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  • will2survive
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 11-26-09
    • 8099

    #1
    Feedback From Joe C. I'm here if anyone needs me.
    Hi guys--I've written for SBR for over 7 years and have lost my job over a misunderstanding (I will swear on my kid on that). Some of you might like me and some hate me. It's all good. I know as much as you do. It was all about the research. SBR has always been good to me except for my former boss misunderstanding and disrespecting me.

    If anyone ever values my opinion, just PM me and I would give my insight (especially with MLB coming up). Like I said, To me, it's all about research. We're all equals here. Not looking for a pity party or to be bashed. SBR was loyal for the most part. Shoot me a pm or even on the forum (I have nothing to hide) and I would just give you my opinion. Who know's? I might ask for your opinion. I do believe in karma and those who "jumped to conclusions", it's on you. Good luck. Thanks SBR managers. You were great to me except for someone with this isolated incident. I am loyal and your faith in me was appreciated.

    Please no bashing, if someone has something negative to say, I'm asking you not to. I can't make you. Lot's of good cappers on here. Good luck in trying to keep your head above water. God bless. Joe C.
  • MickeyMan
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 10-20-09
    • 5091

    #2
    Lakerboy check in
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    • will2survive
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 11-26-09
      • 8099

      #3
      Originally posted by MickeyMan
      Lakerboy check in
      Lakerboy is a good capper and very intelligent. Nothing really negative to say about him. I read his posts. Most are helpful to posters.
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      • pilebuck13
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 05-15-15
        • 17918

        #4
        Can you confirm or deny that sbr member JJ gold even bets sports
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        • will2survive
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 11-26-09
          • 8099

          #5
          Originally posted by pilebuck13
          Can you confirm or deny that sbr member JJ gold even bets sports
          I can't confirm. I've only talked to J.J. on the forum like you all have. Sorry. Obviously, he's a power poster to keep things rolling, but I think anyone can figure that out. Seem's intelligent.
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          • jjgold
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 07-20-05
            • 388179

            #6
            Are you a winning capper?
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            • ROFLcopter
              SBR MVP
              • 06-16-10
              • 4446

              #7
              You are a writer who lost their job over a disunderstanding - uhhhh ok?
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              • LT Profits
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 10-27-06
                • 90963

                #8
                Originally posted by jjgold
                Are you a winning capper?
                He had winning MLB seasons every year he wrote for SBR.
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                • Dirty Sanchez
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 03-01-10
                  • 16031

                  #9
                  I remember writing once...even passed third grade
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                  • funnyb25
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 07-09-09
                    • 39663

                    #10
                    what is a disunderstanding?
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                    • funnyb25
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 07-09-09
                      • 39663

                      #11
                      Ok, i found it... it is similar to a misunderstanding but a disunderstanding is when the the speaker blames the source...

                      I got it now...
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                      • RudyRuetigger
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 08-24-10
                        • 65084

                        #12
                        ok so what happened

                        otherwise saloon this shit and lock thread
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                        • The Giant
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 01-21-12
                          • 21480

                          #13
                          Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                          ok so what happened

                          otherwise saloon this shit and lock thread
                          Exactly.

                          Tell us the mod involved and what went down.

                          We want details.
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                          • funnyb25
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 07-09-09
                            • 39663

                            #14
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                            • Dirty Sanchez
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 03-01-10
                              • 16031

                              #15
                              In the military when nothing is mentioned we assume that there had to be a goat involved and somewhere a bottle of Chloroform and a rag had a place
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                              • will2survive
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 11-26-09
                                • 8099

                                #16
                                Originally posted by jjgold
                                Are you a winning capper?
                                I would say a streaky capper. If anyone followed my picks on hot streaks, they would've done quite well. Yes in the sports that I was assigned to do that were my strong sports. College basketball...eh average. I would say one of the better cappers with the great research. Baseball-definitely a winning capper! In the early years, I was assigned a lot of NBA. Winning capper with NBA and NHL. College sports were my weaknesses. Would ride teams like Gonzaga (common sense).
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                                • will2survive
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 11-26-09
                                  • 8099

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by LT Profits
                                  He had winning MLB seasons every year he wrote for SBR.

