Cubs acquire José Quintana

BOA12 · 07-13-17, 11:15 AM

Originally posted by TheLock

I hate the Cubs

Was hoping they would nose dive.

it might be too late for the northside supermen U96- still looks good

lakerboy · 07-13-17, 11:23 AM

Never heard of him

OlDirtyBaztid · 07-13-17, 11:46 AM

I am a die hard, born and raised Chicago sox fan and i love this trade. I thought Quintana needs to much learning with his mindset and confidence. He implodes after a couple hits. i would like to see the stats of games he pitched and how many he was pulled out by the fifth. Sox with 9 top 100 prospects? I'll take it. I wish Reinsdorf would take this approach with his circus act bulls

MaddyMax · 07-13-17, 11:51 AM

quintana should have abetter second half in weak hitting NL and he will face one less real batter everyday now with no dh.

BOA12 · 07-13-17, 11:58 AM

Originally posted by OlDirtyBaztid

I am a die hard, born and raised Chicago sox fan and i love this trade. I thought Quintana needs to much learning with his mindset and confidence. He implodes after a couple hits. i would like to see the stats of games he pitched and how many he was pulled out by the fifth. Sox with 9 top 100 prospects? I'll take it. I wish Reinsdorf would take this approach with his circus act bulls

convert after 69 and born and raised here. Best sports move I ever made. Already knew the future was here

OlDirtyBaztid · 07-13-17, 12:04 PM

Originally posted by BOA12

convert after 69 and born and raised here. Best sports move I ever made. Already knew the future was here

Atta boy!! I'm curious to see what they're going to do with Renteria now. All we need is a bullpen and i believe that is why they are stacking so many pieces, even if we don't need them. Couple years and we will be in good standings with the right management!

BOA12 · 07-13-17, 12:18 PM

Originally posted by OlDirtyBaztid

Atta boy!! I'm curious to see what they're going to do with Renteria now. All we need is a bullpen and i believe that is why they are stacking so many pieces, even if we don't need them. Couple years and we will be in good standings with the right management!

our division is on a decline over all. bodes well for us. bol bazdid

Otters27 · 07-13-17, 03:07 PM

Cubs chasing Rockies and DIamond backs for Wildcard. They should be OK.

d2bets · 07-13-17, 04:53 PM

Originally posted by Otters27

Cubs chasing Rockies and DIamond backs for Wildcard. They should be OK.

Cubs are much more likely to win division than wildcard.

shocka1212 · 07-13-17, 04:54 PM

Originally posted by d2bets

Cubs are much more likely to win division than wildcard.

Cubs are trash fam....

mackave · 07-13-17, 04:59 PM

Hamburger

Mr KLC · 07-13-17, 05:14 PM

Glad this trade took place. Now the Astros won't be tempted to trade for him.

turtlejc · 07-13-17, 05:15 PM

sox 2020 champs

Chi_archie · 07-13-17, 05:48 PM

Q has been an under rated and top 10 lefty for the past handful of seasons

should bounce back for a strong 2nd half

JAKEPEAVY21 · 07-13-17, 06:21 PM

desperate move

Cubs gave up too much

Mr KLC · 07-13-17, 06:25 PM

There are no starting pitchers out there that are worth considering giving up a king's ransom unless deGrom or Bumgarner are put on the market. Better to bulk up the bullpens. It'll be a lot less expensive in prospects.

Chi_archie · 07-13-17, 06:25 PM

i'd like to see the Pirates shop Gerrit Cole

Chi_archie · 07-13-17, 06:29 PM

Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21

desperate move

Cubs gave up too much

not really... if it was a half season rental maybe...

but for 3.5 years????

if the cubs tried to buy an arm on the free agent market for 3 years next offseason that is comparable to Q, it would cost them about 75 millions for those 3 years.

Salaries

24	Chicago White Sox	$500,000	0.133	contracts
25	Chicago White Sox	$850,000	1.133	contracts
26	Chicago White Sox	$3,400,000	2.133	contracts
27	Chicago White Sox	$5,400,000	3.133
28	Chicago White Sox	$7,000,000	4.133

29	Chicago White Sox	$8,850,000		$8.35m salary if not arbitration eligible after 2014 season
30	Chicago White Sox	*$10,500,000		$10.5M Team Option, $1M Buyout
31	Chicago White Sox	*$11,500,000		$11.5M Team Option, $1M Buyout
Earliest Free Agent: 2019
$17,150,000	Does not include future salaries ($8.85M)

JAKEPEAVY21 · 07-13-17, 06:34 PM

Originally posted by Chi_archie

not really... if it was a half season rental maybe...

but for 3.5 years????

if the cubs tried to buy an arm on the free agent market for 3 years next offseason that is comparable to Q, it would cost them about 75 millions for those 3 years.

