issue is more important than their issue. It is worst that you think you understand your wife and friends point, when you really don't. You are not conflicted, you have already made your opinion very clear. You think it's white/black when many white people are kneeling as well.

Do you even know why you are pissed off? Who made a law that required you or anyone to stand during the anthem? Where did you get that rule? Who told you that it was disrespectful? Did you read it in our constitution? Were you taught this in school? Have you ever seen others not stand or hold their hands over their hearts? Did it piss you off too? Why? Do you think it should be a law? What should be the punishment for people that don't stand? Jail? What if they don't put their hands on their heart? Give them a flogging?

Some people's religion forbid them from worshiping idols like a flag or to pledge to anyone or thing but God. Do you have a problem with someone exercising their religious freedom?

We will never, ever unite as long as you don't believe that we can both agree to disagree and still be both right.

[kingdom]

Kingdom, you mention my dad in a post, I will fuking murder you. You can call me whatever the fuk you want but if you mention any of my family I will not ever stop ripping your ass, every fukin post you post for the rest of your live. Any dipshit who does it, I will troll them to the day they post their last post, I promise.

Lol. i edited to be nice as i thought it was rude. but if you think i am worried about your bitch ass threatening me? Fukkin hilarious. I don't back down from shit ever. And i don't really lose those battles. Now you could have let it go little boy, but however you wanna go, i'm cool with it. The 52 word run-on sentence was yours and not his. But like i said, take it how you wanna. I don't give a fukkkkkkk!!!!!

[unde0087]

So you are saying its ok for the govt to kill people because blacks kill other blacks
all you dumb racists are going to the lake of fire

You realize that a black man occupied the white house for 8 of the last 9 years right? What the fuk are you talking about? He killed people because blacks killed blacks? That is just not right, I can't believe it.

[unde0087]

Lol. i edited to be nice as i thought it was rude. but if you think i am worried about your bitch ass threatening me? Fukkin hilarious. I don't back down from shit ever. And i don't really lose those battles. Now you could have let it go little boy, but however you wanna go, i'm cool with it. The 52 word run-on sentence was yours and not his. But like i said, take it how you wanna. I don't give a fukkkkkkk!!!!!

Game on, i was here before you and I will be here long after you are put to rest.

[unde0087]

For me...this subject is very tough to decide upon. I'm a Veteran who stood The Watch for 5 yrs and has had several classmates die, 1 friend KIA and another who lost an arm. So yes it pisses me off to see these protests. On the other hand, I have a decent # of minority friends (and wife) and can understand their point. However I ask them, and these millionaire players, what are you doing to stand up against the actions of the low percentage of people that bring down your race (i.e. Chicago/other troubled areas)? Until that is addressed, then it's hard to correct the actions against a select few that may have been wronged.

Unfortunately, until we unite as a Country. We will continue to be divided. I wish people could realize life is too short to hate.

This is the best post by far. Much respect sir

[kingdom]

It's funny how trump sets a table for aggression and then throws a raw steak on that table for two sides to fight over it. Every time the fire settles a bit, he grabs the gas can. From birthers, to sexism, blatant racism towards mexicans. After Charlottesville cools down, he's on to the anthem. In a few weeks it will be something else. His actions and comments are as divisive as most have seen in their lifetime. People are pitted against each other on a constant basis. He ignites topics that are as polarizing as he is. Even on a weekend filled with competitive games he tossed a grenade in the midst of it. McCain has been labeled a maverick, but for the most part has been able to work sensibly with both sides during his years in office. Sensibility has been removed from the equation now. Trump's pervasive attitude is always it must be this way, with zero flexibility. People in this country aren't comfortable being told what to think or do based on one persons opinion. Because of that i doubt there will be any peace among people during his term. Even this forum before last year's campaign was nothing like this.

[kingdom]

Game on, i was here before you and I will be here long after you are put to rest.

fukk you gonna do to me? waste as much time as u want lol.

[wikkidinsane]

Kapernick is being heard. What a patriot.

[wikkidinsane]

And sitting or kneeling during the National Anthem is not the "COOL" thing to do. There is a purpose behind it. Dont you see how the ones who sit or kneel are being perceived by the mass? As traitors to the Country. How is this cool? #BLACKLIVESMATTER

[wikkidinsane]

And for those who think that I just started taking a knee. This was me 6-7 years ago Kneeling in solidarity the big homie TIM TEBOW!

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[marcoloco]

^^
people hated the Tebow knee also

[TheMoneyShot]

Teblow is also on my sh#$ list... another as$hole turd

[HAPPY BOY]

dummies hurting there cause. cant even do a protest effective. Most Americans pissed off at these clowns ZERO SYMPATHY phuk there cause..want equality.. have a father figure..get educated and compete this is CAPITALISM not SOCIALISM stop blaming whitey and stop being featured on the 6pm news on every store camera. baby momma = FAIL. think this post is racist?? PROVE IT WRONG!!

[jjgold]

AMERICA LAUGHING AT THEM

They easily make fools of themselves daily

[shadymcgrady]

Still waiting on brooks...