Democratic Convention Live Thread

[MoneyLineDawg]

To be honest, I don't know enough about it to say whether I agree or disagree. I don't think Hilary is innocent or clean by any means, so I'd be inclined to give you the benefit of the doubt.

And as for you, or anyone being Anti-Hilary, I get it. I got no problems with it. I'm anti-trump, we're just see things differently, but I have little doubt we'd get along great in a bar.

Fair enough man....These SBR political battles can get a little nasty here but in real life politics is like last on my mind when I'm dealing with other people....I get along with everyone

I'm way more anti-Hillary than Pro-Trump myself....might vote third party as I am more Libertarian than anything. Not sure yet

[Russian Rocket]

This guy is one of the true American patriots out there, who's got real American values and principals running through his veins.
Saw him on TV a few times...the dude is awesome

[khicks26]

[khicks26]

[khicks26]

[Russian Rocket]

[JIBBBY]

How do you know this?

Donald Trump's idea of exercise is shouting and screaming at 25,000 people. http://www.people.com/article/donald...k-out-campaign

It's all over the internet.. Were discussing her health on Fox with Hannity and Orielly...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-08/something-wrong-hillary-bizarre-behavior-seizure-allegations-raise-doubts-about-her-

[JIBBBY]

You don't know any of this for fact and are simply spreading rumors, but have fun wasting your time

American Healthcare is amazing, Hilary will be just fine, you have no clue.

Anyways, better to have a less than perfect Hilary Clinton in office than a child molesting Donald Trump being impeached for raping a 13 year old

But hey, if you want to support a child molester, I guess that makes you.....

Google search.. You'll be hearing about this more and more.. I don't make up stuff and post rumors Kragen Sir...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08/expert-analysis-finds-hillary-clintons-recent-seizures-sign-brain-damage/

[brainfreeze]

Goldman sachs paid this witch 675,000 for a speech, ....

Made about 3 m's in 12 speeches ...to banks, unbelievable ...

https://theintercept.com/2016/01/08/hillary-clinton-earned-more-from-12-speeches-to-big-banks-than-most-americans-earn-in-their-lifetime/

She made over 12 million after leaving office, just in speeches... Probably more, and no one can tell me anything she's done in office to begin with... Corruption at its finest.. http://www.businessinsider.com/here-...te-dept-2015-5

[brainfreeze]

[Dr.Gonzo]

Everywhere is freaks and hairies
Dykes and fairies, tell me where is sanity
Tax the rich, feed the poor
Till there are no rich no more?

I'd love to change the world
But I don't know what to do
So I'll leave it up to you

Population keeps on breeding
Nation bleeding, still more feeding economy
Life is funny, skies are sunny
Bees make honey, who needs money, Monopoly

I'd love to change the world
But I don't know what to do
So I'll leave it up to you

World pollution, there's no solution
Institution, electrocution
Just black and white, rich or poor
Them and us, stop the war

I'd love to change the world
But I don't know what to do
So I'll leave it up to you

If you want wages to rise you don't need to tax the rich, just close the border.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-08-04/hungary-s-labor-woes-may-trigger-wage-explosion-minister-says

“I think in the next one-and-a-half years there will be a radical increase”

[brooks85]

3 of 4 American Soliders in Iraq have died under Obama ..( which will get worse with hillary )

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/10/15/3-4-u-s-military-deaths-afghanistan-occurred-obama/

I'm beyond sick of it all... and people who support them, just into their own selfish benefits and not the overall betterment of the country. Willing to side with the machine (establishment) for a few quick bucks now (that will collapse) rather then being upstanding humans with honor willing to sacrifice as men have died for this country and freedoms..to make a better country, what they didn't count on is the goodness in this country that will make it great again.

the is certainly the big facade of this election, which is that trump is the one who is going to start war(s). That is penetrating stupid considering reality and the witch he is running against.

[brooks85]

You don't know any of this for fact and are simply spreading rumors, but have fun wasting your time

American Healthcare is amazing, Hilary will be just fine, you have no clue.

Anyways, better to have a less than perfect Hilary Clinton in office than a child molesting Donald Trump being impeached for raping a 13 year old

But hey, if you want to support a child molester, I guess that makes you.....

look at the desperate sheep, his psyche has to reach for something to justify his asinine logic that he can't even defend.