Salaries

24	Chicago White Sox	$500,000	0.133	contracts
25	Chicago White Sox	$850,000	1.133	contracts
26	Chicago White Sox	$3,400,000	2.133	contracts
27	Chicago White Sox	$5,400,000	3.133
28	Chicago White Sox	$7,000,000	4.133

29	Chicago White Sox	$8,850,000		$8.35m salary if not arbitration eligible after 2014 season
30	Chicago White Sox	*$10,500,000		$10.5M Team Option, $1M Buyout
31	Chicago White Sox	*$11,500,000		$11.5M Team Option, $1M Buyout
Earliest Free Agent: 2019
$17,150,000	Does not include future salaries ($8.85M)

yep, definitely a factor..Quintana is good but nothing special

I think long term the white sox get the best of this trade

NLChad11 · 07-13-17, 06:35 PM

Great trade for both teams. Cubs didn't have any room for Jimenez anyway and who knows if he'll even be good. Cease could be a great pitcher...but we've heard that before. Sox have the time to give these kids a chance, Cubs already have their best young players up in the bigs and won the WS very early considering the age of their position players. Quintana solid 2-3 pitcher in the rotation and will be even that much better in a weaker hitting NL. Cubs desperately needed a starting pitching boost so it's perfect. Let's see if they can come back and win the central. Go Cubs!

NLChad11 · 07-13-17, 06:39 PM

And Shocka Cubs aren't garbage, if u haven't noticed, it's kinda hard to repeat as WS champs. Happens very rarely, baseball is hard fyi. I'm a big Cubs fan, nervous about their struggles this year but it's all about getting to the playoffs and getting hot. And that's very attainable in the NL Central.

Chi_archie · 07-13-17, 06:41 PM

super under-rated

2014 10th in MLB in WAR for pitchers
2015 15th in MLB in WAR for pitchers
2016 10th in MLB in WAR for pitchers

he's a #1 starter for over half the MLB teams in those years.

he's pretty good

Value
Projections | Minor Leagues | Regular Season

2012	White Sox	2.3	-0.1	0.8	0.7	15.8	1.6	$10.6
2013	White Sox	4.0	0.8	-0.3	0.5	31.8	3.5	$25.7
2014	White Sox	3.1	-1.0	-0.9	-1.9	43.7	5.1	$38.5
2015	White Sox	4.8	-1.7	1.7	0.0	43.0	4.8	$38.1
2016	White Sox	5.8	0.2	0.8	1.0	44.8	4.8	$38.2
2017	White Sox	1.3	-0.1	-0.6	-0.6	19.5	2.0	$15.9
Total	- - -	21.4	-2.0	1.6	-0.3	198.7	21.7	$166.9

cankid · 07-13-17, 06:51 PM

Good move by the Cubs

CTOWNsCAPPIN · 07-13-17, 07:34 PM

Good move but the Cubs need a few that can get on base. Lots of power, very little OBP with the daily lineup.

d2bets · 07-13-17, 08:31 PM

Originally posted by Chi_archie

not really... if it was a half season rental maybe...

but for 3.5 years????

if the cubs tried to buy an arm on the free agent market for 3 years next offseason that is comparable to Q, it would cost them about 75 millions for those 3 years.

Salaries

24	Chicago White Sox	$500,000	0.133	contracts
25	Chicago White Sox	$850,000	1.133	contracts
26	Chicago White Sox	$3,400,000	2.133	contracts
27	Chicago White Sox	$5,400,000	3.133
28	Chicago White Sox	$7,000,000	4.133

29	Chicago White Sox	$8,850,000		$8.35m salary if not arbitration eligible after 2014 season
30	Chicago White Sox	*$10,500,000		$10.5M Team Option, $1M Buyout
31	Chicago White Sox	*$11,500,000		$11.5M Team Option, $1M Buyout
Earliest Free Agent: 2019
$17,150,000	Does not include future salaries ($8.85M)

More than that. If he was a FA at year's end, he'd demand and get 5 years not 3. Probably 5/125, maybe more.

d2bets · 07-13-17, 08:34 PM

He's put up consistent mid-3 ERA for a shitty AL team with a shitty defense. Move him to the NL with a really good defense and he could very well be sub-3 ERA over the next 3.5 seasons.

