Democratic Convention Live Thread

[Dr.Gonzo]

So your telling me you really didn't understand then. I guess just like Stefan, you can't let go & want to be right.

No, I understand his arguments, and he makes some coherent points.

Unfortunately, they are born of false assumptions.

[Dr.Gonzo]

Respond to my assertion on his behalf Khicks.

He's complaining about corporatism and corruption, not capitalism.

[khicks26]

No, I understand his arguments, and he makes some coherent points.

Unfortunately, they are born of false assumptions.

Then you haven't taken the time to see how things really are. Nor do you understand economics. You take one opinion as fact to fit your agenda. Just like most white nationalist who go around calling people cucks.

When in reality the name cuck is more fitting to themselves as they look for a strong authoritarian male to fill their need to be told what to do & fall in line. I'm sure some even live out this twisted fantasy they lay on others.

Which one are you?

[Dr.Gonzo]

Then you haven't taken the time to see how things really are. Nor do you understand economics. You take one opinion as fact to fit your agenda. Just like most white nationalist who go around calling people cucks.

When in reality the name cuck is more fitting to themselves as they look for a strong authoritarian male to fill their need to be told what to do & fall in line. I'm sure some even live out this twisted fantasy they lay on others.

Which one are you?

This is a pathetic display of projection.

Just like the phobic slur, it's just the lefts way of calling people who disagree with them a pussy, even though they claim to be against that.

Cuck is a description, if the shoe fits, it fits.

[khicks26]

Respond to my assertion on his behalf Khicks.

He's complaining about corporatism and corruption, not capitalism.

He's telling you the corporatism and corruption are a by-product of capitalism. But your to caught up in cultural marxism to know that Marx offers a well thought out critique of capitalism, You think anyone that listens is a communist.

[Dr.Gonzo]

Practically every leftist on here advocates for soft, feelings based policy and then calls you a pussy because you disagree politically.

[khicks26]

This is a pathetic display of projection.

Just like the phobic slur, it's just the lefts way of calling people who disagree with them a pussy, even though they claim to be against that.

Cuck is a description, if the shoe fits, it fits.

You do wear it well.

[JIBBBY]

Let's recap -

The liberal Democratic direction for Hillary in this election is -

1) Praise and lift up the BLM movement, praise blacks over any other race, make it more difficult for white cops to do their job as they are now getting slaughtered on the streets.. Pretend that there is no growing racial divide between blacks and whites..

2) Love all Muslims as they pose no threat to the US, mean while Islamic terrorism around the world continues to happen regularly.. Welcome in 1000's of more Syrian Muslim refugees, give them money and residency here in America while expecting them all to obey and conform to American laws and our way of life... Turn a blind eye to any potential terrorist threat these Syrian refugees may pose.....

3) Illegal Mexican immigrants should be welcomed and rewarded with US citizenship status for coming into America illegally.. Illegal immigration with Mexicans and Chinese is not a problem it's a blessing.. The unsecure Mexican borders is not an issue as Islamic extremists will never think to enter in there.. Our bordering States continue to remain safe and uneffected by illegal immigration. Millions more are welcome.. Yeah right!!

YOU GOTTA BE NUTS TO VOTE FOR HILLARY!!!!

[khicks26]

Practically every leftist on here advocates for soft, feelings based policy and then calls you a pussy because you disagree politically.

No that's what you do.

[Dr.Gonzo]

He's telling you the corporatism and corruption are a by-product of capitalism. But your to caught up in cultural marxism to know that Marx offers a well thought out critique of capitalism, You think anyone that listens is a communist.

What evidence can you produce to assert that corporatism and corruption are a by-product of capitalism as opposed to a failing of government.

If I'm not allowed to make my case for theoretical capitalism because of practical limitations than that restraint must also apply to you.

Where is an example of a honest, and non-corruptible government?

[Dr.Gonzo]

You do wear it well.

Accuse me of being a white supremacist and a traitor in the same breath.

Ridiculous.

[khicks26]

What evidence can you produce to assert that corporatism and corruption are a by-product of capitalism as opposed to a failing of government.

If I'm not allowed to make my case for theoretical capitalism because of practical limitations than that restraint must also apply to you.

Where is an example of a honest, and non-corruptible government?

If you need me to prove that. You have not been paying attention. Get out of the basement.

