Clemson Beats Bama +1044

jjgold · 12-13-16, 05:54 AM

You never know

They eventually have to lose

grease lightnin · 12-13-16, 07:27 AM

Well... it's basically a parlay because Clemson has to beat the Buckeyes before they get to play Bama...

Did you realize this?

Seems like you have the playoff teams mixed up

ApricotSinner32 · 12-13-16, 09:30 AM

Washington might beat alabama guy. Value in washington ml

Calgunner23 · 12-13-16, 10:48 AM

It was 4 in the morning, cut the guy some slack.

DOM-Ganador · 12-13-16, 11:27 AM

whooops. # seems way off with paylaying 2 dogs....but this would be an epic win.

reigle9 · 12-13-16, 12:12 PM

Originally posted by DOM-Ganador

whooops. # seems way off with paylaying 2 dogs....but this would be an epic win.

It would be +1020 if you could parlay the lines as of now, so the +1044 is good.

I think dimes pays a little better than usual, so it's probably right on +1044.

LT Profits · 12-13-16, 12:27 PM

Only team with a chance to beat Alabama is Ohio State. Bama will manhandle a finesse team like Washington and Clemson defense is garbage.

Philmill · 12-13-16, 01:10 PM

Alabama's defense is to good....bama will have there way with Washington and Clemson

thunderous · 12-13-16, 01:47 PM

Originally posted by reigle9

It would be +1020 if you could parlay the lines as of now, so the +1044 is good.

I think dimes pays a little better than usual, so it's probably right on +1044.

Not sure about the nice number.

Does it require 3 things to happen?

Bama to beat Washington, Clemson to beat Ohio St and then Clemson to beat Bama?

If that is the case then 1044 is a bad bad number. I'd rather bet straight MLs

reigle9 · 12-13-16, 01:50 PM

The outcome of the games are irrelevant to what I was talking about...

grease lightnin · 12-13-16, 01:51 PM

Originally posted by thunderous

Not sure about the nice number.

Does it require 3 things to happen?

Bama to beat Washington, Clemson to beat Ohio St and then Clemson to beat Bama?

If that is the case then 1044 is a bad bad number. I'd rather bet straight MLs

This. Terrible bet, imo

reigle9 · 12-13-16, 01:52 PM

Originally posted by reigle9

The outcome of the games are irrelevant to what I was talking about...

This.

reigle9 · 12-13-16, 01:53 PM

I'll hold your hands and explain it to you.

Look at the post i was replying to. I was just saying the +1044 # is better than if you could parlay the current clemson lines. That's all.

BigdaddyQH · 12-13-16, 01:54 PM

Obviously if Clemson or 'Bama lose their semi final game, he loses his wager. Let's face it. NO ONE would give Clemson +1044 and state that they must play each other for their to be action.

INVEGA MAN · 12-13-16, 02:14 PM

not a bad bet

LT Profits · 12-13-16, 02:32 PM

Originally posted by reigle9

I'll hold your hands and explain it to you.

Look at the post i was replying to. I was just saying the +1044 # is better than if you could parlay the current clemson lines. That's all.

You can't look at it that way though because if Washington somehow upsets Alabama, you are screwed. Way to maximize your profit is parlaying Clemson AND Alabama in semis to Clemson in Championship.

hawkwind · 12-13-16, 02:36 PM

Originally posted by Philmill

Alabama's defense is to good....bama will have there way with Washington and Clemson

Bamas defense is very good but teams have ample time to try and counter that and if they do Bamas offense is mediocre at best so they can be beat.

LT Profits · 12-13-16, 02:41 PM

Originally posted by hawkwind

Bamas defense is very good but teams have ample time to try and counter that and if they do Bamas offense is mediocre at best so they can be beat.

But how?

I get what you are saying with the added preparation time, but there is not much Washington can do vs. a defense that is only vulnerable to mobile quarterbacks or quarterbacks that can throw the deep ball. Browning is neither.

rizespor · 12-13-16, 02:46 PM

I think Clemson has better shot than Ohio st

hawkwind · 12-13-16, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

But how?

I get what you are saying with the added preparation time, but there is not much Washington can do vs. a defense that is only vulnerable to mobile quarterbacks or quarterbacks that can throw the deep ball. Browning is neither.

Absolutely agree was referring more to the second round matchup

Goat Milk · 12-13-16, 02:55 PM

Guys I did the math. This line is the best value.

LT Profits · 12-13-16, 03:54 PM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

Guys I did the math. This line is the best value.

No, I told you what the best value was in Post #17. If this is really the play you want, you would have gotten better odds by parlaying Clemson and Alabama ML in semis and, if that wins, parlaying full return to Clemson in Championship.

LT Profits · 12-13-16, 03:55 PM

Originally posted by rizespor

I think Clemson has better shot than Ohio st

Ohio State has the far superior defense between those two, you need a physical defense like theirs to have a chance to compete with Bama.

LT Profits · 12-13-16, 03:56 PM

Originally posted by hawkwind

Absolutely agree was referring more to the second round matchup

But whoever wins semis will not have much extra time to prepare for Bama, will be 9 days between games.

Goat Milk · 12-13-16, 04:00 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

No, I told you what the best value was in Post #17. If this is really the play you want, you would have gotten better odds by parlaying Clemson and Alabama ML in semis and, if that wins, parlaying full return to Clemson in Championship.

Clemson is +135
Bama is -950

Clemson in the finals will be about +250 against Bama

That's +809.

LT Profits · 12-13-16, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

Clemson is +135
Bama is -950

Clemson in the finals will be about +250 against Bama

That's +809.

Clemson is +365 vs. Bama, parlay is +1290

rizespor · 12-13-16, 04:17 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

Ohio State has the far superior defense between those two, you need a physical defense like theirs to have a chance to compete with Bama.