That's sad, our service men and women deserve better

Congress sits in a nice air-conditioned room in the Capitol Building, in their plush leather chairs, pocketing money from kick backs and back room deals, all while they're sending you men and women to war with crappy equipment

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do your part to fight a bigger threat to the world than radical Islam!!! lol moron

https://www.change.org/p/remove-air-conditioning-from-all-us-state-department-property

[Mr KLC]

Orlando shooter's father attends Hillary Clinton rally in Kissimmee

KISSIMMEE, Fla. - Hillary Clinton spoke to a crowd in Kissimmee, just south of Orlando. She was supposed to be talking jobs, but started the speech off paying tribute to those affected by the Pulse Nightclub shooting.

"I know how many people, families, loved ones, and friends are still grieving, and we will be with you as you rebuild your lives."

WPTV happened to notice the man, who has a mustache and was wearing a red hat, behind Clinton. It was Seddique Mateen , the father of Orlando mass shooter Omar Mateen.

http://www.wptv.com/news/state/orlando-shooters-father-attends-hillary-clinton-rally-in-kissimmee

[ByeShea]

Sh*t attracts flies.

[rkelly110]

Orlando shooter's father attends Hillary Clinton rally in Kissimmee

KISSIMMEE, Fla. - Hillary Clinton spoke to a crowd in Kissimmee, just south of Orlando. She was supposed to be talking jobs, but started the speech off paying tribute to those affected by the Pulse Nightclub shooting.

"I know how many people, families, loved ones, and friends are still grieving, and we will be with you as you rebuild your lives."

WPTV happened to notice the man, who has a mustache and was wearing a red hat, behind Clinton. It was Seddique Mateen , the father of Orlando mass shooter Omar Mateen.

http://www.wptv.com/news/state/orlan...y-in-kissimmee

So, the whole family is guilty?

Grasping?

I think I'd be more concerned with my party leaving their candidate in droves.

[The Kraken]

Oh shit, paging King Burrito and StealthyMayan

[Dr.Gonzo]

Sh*t attracts flies.

Orlando Jihadi’s Father Is a Taliban Supporter with His Own Youtube Show

Seddique Mateen/Facebook

by Jen Lawrence13 Jun 20161,842
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Seddique Mir Mateen, the father of Orlando mass murderer Omar Mateen, is a supporter of the Afghan Taliban with his own Youtube program, where he made radical anti-LGBT statements and proclaimed to run a campaign for president of Afghanistan from his Florida home.

Below, the bizarre and often disjointed collection of facts publicly known about the elder Mateen, who has come out to condemn his son’s actions to mainstream media while continuing to post cryptic messages online.

• Seddique Mir Mateen is an ideological supporter of the Afghan Taliban. He has posted a number of videos on his Youtube and Facebook pages praising the Taliban in Afghanistan. These videos appear in a Youtube page titled “Durand Jirga,” the name of his private corporation.
• “Durand Jirga INC” is classified as a non-profit company out of Port St Lucie, Florida. It appears to have board members scattered nationwide, though there is no official website or indication of what the corporation does, other than post Mateen’s bizarre videos on Youtube.
• Seddique Mateen currently hosts a program on a California-based satellite Afghan TV station. The show focus’ on the Afghan diaspora in the in the U.S. The name of the show is “Durand Jirga Show”, which is the same name as his company.
• Two months ago, a business under his name called “The Provisional Government of Afghanistan” received a business license from the state of Florida.
• Saddique has published a video in which he appears to claim that he is currently running for President of Afghanistan from Florida. In a video posted shortly before his son went on his terror rampage, the elder Mateen posted a video to his Facebook page where he appears in a military uniform and begins to give orders as if he was the President of Afganistan. “I order national army, national police and intelligence department to immediately imprison Karzai, Ashraf Ghani, Zalmay Khalilzad, Atmar, and Sayyaf,” he said, mentioning the current and former presidents of Afghanistan and other high-ranking officials. “They are against our countrymen, and against our homeland.”
• On Monday morning, a video of Mateen appeared on social media where he declared, “God will punish those involved in homosexuality.” He added as a caveat that homosexuality was “not an issue that humans should deal with,” but one that supernatural powers should punish.
• Following the attack, in interviews with various news agencies, the elder Mateen insisted his son’s actions had nothing to do with religion. He maintained that he had no idea why his son would do this, other than mentioning an anecdote in which he recalled his son becoming angry after seeing a gay couple kissing in public. He highlighted that they both attend Mosque on Friday and everything seemed normal.

