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  • stevenash
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    • 01-17-11
    • 66120

    #1
    Taking a shot with Tigers at +195
    Cleveland's priced to high, and I think I'm getting good value here at 2:1(almost)

    Both teams offenses are pretty much equal, scoring on the average of about 4 3/4 runs a game apiece.
    Of course Kluber is the better starter, but don't discount Fulmer, he's got that four pitch arsenal and that curve ball is devastating when it's on.

    Kluber is Kluber, you know all about him, had an outstanding post season last season.
    2014 Cy Young Award winner, yadda, yadda, yadda.

    I'm not trying to sell anyone on Fulmer, but he's made 42 career starts now, he has a career (if you can call 1 1/2 years major league experience a career) ERA of 3.12 very solid pitching in the big bats league, a career WH/IP of 1.11
    (rock solid again) strikes out about 8 per 9 innings, like I mentioned has nasty stuff.

    One last item, I'm not going to debate anybody about BvP statistics, I'll say it one more time.
    BvP statistics are an ancillary statistics used to back up your logic for betting a side.
    It's not a go to stat, it's not the be all, end all stat, but it's useful when handicapping a game.

    Having said that, do you think Detroit has had problems with Kluber in the past?

    Detroit Tigers Career statistics vs. Corey Kluber
    BATTER AB H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO AVG OBP SLG OPS
    Jim Adduci 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000
    Alex Avila 21 5 2 0 0 4 4 7 .238 .360 .333 .693
    Miguel Cabrera 52 22 3 0 6 12 3 10 .423 .455 .827 1.281
    Nicholas Castellanos 27 9 1 0 0 1 0 9 .333 .333 .370 .704
    Jose Iglesias 13 2 1 0 0 0 0 1 .154 .267 .231 .497
    Ian Kinsler 38 7 1 1 0 2 2 12 .184 .225 .263 .488
    Victor Martinez 41 14 0 0 3 7 3 4 .341 .400 .561 .961
    J.D. Martinez 26 8 1 0 2 4 0 5 .308 .308 .577 .885
    James McCann 9 0 0 0 0 0 2 3 .000 .182 .000 .182
    Alex Presley 8 2 0 0 0 0 1 2 .250 .333 .250 .583
    Andrew Romine 16 3 2 0 0 1 1 3 .188 .235 .313 .548
    Justin Upton 13 5 2 0 3 6 4 6 .385 .529 1.231 1.760
    Totals 266 77 13 1 14 37 20 62 .289 .346 .504 .850

    Only one in the lineup tonight that has had problems with Kluber is Kinsler.
    And sorry if you are not a fan of the BvP, but 266 at bats is a huge sample size.

    Not saying it's a lock, not saying it's a slam dunk, what I am saying is Fulmer is
    more than capable of throwing strike for strike with Kluber and the Tiger bats are
    more than capable of out hitting the Indians bats.

    +195 is value here.
    A lot of value.

    Pass, fade or tail, it's a good.
  • Bigbill365
    SBR MVP
    • 06-22-12
    • 4577

    #2
    Took them at that with betpoints
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    • Bigbill365
      SBR MVP
      • 06-22-12
      • 4577

      #3
      10.90 era vs tigers lol
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      • Fidel_CashFlow
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 12-03-12
        • 53972

        #4
        only thing that scares me off the +200 value is this

        DATE OPPONENT RESULT IP H R ER HR BB SO GB FB TBF Pit Dec. Rel. ERA
        07/04 vs SD L 0-1 8.0 5 1 1 0 1 10 10 8 29 107 L(7-3) -- 2.85
        06/29 vs TEX W 5-1 8.0 3 1 1 1 1 12 8 6 27 111 W(7-2) -- 3.02
        06/24 vs MIN L 2-4 7.0 3 2 0 0 2 13 6 6 27 106 -- -- 3.24
        06/19 @ BAL W 12-0 9.0 3 0 0 0 0 11 14 5 30 108 W(6-2) -- 3.58