[khicks26]

Accuse me of being a white supremacist and a traitor in the same breath.

Ridiculous.

Yes your quite Ridiculous.

[Dr.Gonzo]

If you need me to prove that. You have not been paying attention. Get out of the basement.

You can't prove it, nor can you cite any practical examples.

I don't believe you can prove government is not inherently corrupt/corruptible either.

[Dr.Gonzo]

If you need me to prove that. You have not been paying attention. Get out of the basement.

No one agrees with your economic philosophy, yet you claim it is inherently obvious without putting forward you case.

[khicks26]

You can't prove it, nor can you cite any practical examples.

I don't believe you can prove government is not inherently corrupt/corruptible either.

We could go into a long discussion but you will not listen. So since a government is corruptible have none? That's your solution? A solution that puts you in the same place you came from. People are corrupt, government needs to be held accountable not done away with.

[khicks26]

No one agrees with your economic philosophy, yet you claim it is inherently obvious without putting forward you case.

Is this you being a cuck. LOL

[Mac4Lyfe]

Reading the constitution and the bills of rights will shut them down. There's not a single discriminating element in
any of those documents.

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[khicks26]

For you Dr Bozo. This is were we are at. Now were do we go from here?

Inverted totalitarianism is a term coined by political philosopher Sheldon Wolin in 2003 to describe the emerging form of government of the United States. Wolin believed that the United States is increasingly turning into an illiberal democracy, and uses the term "inverted totalitarianism" to illustrate similarities and differences between the United States governmental system and totalitarian regimes such as Nazi Germany and the Stalinist Soviet Union.^[1][2][3][4] In Days of Destruction, Days of Revolt by Chris Hedges and Joe Sacco, inverted totalitarianism is described as a system where corporations have corrupted and subverted democracy and where economics trumps politics.^[5] In inverted totalitarianism, every natural resource and every living being is commodified and exploited to collapse as the citizenry is lulled and manipulated into surrendering their liberties and their participation in government through excess consumerism and sensationalism.^[6][7]

[Dr.Gonzo]

We could go into a long discussion but you will not listen. So since a government is corruptible have none? That's your solution? A solution that puts you in the same place you came from. People are corrupt, government needs to be held accountable not done away with.

You might change the opinion of an onlooker.

If a government is corrupt why would the solution be to increase it's scope? I would think at a bare minimum you'd want it restricted as much as possible.

How do you plan to keep government accountable?

[ADR51]

I vote for john Madden....fvk yeah!

[Dr.Gonzo]

For you Dr Bozo. This is were we are at. Now were do we go from here?

Inverted totalitarianism is a term coined by political philosopher Sheldon Wolin in 2003 to describe the emerging form of government of the United States. Wolin believed that the United States is increasingly turning into an illiberal democracy, and uses the term "inverted totalitarianism" to illustrate similarities and differences between the United States governmental system and totalitarian regimes such as Nazi Germany and the Stalinist Soviet Union.^[1][2][3][4] In Days of Destruction, Days of Revolt by Chris Hedges and Joe Sacco, inverted totalitarianism is described as a system where corporations have corrupted and subverted democracy and where economics trumps politics.^[5] In inverted totalitarianism, every natural resource and every living being is commodified and exploited to collapse as the citizenry is lulled and manipulated into surrendering their liberties and their participation in government through excess consumerism and sensationalism.^[6][7]

Political correctness is totalitarian yet not driven by economics.

"In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of
communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform,
but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality
the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are
being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced
to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense
of probity. To assent to obvious lies is in some small way to become
evil oneself. One's standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and
even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I
think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect
and is intended to."


Theodore Dalrymple

[khicks26]

You might change the opinion of an onlooker.

If a government is corrupt why would the solution be to increase it's scope? I would think at a bare minimum you'd want it restricted as much as possible.

How do you plan to keep government accountable?

Restricted as much as possible is what the corporations want & have been doing since Reagan. We are living your libertarian dream as we speak. Don't you like it?

Me keep the government accountable? Going to need a lot more people to get involved. Change comes from the people, its always been the only way.

[khicks26]

Political correctness is totalitarian yet not driven by economics.

"In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of
communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform,
but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality
the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are
being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced
to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense
of probity. To assent to obvious lies is in some small way to become
evil oneself. One's standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and
even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I
think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect
and is intended to."