[Dr.Gonzo]

So, the whole family is guilty?

Apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

[brainfreeze]

Orlando Jihadi’s Father Is a Taliban Supporter with His Own Youtube Show


Seddique Mateen/Facebook

by Jen Lawrence13 Jun 20161,842
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Seddique Mir Mateen, the father of Orlando mass murderer Omar Mateen, is a supporter of the Afghan Taliban with his own Youtube program, where he made radical anti-LGBT statements and proclaimed to run a campaign for president of Afghanistan from his Florida home.

Below, the bizarre and often disjointed collection of facts publicly known about the elder Mateen, who has come out to condemn his son’s actions to mainstream media while continuing to post cryptic messages online.

• Seddique Mir Mateen is an ideological supporter of the Afghan Taliban. He has posted a number of videos on his Youtube and Facebook pages praising the Taliban in Afghanistan. These videos appear in a Youtube page titled “Durand Jirga,” the name of his private corporation.
• “Durand Jirga INC” is classified as a non-profit company out of Port St Lucie, Florida. It appears to have board members scattered nationwide, though there is no official website or indication of what the corporation does, other than post Mateen’s bizarre videos on Youtube.
• Seddique Mateen currently hosts a program on a California-based satellite Afghan TV station. The show focus’ on the Afghan diaspora in the in the U.S. The name of the show is “Durand Jirga Show”, which is the same name as his company.
• Two months ago, a business under his name called “The Provisional Government of Afghanistan” received a business license from the state of Florida.
• Saddique has published a video in which he appears to claim that he is currently running for President of Afghanistan from Florida. In a video posted shortly before his son went on his terror rampage, the elder Mateen posted a video to his Facebook page where he appears in a military uniform and begins to give orders as if he was the President of Afganistan. “I order national army, national police and intelligence department to immediately imprison Karzai, Ashraf Ghani, Zalmay Khalilzad, Atmar, and Sayyaf,” he said, mentioning the current and former presidents of Afghanistan and other high-ranking officials. “They are against our countrymen, and against our homeland.”
• On Monday morning, a video of Mateen appeared on social media where he declared, “God will punish those involved in homosexuality.” He added as a caveat that homosexuality was “not an issue that humans should deal with,” but one that supernatural powers should punish.
• Following the attack, in interviews with various news agencies, the elder Mateen insisted his son’s actions had nothing to do with religion. He maintained that he had no idea why his son would do this, other than mentioning an anecdote in which he recalled his son becoming angry after seeing a gay couple kissing in public. He highlighted that they both attend Mosque on Friday and everything seemed normal.

[Dr.Gonzo]

Document Reveals Omar Mateen’s Father Tied to Radical Islamist Groups

The Associated Press

by The Investigative Project on Terrorism (IPT)20 Jun 2016659
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The father of Orlando mass shooter Omar Mateen has longstanding connections to prominent Islamist groups in the U.S., a document discovered by the Investigative Project on Terrorism shows. Seddique Matin is listed as president of a then-newAmerican Muslim Alliance (AMA)chapter in Fort Pierce in a July 1997 announcement archived by the IPT.

The AMA sponsored several radical conferences in the U.S. and its leader, Agha Saeed, has spoken in defense of convicted terrorists, including Aafia Siddiqui (a.k.a “Lady al-Qaida”), Palestinian Islamic Jihad board member Sami Al-Arian, and Pakistani intelligence lobbyist Ghulam Nabi Fai.
The Fort Pierce chapter is among 10 new AMA chapters opened, the announcement in an AMA bulletin says.