                                  Thanks LT. I appreciate the support. I'm going to miss this job.
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                                  • will2survive
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 11-26-09
                                    • 8099

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                    ok so what happened

                                    otherwise saloon this shit and lock thread

                                    No problem. I'm like you. I don't mess around and I get right to the point. I was late with some work. I have health issues (which I have always mentioned here) and I have a 3 year old despite being 45. I have no family to take care of my autistic son (I'm on disability) from the surgeries and I take care of him. Occasionally, he'd have appointments and the parts of the time, it would be difficult to work because he's the love of my life and autistic. If work was late, I would select later games to cap to compensate. (not saying this is right, but I always provided quality work-never let the bettors down). I would work EVERY SINGLE DAY for over 7 years. The new editor in chief was really nice, but not adamant about handing in work on time (of course work should be on time. It's just been a rough couple of months. She assigned me college basketball every single day just like I did baseball every single day. I accepted in and BAM....March Madness came and my name wasn't on the schedule anymore. She knew that I needed a supplemental income and SBR has ALWAYS been good to me and I think that I've been good to them. Was having a skype conversation with her and she wouldn't talk on the phone. I had to message her. I was upset being replaced at the last second by someone who I was better then. I never use expletives because she was cool in the past. I asked her am I fired or not because she was wishy washy and she knew that I had a kid and I loved the job. I referred to a former editor being a jerk. She thought that I was talking about her, but I wasn't. I sent her an email saying that she misunderstood. She never answered. She insulted me during a conversation asking me what do I have to offer? Duh...I've been good enough for over 7 years and am an experienced writer. The bottom line is that she thought I called her a jerk and I swear on my kid that I didn't. I'm one of those people that if I see work that's posted and my work is better, I would politely let her know, but not to the point of risking my job. I love this job and as I stated before, I wrote almost every day for almost 7 years. I know that late work is not acceptable, but she didn't give me any fair warning and she's telling me that March Madness is the 2nd most important time of the year. This is also a person that was a regular editor who ASKED FOR MY HELP BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T KNOW A BETTING TERM. SBR is part of my daily life and now it's not. It really hurt my ego and feelings, more importantly. If you think that a worker calls you a jerk, get confirmation and don't jump the gun. Would I really call her a jerk if I wanted a job with SBR? C'mon! Sorry, typing in the middle of the night, in the dark, and my kid is sleeping. If this response seems like a run-on sentence, it's because I'm tired and sad about the situation. I'm not like a lot of other writers. I'm like LT. I post on here with you guys because I'm one of the guys and don't think that I'm any better than anyone because of the job title.
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                                    • will2survive
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 11-26-09
                                      • 8099

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by funnyb25
                                      what is a disunderstanding?
                                      the misunderstanding was written below. Editor in chief thought I called her a jerk and I certainly didn't. She didn't like skype calls and she misunderstood a written message. I tried to clarify through email, but she's not replying. Very sad to me.
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                                      • will2survive
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 11-26-09
                                        • 8099

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by ROFLcopter
                                        You are a writer who lost their job over a disunderstanding - uhhhh ok?
                                        YES! and I loved this job and needed this job (I have an autistic kid and it's not cheap and I also have my own health issues) Everyone with a legitimate question get's a reply.
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                                        • will2survive
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 11-26-09
                                          • 8099

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by The Giant
                                          Exactly.

                                          Tell us the mod involved and what went down.



                                          We want details.
                                          It's not a "MOD". It's the editor-in-chief where the articles are concerned. Nice person, but misunderstood what I said through skype messaging because she wouldn't take my call. I get the feeling that she would see my messages and not answer them occasionally. That said, this isn't proven. Just my opinion and I did get along well with her.
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                                          • juicername
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 10-14-15
                                            • 6906

                                            #22
                                            I seem to remember you being involved in some controversy last MLB season when you clearly had written up one team to win, then tried to take credit for the other team when they won because you had entered the wrong pick.