        Klubers last 4 starts are vicious

        Then it makes you want to consider the under 8 with 2 pitchers on their game

        but thats a tricky number in baseball , and both teams running pretty much all their starters out there

        So .... got ants in my pants to bet on the Sunday night game but im not sure yet

        Good luck though Nash
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        • lakerboy
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 04-02-09
          • 94463

          #5
          On them as well. Gl nash
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          • pilebuck13
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 05-15-15
            • 17920

            #6
            Ask yourself Nash when has a -215 favorite list on Sunday night baseball?
            Priced high for a reason. Sure the tigers can win but check it out there bullpen is absolutely horrendous I can't back them on this alone. Good luck though bro I'm laying it on the tribe -1.5. Your discounting the Detroit bullpen.
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            • jjgold
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 07-20-05
              • 388208

              #7
              Detroit quit they might be the worst team in the American League
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              • funnyb25
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                • 07-09-09
                • 39663

                #8
                Was tempted to play the Over here
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                • stevenash
                  Moderator
                  • 01-17-11
                  • 66120

                  #9
                  Originally posted by pilebuck13
                  Ask yourself Nash when has a -215 favorite list on Sunday night baseball?
                  Priced high for a reason. Sure the tigers can win but check it out there bullpen is absolutely horrendous I can't back them on this alone. Good luck though bro I'm laying it on the tribe -1.5. Your discounting the Detroit bullpen.
                  No, I factored in the shoddy Detroit leaky pen, I believe that's the reason why Cleveland is -215 instead of -180.

                  My wager is based on Fulmer going deep into the game, if so I think I get to the cashiers window.
                  Anytime you wager a dog at +200 it comes with land mines, I'm what you call a spot underdog bettor, I don't drool over every +200 game on the card, I pick my spots, I think this is a good spot.

                  If Fulmer gets singled to death early, their lineup is good at that, peck, peck, peck than my spot play becomes a shit play.
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                  • CantFeelMyFace
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 01-17-12
                    • 372

                    #10
                    I didnt see this thread and made my own but I agree with you Nash. Lots of value on Tigers here. I got them at +203 i believe.
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                    • Shute
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 03-20-17
                      • 11835

                      #11
                      Originally posted by jjgold
                      Detroit quit they might be the worst team in the American League
                      Nobody quits before all star break
                      What is wrong with you?
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                      • pilebuck13
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 05-15-15
                        • 17920

                        #12
                        Originally posted by stevenash
                        No, I factored in the shoddy Detroit leaky pen, I believe that's the reason why Cleveland is -215 instead of -180.

                        My wager is based on Fulmer going deep into the game, if so I think I get to the cashiers window.
                        Anytime you wager a dog at +200 it comes with land mines, I'm what you call a spot underdog bettor, I don't drool over every +200 game on the card, I pick my spots, I think this is a good spot.

                        If Fulmer gets singled to death early, their lineup is good at that, peck, peck, peck than my spot play becomes a shit play.
                        I hear yah Nash good luck man. Tremendous call if it hits.
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                        • Fidel_CashFlow
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 12-03-12
                          • 53972

                          #13
                          ended up going with Tigers man. +197

                          I think we got a shot Nashy

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                          • DigBick86
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                            • 12-06-10
                            • 1930

                            #14
                            on the over lets cash this mf
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                            • TheMoneyShot
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                              • 02-14-07
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                              #15
                              It's all on Fulmer's shoulders... guy loves to compete within himself.

                              I can't speak for the rest on the team though.

                              Mark my words.... start fading the Tigers after All Star Break. Team is getting old.... and they are showing signs of not caring.
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                              • unde0087
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                                • 03-27-08
                                • 28998

                                #16
                                Was waiting on a game to throw my SBR freeplay on, I will tail you nasher on this one. Let get it.
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                                • unde0087
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                                  • 03-27-08
                                  • 28998

                                  #17
                                  Fuk, nevermind, I missed the boat on this one
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                                  • Otters27
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                                    • 07-14-07
                                    • 30761

                                    #18
                                    Good luck I am on the Indians
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                                    • stevenash
                                      Moderator
                                      • 01-17-11
                                      • 66120

                                      #19
                                      Very impressed with Ryan Blakney so far this game (home plate umpire)
                                      He's been spot on every call.

                                      Yes, he's the same Ryan Blakney that tossed Red Sox manager John Farrell on balk call.

                                      And the very same Ryan Blakney that once punched out Luis Valbuena on a 2 ball 1 strike pitch that he called strike 3. Valbuena turned to Blakney and said "whoa, that's strike two" Blakney said "yeah I know, that's my strike two call"




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                                      • DR225
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 02-24-11
                                        • 2010

                                        #20
                                        That Upton strikeout hurts...
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                                        • jjgold
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 07-20-05
                                          • 388208

                                          #21
                                          Getting approximate 200 at least you're still in the game going to the sixth inning
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                                          • Fidel_CashFlow
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 12-03-12
                                            • 53972

                                            #22
                                            Well got KLUBER out after 5

                                            i knew Upton would do nothing with bases loaded

                                            don't care what his average Is with RISP I never see him come thru

                                            was pissed when lefty Avila walked to bring Upton up

                                            Put ourselves in good position @ + 200 to sneak a nice doggy win in
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                                            • pilebuck13
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 05-15-15
                                              • 17920

                                              #23
                                              Yah got kluber out of there fulmer pitching well hope he can make it threw the 8th for you
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                                              • stevenash
                                                Moderator
                                                • 01-17-11
                                                • 66120

                                                #24
                                                I love these first five innings bets where you get + money on a push.
                                                447352298-1 7/9/17 7:49pm $80.00 $96.00 $176.00 Win 7/9/17 8:05pm MLB Baseball 923 Detroit Tigers 1st 5 Innings +½ +120* vs Cleveland Indians (M Fulmer - R must Start C Kluber - R must Start

                                                Now to complete the daily double.
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                                                • stevenash
                                                  Moderator
                                                  • 01-17-11
                                                  • 66120

                                                  #25
                                                  Here we go, set up like a bowling pin.
                                                  Two on, one out, and Nick the Greek at the plate.
                                                  One time here Nick, one time!
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                                                  • DR225
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 02-24-11
                                                    • 2010

                                                    #26
                                                    Double play incoming to screw us over.
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                                                    • Fidel_CashFlow
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 12-03-12
                                                      • 53972

                                                      #27
                                                      Bases loaded again for 2nd straight inning
                                                      they don't get a run here I got a bad feeling
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                                                      • DR225
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 02-24-11
                                                        • 2010

                                                        #28
                                                        That was lucky!!!
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                                                        • stevenash
                                                          Moderator
                                                          • 01-17-11
                                                          • 66120

                                                          #29
                                                          Suh-weet!
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                                                          • Fidel_CashFlow
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 12-03-12
                                                            • 53972

                                                            #30
                                                            Fair by the length of jjgolds dikk
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                                                            • DR225
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 02-24-11
                                                              • 2010

                                                              #31
                                                              Now sac another run and I"ll start getting confident.
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                                                              • Fidel_CashFlow
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 12-03-12
                                                                • 53972

                                                                #32
                                                                Let's get more
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                                                                • DR225
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 02-24-11
                                                                  • 2010

                                                                  #33
                                                                  That was a strange hit. I think I'm using up all my luck on this game.
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                                                                  • stevenash
                                                                    Moderator
                                                                    • 01-17-11
                                                                    • 66120

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Fidel_CashFlow
                                                                    Let's get more
                                                                    This !!!!
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                                                                    • Fidel_CashFlow
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 12-03-12
                                                                      • 53972

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Kinsler with some ugly swings tonight

                                                                      heres the shithead again with bases loaded
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