AMA was incorporated as a nonprofit organization in California in 1994 “to educate the Muslim community and others on the history and laws of the United States and on affirmative participation in civic activities on a non-partisan basis.” AMA’s political activist wing, the American Muslim Political Coordinating Council (AMPCC), includes leading Islamist organizations in the U.S. including the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), the Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC), and the American Muslim Council (AMC).
AMA no longer exists as a registered nonprofit and it last filed tax returns in 2010. But the organization continues to maintain an activeFacebook account. In its posts, the AMA refuses to consider any Islamist motivation for the attack andlays the blame for Omar Mateen’s massacre which killed 49 people at the Pulse nightclub solely on the country’s lax gun laws.
The organization has a history of working with radical Islamist groups and has issued statements in support of several terrorists later convicted in the U.S. The FBI cut off outreach communication with CAIR, for example, after uncovering evidence placing the organization and its leaders in a U.S.-based Hamas-support network.
In October 2000, AMA co-sponsored a rally in Washington’s Lafayette Park where AMC’s then-executive director Abdurahman Alamoudi announced his support forHamas and Hizballah.
In 2004, Alamoudi was sentenced to 23 years in prison for illegal financial dealings with Libya. He also confessed to taking part in a Libyan plot to assassinate then-crown prince of Saudi Arabia.
In 2003, Saeed testified on Al-Arian’s behalf, describing the man who ran “the active arm” of Palestinian Islamic Jihad as “my friend and during the last ten years we have worked together to mainstream American politics. We have worked together to replace the culture of despair with culture of hope and the culture of bullet with the culture of ballot.” AMA’s website also featured a section entitled “Valiant Civil Rights Struggle of Dr. Sami Al Arian.”
Saeed also penned an op-ed along with CAIR’s then-national board chairman Parvez Ahmed that called for Al-Arian’s release from prison during a subsequent contempt case. The op-ed criticized U.S. counterterrorism efforts claiming “the saga of Dr. Sami Al-Arian is a repeat of past incidents in American history in which our government targeted individuals using unconstitutional and un-American tactics.”
Saeed advocated “armed resistance” at a 1999 Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) in Chicago: “United Nations has a resolution…which says… people in Palestine have the right to resist their oppression by using all means including armed resistance….” Saeed was featured as a guest speaker at Islamic Association for Palestine (IAP) conventions. Evidence unearthed in a Hamas-financing trial in Dallas, showed IAP served as a propaganda machine for the terrorist group in the U.S.
At AMA’s 7^th Annual National Convention in October 2002, Agha Saeed indirectly blamed the U.S. for the 9/11 attacks. Osama bin Laden was contemptible, he said. “But I would like to say very respectfully, who brought Osama bin Laden from Saudi Arabia to Afghanistan? Who gave him million[s] of dollars? Who trained him in [the] science of war, death and destruction, deception and deceit? Who gave protection to his cause and diplomatic coverage to his enterprise? Was it not President Reagan, when he had to see mujahideen at the White House, he said, ‘When I meet you I feel as if I am in the company of the founding fathers of this country?'”
Years after working with AMA and its Islamist allies, the senior Mateen, who hosts the Durand Jirga Show from California on the YouTube channel Payam-e-Afghan, has been reported to be an ideological supporter of the Taliban. He can be seen in one video declaring his candidacy for the Afghan presidency. In another video, Mateen can be seen praising the Afghan Taliban and referring to the terrorist group as “our warrior brothers,” the Washington Post reports.
While little information is known about Seddique Mateen’s work with the AMA, the 1997 newsletter shows the Orlando shooter’s father has worked for years with some of the most visible and radical Islamists in the United States.
This article originally appeared at the Investigative Project on Terrorism.

[Dr.Gonzo]

Orlando Terrorist’s Father After Shooting: God Will Punish Gays

MANDEL NGAN/AFP/Getty Images

by Caroline May13 Jun 20161,264
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The father of the radical Islamic terrorist who murdered 50 people at an Orlando gay bar has posted a video on Facebook claiming ignorance for his son’s motives, arguing that God will punish gays, according to CBS News.

In a video posted early Monday, CBS reports, Seddique Mir Mateen — the father of Orlando terrorist Omar Mateen — expresses sadness for the shooting during Ramadan and says that he was “not aware what motivated [his son] to go into a gay club and kill 50 people.”
Seddique Mateen further notes that “God will punish those involved in homosexuality,” adding it is “not an issue that humans should deal with.”
According to CBS’ report, Seddique Mateen also hosts a program on a satellite Afghan TV show called the “Durand Jirga Show,” largely view by Pashtun Afghans in the U.S. and Europe.
A senior Afghan intelligence source told CBS that Mateen’s show has an anti-American and pro-Taliban slant.

The Taliban Islamic extremist movement is comprised almost entirely of Pashtuns, and Mateen’s show takes a decidedly Pashtun nationalistic, pro-Taliban slant; full of anti-U.S. rhetoric and inflammatory language aimed at non-Pashtuns and at Pakistan, the source told Logan.