Theodore Dalrymple

What does Wolin's statement have to do with being PC.

[Dr.Gonzo]

Restricted as much as possible is what the corporations want & have been doing since Reagan. We are living your libertarian dream as we speak. Don't you like it?

Me keep the government accountable? Going to need a lot more people to get involved. Change comes from the people, its always been the only way.

No, we're not living in a libertarian dream, government has been expanding since the nation was founded. Roberts actually made a decent point, why were the banks bailed out? They wouldn't have been under libertarianism.

The DNC is running Hillary Clinton as the candidate, and people are on here shilling for her non stop, and you trust the people? Failed idealism, better to be more pragmatic.

[khicks26]

Political correctness is totalitarian yet not driven by economics.

"In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of
communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform,
but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality
the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are
being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced
to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense
of probity. To assent to obvious lies is in some small way to become
evil oneself. One's standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and
even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I
think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect
and is intended to."


Theodore Dalrymple

If I was a rich guy I would look for something else to blame it on also. You know like immigration. This way people focus on that & not the real problem.

[Dr.Gonzo]

What does Wolin's statement have to do with being PC.

Wolin's asserting that totalitarian conditions are being fostered through capitalism, yet PC is a clear example of totalitarianism being pushed on American society by anti-capitalists.

[Dr.Gonzo]

If I was a rich guy I would look for something else to blame it on also. You know like immigration. This way people focus on that & not the real problem.

I thought open borders was a koch brothers initiative for corporations to have access to cheap labor?

The left never cared about the working class, this is evidence.

[khicks26]

No, we're not living in a libertarian dream, government has been expanding since the nation was founded. Roberts actually made a decent point, why were the banks bailed out? They wouldn't have been under libertarianism.

The DNC is running Hillary Clinton as the candidate, and people are on here shilling for her non stop, and you trust the people? Failed idealism, better to be more pragmatic.

He also says who wanted the banks bailed out. The banks did, who are the same people that fund the campaign to put their guy in office. So you blame the person who is corrupt, but not the people doing the corrupting. Genius why didn't I think of that. We will all be much better with our corporate over lords & the the market of no regulations taking care of us. I'm sure the people who corrupt the government are very nice people. You Idiot.

[khicks26]

Wolin's asserting that totalitarian conditions are being fostered through capitalism, yet PC is a clear example of totalitarianism being pushed on American society by anti-capitalists.

Unfettered capitalism is not capitalism at all. Its feudalism. That's what he's saying. There nothing PC about it, quit making excuses.

[khicks26]

I thought open borders was a koch brothers initiative for corporations to have access to cheap labor?

The left never cared about the working class, this is evidence.

There is no left. Just center right & far right. Which is were I would put you.

[Dr.Gonzo]

He also says who wanted the banks bailed out. The banks did, who are the same people that fund the campaign to put their guy in office. So you blame the person who is corrupt, but not the people doing the corrupting. Genius why didn't I think of that. We will all be much better with our corporate over lords & the the market of no regulations taking care of us. I'm sure the people who corrupt the government are very nice people. You Idiot.

I'm pragmatic, I ask myself how can we create a situation where both the corrupt and corrupter will not have the opportunity to do so.

There'll be nothing stopping nice people like you from looking after the less unfortunate. If you believe in the decency of people, you should trust them.

[Dr.Gonzo]

Unfettered capitalism is not capitalism at all. Its feudalism. That's what he's saying. There nothing PC about it, quit making excuses.

Unfettered capitalism would require no government.

[khicks26]

Unfettered capitalism would require no government.

Isn't that your dream? Do you know what the TPP is & what its all about? Government by corporations & the market of no regulations. See this is what Roberts is saying. This is were your no government libertarian dream ends. We adopted Neo-liberial ideas starting with Reagan, have been rolling back the New Deal ever since. Taking power from the people & giving it to the people that can buy the government & change the laws to suit them.

Friedman & Hayek were wrong. IMO they knew this was going to happen.

[rkelly110]

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The asshole can also go online and print it out for free. Fold it up and put in in his suit that's made in China.

That's if he can read though. The way he talks, there's no way he made it through the 8th grade or college for that matter.

I wanna see HIS diploma/s!