NLChad11 · 07-13-17, 10:23 PM

^ this guy knows what's up!

BOA12 · 07-14-17, 01:57 AM

Originally posted by NLChad11

And Shocka Cubs aren't garbage, if u haven't noticed, it's kinda hard to repeat as WS champs. Happens very rarely, baseball is hard fyi. I'm a big Cubs fan, nervous about their struggles this year but it's all about getting to the playoffs and getting hot. And that's very attainable in the NL Central.

cubs suffering from a world series hangover that won't go away.

garvardntl · 07-14-17, 02:48 AM

Originally posted by d2bets

Cubs are much more likely to win division than wildcard.

This

Mr KLC · 07-14-17, 06:33 AM

Brewers GM David Stearns spoke with MLB.com’s Mark Feinsand in the wake of the division-rival Cubs’ blockbuster acquisition of Jose Quintana. Asked if the Brewers felt any pressure to quickly “respond” to the trade by swinging a deal of his own, Stearns suggested that he wouldn’t act so rashly. “I think that can be a little bit dangerous,” the GM explained. “We have to make moves that make the most sense for our franchise, and that’s regardless of what a particular rival or another team in our division is doing. … Obviously we’re going to continue to look at the market and see if there’s a fit for us down the road.” Stearns didn’t expressly rule out making a significant addition of his own, though his further comments to Feinsand cast some doubt on how willing he would be to part with his top tier of prospects.

NLChad11 · 07-14-17, 08:49 AM

My take on Stearns is that he's not super confident in the Brewers hanging on and winning the division so he doesn't want to give up his young talent for a rental for the rest of the season when it might not make a difference anyway. He'd rather hold on to his players for the future because he obviously has an up and coming team. I can respect that. So move out of the way the Cubs are gonna make that run lol!

Mr KLC · 07-15-17, 08:45 AM

When Joe Maddon met on Friday with his newest starter, Jose Quintana, the manager encouraged the left-hander to be himself and pointed out that the Cubs don't have many rules. Maddon also told Quintana this was a great opportunity to have an impact on the Cubs in the second half.

"When you say that, some guys give you the wrong look," Maddon said. "He was very good with that thought and very comfortable with that thought. You're always concerned about who accepts pressure, and I thought he accepted it really well."

"It's over and that's good," Quintana said of the trade rumors. "It's a fresh start. I just want to do my job and make the playoffs. I've never been to the playoffs and I have a good chance here."

The lefty will start Sunday against the Orioles and will be the third pitcher to make starts for both the Cubs and White Sox in the same season, joining Bob Miller (1970) and Steve Renko (1977). Quintana called it a perfect trade because he didn't have to move -- he'll just be driving north from his downtown Chicago apartment to Wrigley Field, and not south.

BOA12 · 07-15-17, 09:12 AM

Originally posted by Mr KLC

When Joe Maddon met on Friday with his newest starter, Jose Quintana, the manager encouraged the left-hander to be himself and pointed out that the Cubs don't have many rules. Maddon also told Quintana this was a great opportunity to have an impact on the Cubs in the second half.

"When you say that, some guys give you the wrong look," Maddon said. "He was very good with that thought and very comfortable with that thought. You're always concerned about who accepts pressure, and I thought he accepted it really well."

"It's over and that's good," Quintana said of the trade rumors. "It's a fresh start. I just want to do my job and make the playoffs. I've never been to the playoffs and I have a good chance here."

The lefty will start Sunday against the Orioles and will be the third pitcher to make starts for both the Cubs and White Sox in the same season, joining Bob Miller (1970) and Steve Renko (1977). Quintana called it a perfect trade because he didn't have to move -- he'll just be driving north from his downtown Chicago apartment to Wrigley Field, and not south.

have future Quintana OV 11- wins. Had already written it off. Always remember him often getting little run support often. Soft tossing leftys have had problems in Wrigley. For the first time since 69 will every 5th day will root for the cubs to get OV12 wins

Mr KLC · 08-05-17, 04:50 PM

Chicago White Sox general manager Rick Hahn said that he called Chicago Cubs general manager Theo Epstein to gauge interest in left-handed starting pitcher Jose Quintana after Cubs lefty Jon Lester gave up 10 runs against the Pittsburgh Pirates back on July 9, according to Alex Speier of The Boston Globe.

The Cubs acquired Quintana from the White Sox on July 13.

The 28-year-old has made four starts since being traded to the defending World Series champions, going 2-1 with a 4.13 ERA and allowing 18 hits while striking out 31 batters in 24 innings of work.