The elder Seddique’s Monday video is one of many in which he does not speak English and dons military garb.

In his Facebook videos, the alleged gunman’s father has often appeared wearing a military uniform and declaring himself the leader of a “transitional revolutionary government” of Afghanistan. He claims to have his own intelligence agency and close ties to the U.S. Congress — assets he says he will use to subvert Pakistani influence and take control of Afghanistan.
After watching his videos — none of which were recorded in English — CBS News’ Ahmad Mukhtar said it seemed possible that Seddique Mateen is delusional. “He thinks he runs a government in exile and will soon take the power in Kabul in a revolution,” notes Mukhtar.

[brainfreeze]

I don't think gay folks like her either , when they've been completely sold out to islamic interest and she flip flops on her stances ... Then add the aid, tax incentives, and free reign in the country to a people that will throw them off a building at the slightest chance. I don't like homo, but I don't want to throw them off buildings, I want them to get help...

[brainfreeze]

the is certainly the big facade of this election, which is that trump is the one who is going to start war(s). That is penetrating stupid considering reality and the witch he is running against.

Yes, I hear a lot of that... Nuke this, the witch team came up with the bright idea " you don't want him with the nuke codes "... No, we want you with them, witch

[brainfreeze]

Welcome to the twilight zone...

[ByeShea]

So, the whole family is guilty?

I know it means very little to you, but a religious zealot armed up and shot 49 people dead, wounded many more, and shattered countless people's lives.

That zealot was raised by the zealot who is a big fan of Hillary's pro-zealot immigration policy.

Many people, irrespective of party loyalty, are concerned by developments like this in American society.

[khicks26]

If you want wages to rise you don't need to tax the rich, just close the border.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-08-04/hungary-s-labor-woes-may-trigger-wage-explosion-minister-says

“I think in the next one-and-a-half years there will be a radical increase”

Like Trump is going to do what he says. Not happening, your buying into the political theater. He's just like another guy that did the same thing 8 years ago.

Cut off the border & cut off all the workers who do the low paying jobs nobody wants. Then you have to rise wages, which the corporations don't want.

Have tariffs up to 45%? All the shit is made overseas, the corporations have spent the last 30 years & billions of dollars moving everything overseas. With a 45% tariff those investments would collapse, causing a hit on the American stock market & the rest of the world. Now you have a total collapse.

Trump is talking out his ass, none of this shit is going to happen.

[Dr.Gonzo]

Like Trump is going to do what he says. Not happening, your buying into the political theater. He's just like another guy that did the same thing 8 years ago.

Cut off the border & cut off all the workers who do the low paying jobs nobody wants. Then you have to rise wages, which the corporations don't want.

Have tariffs up to 45%? All the shit is made overseas, the corporations have spent the last 30 years & billions of dollars moving everything overseas. With a 45% tariff those investments would collapse, causing a hit on the American stock market & the rest of the world. Now you have a total collapse.

Trump is talking out his ass, none of this shit is going to happen.

You're a partisan hack who can't make a single concession.

I'm not surprised, 7.5k posts on a gambling forum and you don't even know how American odds work.

[chico2663]

I don't think gay folks like her either , when they've been completely sold out to islamic interest and she flip flops on her stances ... Then add the aid, tax incentives, and free reign in the country to a people that will throw them off a building at the slightest chance. I don't like homo, but I don't want to throw them off buildings, I want them to get help...

The repubs have more people in the closet that vote against gays. It is only a matter of time before cotten is outted.
This was on the arkansas times and sure if it was untrue than it would of been deleted.
Hey Tom Cotton is liar...he is gay yet he votes anti-gay. He supposedly married a woman (a former republican operative) to cover up getting caught by the wife of his lover in danville...carried on a long term affair with his chief of staff...so he is living in the Koch bubble thinking he can run as a Republican and become president of the United states...bow there are divorce papers in danville

[chico2663]

You're a partisan hack who can't make a single concession.

I'm not surprised, 7.5k posts on a gambling forum and you don't even know how American odds work.

AS OPPOSED TO THE BRIT THAT KNOWS AMERICAN POLITICS? gtfooh

[brooks85]

^

everyone else > people who can't do basic math, read FAKE news and believe it's true while everyone with two or more brain cells knows it is fake. It is no wonder the stuff is trending on your FB page, the page correlates post from people you know. So you know a bunch of sheep.

Yes, I hear a lot of that... