David Shaw is a dumb ass!

[Mac4Lyfe]

Shaw is a stupid mofo. Stanford went up 12 with 2 minutes to go in the game and this dumb ass kicks the PAT instead of going for 2. This fukkin idiot took out his starting QB who was 10 for 10 to start the 2nd half. Then called predictable play after play. This fukker looked like he was trying to keep the game close. How does the coach of Stanford be this fukking dumb?

Black Lives Matter as long as it isn't this dummy...

and yes, I had Stanford -14

[rm18]

He had -12.5 and +15

[chico2663]

i had 13 phew

[kidcudi92]

-12.5

[19th Hole]

Tough break Mac.
-12.5's -13's were everywhere....Closed at -11.5
Early lines are not always sharp lines.
K St got plenty of late action.

-14 is a tough number...
But I smell what you stepped in.

[brooks85]

He had -12.5 and +15

acoochy would be proud

[Mac4Lyfe]

Tough break Mac.
-12.5's -13's were everywhere....Closed at -11.5
Early lines are not always sharp lines.
K St got plenty of late action.

-14 is a tough number...
But I smell what you stepped in.

I knew i was fukked when the line dropped to 11.5. I didnt think Shaw's dumb ass would fukk me though. How do you not go for 2? I was hoping KSU would come back just so he would have to explain his stupidity.

[jjgold]

He is dumb

got job because of quota laws

[jtoler]

Stanford Cardinal (Pac-12 Conference) (2011–present)
2011	Stanford	11–2	8–1	T–1st (North)	L Fiesta†	7	7
2012	Stanford	12–2	8–1	T–1st (North)	W Rose†	6	7
2013	Stanford	11–3	7–2	T–1st (North)	L Rose†	10	11
2014	Stanford	8–5	5–4	2nd (North)	W Foster Farms
2015	Stanford	12–2	8–1	1st (North)	W Rose†	3	3
2016	Stanford	1–0	0–0	(North)
Stanford:		55–14	36–9

[RavensFan2k3]

He is dumb

got job because of quota laws

Shut the penetrate up man.

[RavensFan2k3]

I couldn't tell if this post was sarcasm or not

[irishstuey]

All the racism aside...it doesn't make any sense to not go for 2. Had 13.5, but whateva.

[ZINISTER]

Shut the penetrate up man.

To the rescue! c'mon man. Freedom of speech. You know that. Sit for the national anthem do what you do. But, when it is against youz its be different. Show you right! Fo Shizzle. Weak focks for acting so tough all the time. Youuz be getzin youz feelns hurts awful easy. Hard MO FO's lol

[ZINISTER]

All the racism aside...it doesn't make any sense to not go for 2. Had 13.5, but whateva.

It is racist. He knew no black boyz be bettin Stanford,

[jjgold]

He has the inability to think in crucial moments he's just a figurehead

[RavensFan2k3]

All the racism aside...it doesn't make any sense to not go for 2. Had 13.5, but whateva.

Lol right. It literally made no sense to have gone for 2. Sorry you all lost your bet, but the coach made the right call.

[RavensFan2k3]

To the rescue! c'mon man. Freedom of speech. You know that. Sit for the national anthem do what you do. But, when it is against youz its be different. Show you right! Fo Shizzle. Weak focks for acting so tough all the time. Youuz be getzin youz feelns hurts awful easy. Hard MO FO's lol

Huh?? Coach made a right call in going for one. Going for two should have never even been considered. So he made the right call and now he is dumb and was hired for quota laws? People on this board are so ridiculous

[irishstuey]

Lol right. It literally made no sense to have gone for 2. Sorry you all lost your bet, but the coach made the right call.

Lol, you penetrating stupid. You can Google and find the math on what to do at 12 up at this point in the game.

[M.W.]

Shaw is a stupid mofo. Stanford went up 12 with 2 minutes to go in the game and this dumb ass kicks the PAT instead of going for 2. This fukkin idiot took out his starting QB who was 10 for 10 to start the 2nd half. Then called predictable play after play. This fukker looked like he was trying to keep the game close. How does the coach of Stanford be this fukking dumb?

You left out the part him not expecting the obvious onside kick after the safety.

[M.W.]

Huh?? Coach made a right call in going for one. Going for two should have never even been considered. So he made the right call and now he is dumb and was hired for quota laws? People on this board are so ridiculous

Wow -- you are clueless. You have to go for two in that situation. The chance of the opponent missing one of two PAT kicks (so that you don't get beat if you opponent scores two TDs) is way lower than the chance that you make the two-point conversion (so that you don't get beat if you opponent scores two TDs). It's not a close cal at all, and if you don't understand that, well . . . .

[RavensFan2k3]

Lol, you penetrating stupid. You can Google and find the math on what to do at 12 up at this point in the game.

Wow -- you are clueless. You have to go for two in that situation. The chance of the opponent missing one of two PAT kicks (so that you don't get beat if you opponent scores two TDs) is way lower than the chance that you make the two-point conversion (so that you don't get beat if you opponent scores two TDs). It's not a close cal at all, and if you don't understand that, well . . . .

You think with 2 min left in the game Stanford was worried about KSU scoring not one but two touchdowns? Are you kidding me? If i was facing a team that could score then sure, but 23 point lead as Stanford against an offense of KSU, I'm confident my defense can hold them

[irishstuey]

You think with 2 min left in the game Stanford was worried about KSU scoring not one but two touchdowns? Are you kidding me? If i was facing a team that could score then sure, but 23 point lead as Stanford against an offense of KSU, I'm confident my defense can hold them

KSU just went 70 yards for a TD in under 2 minutes. They almost scored again on the last drive. Crazy shit happens sometimes. Either you are a troll or just don't know shit about football.

[RavensFan2k3]

KSU just went 70 yards for a TD in under 2 minutes. They almost scored again on the last drive. Crazy shit happens sometimes. Either you are a troll or just don't know shit about football.

Needless to say, they went for one to be up 13, and the game ended with them still up 13. Again sorry if you had Stanford for by 14 or more, but that doesn't make Shaw an idiot for not going for 2. And you're right I'm a clueless troll who doesn't know shit about football. Best of luck this season.

[Seattle Slew]

It's amazing, we're 2 days into the season and already this clock/scoring mistakes from these coaches is in full effect. First, the App State coach blew the Tennessee game and now Shaw can't count.

It's only just begun.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Needless to say, they went for one to be up 13, and the game ended with them still up 13. Again sorry if you had Stanford for by 14 or more, but that doesn't make Shaw an idiot for not going for 2. And you're right I'm a clueless troll who doesn't know shit about football. Best of luck this season.

Not going for 2 is a STUPID move. It was the wrong move. You cannot explain going for 2 in that situation. Shaw is a good coach with a better record at Stanford than Harbaugh but this was not one of his better games. He made too many mistakes in this game and was lucky to not have lost this game. Butch Jones did the same stupid shit last year against Florida (going for 1) and lost. Even when questioned that idiot said his card said to go for 1. EVERYONE told him to tear that card up.

[BaseballChaser]

Needless to say, they went for one to be up 13, and the game ended with them still up 13. Again sorry if you had Stanford for by 14 or more, but that doesn't make Shaw an idiot for not going for 2. And you're right I'm a clueless troll who doesn't know shit about football. Best of luck this season.

You have to go for 2 to make it 14. Being up 12 as opposed to 13 means nothing. As being up 14 is actually relevant

[RavensFan2k3]

The only reason why this is even an issue here because you guys had Stanford at 13.5 or higher. That's the only reason. Like I said if they were facing a team with a potent offense, i'd agree with you. But in this case, don't see the problem.

[Mac4Lyfe]

The only reason why this is even an issue here because you guys had Stanford at 13.5 or higher. That's the only reason. Like I said if they were facing a team with a potent offense, i'd agree with you. But in this case, don't see the problem.

KSU made it a game and actually had a chance to win. Did you watch the game? McCaffrey finally broke one to put the game out of reach but it was definitely nail biting time near the end. What does KSU's lack of offense have to do with proper situational football? Shaw screwed up just like App State's coach screwed up against UT. At least be honest about your mistakes.

[ikid2groove]

For a dumbass his team seems to be solid every year

[Mac4Lyfe]

For a dumbass his team seems to be solid every year

He's a good coach but that was a dumb ass decision. I'm not sure why you guys want to excuse bad play?

[ikid2groove]

Shaw is top 5 coach in college football- he's always been conservative and his teams are well coach!!! not to mention- Stanford don't get the 5star recruits!!!

[Mac4Lyfe]

Shaw is top 5 coach in college football- he's always been conservative and his teams are well coach!!! not to mention- Stanford don't get the 5star recruits!!!

That was not a conservative call... it was the wrong call. Why can't you admit it?

[BaseballChaser]

The only reason why this is even an issue here because you guys had Stanford at 13.5 or higher. That's the only reason. Like I said if they were facing a team with a potent offense, i'd agree with you. But in this case, don't see the problem.

I had State +14.5. (as well as Colorado State) And it doesn't matter about a "potent offense" 1 big play makes it a 1 score game. Hell a touchdown with 10 seconds left gives you a chance with an onside and a hail mary. This shouldn't even be having to be discussed because of how no brainer it is to go for 2.

Shaw is top 5 coach in college football- he's always been conservative and his teams are well coach!!! not to mention- Stanford don't get the 5star recruits!!!

It's not "conservative" it's wrong. What is he helping himself out by taking the 1? And what is he potentially hurting his team if they miss the 2? This isn't even a game theory scenario like how going for 2 when you're up by 7 is. This is just a standard you have to go for 2.

And yeah the only reason it's getting talked about on a sports betting forum is because it effected the spread and the outcome depending when you bet. But, that doesn't mean there's no validity that Shaw was flat out wrong.
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[The Giant]

Lol right. It literally made no sense to have gone for 2. Sorry you all lost your bet, but the coach made the right call.

I'm guessing you weren't a math major.

[M.W.]

The only reason why this is even an issue here because you guys had Stanford at 13.5 or higher. That's the only reason. Like I said if they were facing a team with a potent offense, i'd agree with you. But in this case, don't see the problem.

No, it's a stupid move for someone trying to win a game, which I didn't bet on (by the way). You are really embarrassing yourself.