NFL survivor pools, can you tell if they are legit?

[StackinGreen]

I know of a couple of survivor pools, one mid range and another HUGE, the number of particular pools (lots of contestants for lower stakes, other high roller type pools with big time entry fees and fewer total guys/entries) within the large framework is really quite extensive ... I've even done several of them.

Now, I have no reason to believe that there is anything foul going on with these, but my question is, how does anyone know? Beyond that, let's say they do pay, how would you know what they charge for a "management fee"? How do they get the cash to you? Is it all cash?

Are you expected to tip even though there is no mention of that anywhere, when and if you win?

I'm wondering if anyone has any insight. Some of these pools are serious money if you hit.

[blackHIPPY]

well you can usually tell how many ppl are in them so just multiply the buyin by entries and bam you'll know the vig

[StackinGreen]

well you can usually tell how many ppl are in them so just multiply the buyin by entries and bam you'll know the vig

Thanks for the response, yes I'm aware of this, what's your take on if they have a handler or other made up fee, or if they "expect" a tip from the winners. What would the acceptable tip be and if you didn't (and didn't ever want to participate again in their pool), would you be considered a "stiff"?

[thetrinity]

i do one and he sends a total amount every week starting at beginning with how many are in it

he keeps nothing, i would give him a tip for sure if i won or chopped

[StackinGreen]

Boys, let's say the winner takes home 100k or more. There are literally thousands of entries and the guy has set up a website to boot to handle all this over all those years ... you honestly believe they don't rationalize this and make money? I find it hard to believe that these guys don't make half a year's living off of this. Most people don't even know what is really going on ... that's why I'm asking, neither do I

You get all these assurances (again, I'm not saying there is hanky panky) but why can no one give you clear evidence of what goes on>

[Bcatswin]

If it isn't clear to you my advice would be not to participate as the 3 im in i know whats going on completely.

[StackinGreen]

Thing is, there has to be some privacy for winners.

I got some answers yesterday --- some good ones, but for the smaller pots, not super large ones.

[BigdaddyQH]

Where you will run into trouble is easy. IF there are literally hundreds of players in these pools, it is easy to slip in ringers. These guys are working for the person running the pool. They make various picks determined by a computer. Odds are that one of these guys runs the table. Bye bye money.

[StackinGreen]

The picks are all posted once the games start. How would a computer matter? I get that a lot of people make picks early in the week, but I'm not sure how many do.

[ThaWoj]

I do the ones online using leaguesafe.
I do a $5 and a couple $25s. I use the forum that contains "roto"

[klemopixx]

Follow this criteria:
Always pick a home team
Never a division game
Take a mediocre team against a weak team rather than pick a strong team over the mediocre.
Works well for me

[clockwise1965]

Ive done a survivor nfl pool the last 3 years. Each person puts in $750 and you get a spread sheet each week of who has what team and what teams they have chosen too date.

The guy who runs it takes a 5% admin fee. Like a rack in poker.

Ive never made it past the 7th week.