                                            Did something similar happen now for you to lose the job or do you have only your poor spelling to blame? "Disunderstanding" is not the only mistake in the OP ...
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                                            • will2survive
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 11-26-09
                                              • 8099

                                              #23
                                              If anyone has any more questions, I'll look at them later. Thanks LT for the support. Losing this job really breaks my heart. I know guys think that this reply is sappy, but loving what you do is a great thing. It really hurts.
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                                              • will2survive
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 11-26-09
                                                • 8099

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by juicername
                                                I seem to remember you being involved in some controversy last MLB season when you clearly had written up one team to win, then tried to take credit for the other team when they won because you had entered the wrong pick.

                                                Did something similar happen now for you to lose the job or do you have only your poor spelling to blame? "Disunderstanding" is not the only mistake in the OP ...
                                                HAHA. Never claimed to be a fantastic speller. Editors fix spelling mistakes and I'm brutally honest. If I say or do something, it's totally true. We're here for our knowledge and to help the bettors prosper. A spelling error doesn't define the quality of work. In fact, after handing work in, the editors miss spelling errors. Go on Yahoo. They miss spelling errors also. Bottom line is that I would never lie regarding my "former position here". Too much to lose.
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                                                • Surfjack
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 01-13-17
                                                  • 525

                                                  #25
                                                  God bless you bra and your kid

                                                  Wish you the best luck ahead
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                                                  • will2survive
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 11-26-09
                                                    • 8099

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by juicername
                                                    I seem to remember you being involved in some controversy last MLB season when you clearly had written up one team to win, then tried to take credit for the other team when they won because you had entered the wrong pick.

                                                    Did something similar happen now for you to lose the job or do you have only your poor spelling to blame? "Disunderstanding" is not the only mistake in the OP ...
                                                    I just "edited" it. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
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                                                    • will2survive
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 11-26-09
                                                      • 8099

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Surfjack
                                                      God bless you bra and your kid

                                                      Wish you the best luck ahead
                                                      I appreciate that. Thank you!
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                                                      • juicername
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 10-14-15
                                                        • 6906

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by will2survive
                                                        HAHA. Never claimed to be a fantastic speller. Editors fix spelling mistakes and I'm brutally honest. If I say or do something, it's totally true. We're here for our knowledge and to help the bettors prosper. A spelling error doesn't define the quality of work. In fact, after handing work in, the editors miss spelling errors. Go on Yahoo. They miss spelling errors also. Bottom line is that I would never lie regarding my "former position here". Too much to lose.
                                                        Fair enough, I agree that good writing is about more than spelling. Sucks to hear you lose a job you really liked. Hope you can find equal happiness somewhere else, I know there are a lot of sites out there looking for people to write up games.
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                                                        • will2survive
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 11-26-09
                                                          • 8099

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by juicername
                                                          Fair enough, I agree that good writing is about more than spelling. Sucks to hear you lose a job you really liked. Hope you can find equal happiness somewhere else, I know there are a lot of sites out there looking for people to write up games.
                                                          Thanks Juicer. Means a lot to me. Hopefully, I can keep "my head above water". Thanks, friend. Good luck in 2017!
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                                                          • Sam Odom
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 10-30-05
                                                            • 58063

                                                            #30
                                                            pick more winners... money will take care of itself

                                                            Good Luck
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                                                            • will2survive
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 11-26-09
                                                              • 8099

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                                              pick more winners... money will take care of itself

                                                              Good Luck
                                                              Glad I caught this. Thanks, Sam. Will do!
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                                                              • manny24
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 10-22-07
                                                                • 20046

                                                                #32
                                                                who is the editor in chief with the hair trigger ?!?!?

                                                                if we're gonna act we are going to need names Joe
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                                                                • Russian Rocket
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 09-02-12
                                                                  • 43910

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by manny24
                                                                  who is the editor in chief with the hair trigger ?!?!?

                                                                  if we're gonna act we are going to need names Joe


                                                                  Manny call me right after breakfast, skin.
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                                                                  • jimminn
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 04-23-11
                                                                    • 1176

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Women bosses can be real bitches. Think they have to rule the world. Why did we ever even give them the right to vote ?
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