I'm not convinced. I assume this is based on your model? Clemson didn't really give max effort in some of their games

Goat Milk · 12-13-16, 04:20 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

Clemson is +365 vs. Bama, parlay is +1290

Yeah but that prop is not parlayable at the moment, right? Or is it? That's a hypothetical. If Clemson makes championship and beats Ohio State convincingly, I project them to be about +260ish against Bama. Don't see them being +365. I see that line being hung out right now in reference to how books project this'll play out, and how they project these teams right now.

Having 1 month off almost changes everything. These teams are not NFL teams. Clemson is better than Ohio State. They have more NFL prospects on their team than Ohio State. That's all that matters.
Whatever the case, I already placed the bet LT. And I think it'll win too.

LT Profits · 12-13-16, 04:32 PM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

Yeah but that prop is not parlayable at the moment, right? Or is it? That's a hypothetical. If Clemson makes championship and beats Ohio State convincingly, I project them to be about +260ish against Bama. Don't see them being +365. I see that line being hung out right now in reference to how books project this'll play out, and how they project these teams right now.

Having 1 month off almost changes everything. These teams are not NFL teams. Clemson is better than Ohio State. They have more NFL prospects on their team than Ohio State. That's all that matters.
Whatever the case, I already placed the bet LT. And I think it'll win too.

Yes it is playable and has action only if teams meet.

NCAA Division I - College Football Playoff - Championship Game


teams must meet in championship game for action
Mon 1/9	28071 Washington U	+3 -115	+135
8:00PM	28072 Ohio State	-3 -105	-155
teams must meet in championship game for action
Mon 1/9	28073 Washington U	+1 -110	+100
8:00PM	28074 Clemson	-1 -110	-120
teams must meet in championship game for action
Mon 1/9	28075 Alabama	-9½ -110	-350
8:00PM	28076 Ohio State	+9½ -110	+290
teams must meet in championship game for action
Mon 1/9	28077 Alabama	-12 -110	-460
8:00PM	28078 Clemson	+12 -110	+365

Goat Milk · 12-13-16, 05:01 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

Yes it is playable and has action only if teams meet.

NCAA Division I - College Football Playoff - Championship Game


teams must meet in championship game for action
Mon 1/9	28071 Washington U	+3 -115	+135
8:00PM	28072 Ohio State	-3 -105	-155
teams must meet in championship game for action
Mon 1/9	28073 Washington U	+1 -110	+100
8:00PM	28074 Clemson	-1 -110	-120
teams must meet in championship game for action
Mon 1/9	28075 Alabama	-9½ -110	-350
8:00PM	28076 Ohio State	+9½ -110	+290
teams must meet in championship game for action
Mon 1/9	28077 Alabama	-12 -110	-460
8:00PM	28078 Clemson	+12 -110	+365

Na bro just tried it, you can't parlay Clemson to beat Bama and Clemson to beat Ohio State.

Those odds are not gonna be the same if Clemson beats Ohio State easily.

Telling you, these odds are legit.

Sure taking the +365 is great right now but rather get the better odds.

LT Profits · 12-13-16, 05:10 PM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

Na bro just tried it, you can't parlay Clemson to beat Bama and Clemson to beat Ohio State.

Obviously not.

You are supposed to parlay Clemson over Ohio State and Alabama over Washington. Then if that hits, put total return on Clemson over Alabama. Bama will stay a double-digit fave, so ML should not change much.

Goat Milk · 12-13-16, 05:17 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

Obviously not.

You are supposed to parlay Clemson over Ohio State and Alabama over Washington. Then if that hits, put total return on Clemson over Alabama. Bama will stay a double-digit fave, so ML should not change much.

Lol then that's not a +1290 parlay any longer bro. Your parlay is more like +1100. Watch the math below.

You get the bama clemson parlay for +160....
Then let's say you win $160. You put that $160 +$100 (so $260) on Clemson to win at +365 = $949. 950 + 160.... So you win around 1100 bucks total. That's IF it stays at +365, which guaranteed it won't if Clemson beats Ohio state convincingly.

In both these scenarios, if Clemson loses in the championship, you lose $100. I think I did that math right?

So my parlay is still better because Clemson isn't gonna be +365 in the finals.

LT Profits · 12-13-16, 05:23 PM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

Lol then that's not a +1290 parlay any longer bro. Your parlay is more like +1100. Watch the math below.

You get the bama clemson parlay for +160....
Then let's say you win $160. You put that $160 +$100 (so $260) on Clemson to win at +365 = $949. 950 + 160.... So you win around 1100 bucks total. That's IF it stays at +365, which guaranteed it won't if Clemson beats Ohio state convincingly.

In both these scenarios, if Clemson loses in the championship, you lose $100. I think I did that math right?

So my parlay is still better because Clemson isn't gonna be +365 in the finals.

My bad. +135, -950 and +365 is +1108. Still better than your +1044.

I was looking at Mathematical Odds instead of True Parlay Odds. http://www.sportsbookreview.com/pick...ay-calculator/

Goat Milk · 12-13-16, 05:26 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

My bad. +135, -950 and +365 is +1108. Still better than your +1044.

I was looking at Mathematical Odds instead of True Parlay Odds. http://www.sportsbookreview.com/pick...ay-calculator/

You good np.

Don't think it's better though like I said clemson not gonna be +365 in the ship. Think my odds will be slightly better, but gonna be a matter of 40 bucks prolly. Nothing major. Either bet is good. Perception is low on clemson. I just know when you take 1 month off, anything can happen. Especially with bunch of kids. You can throw every stat you have to cap this game out the window, literally.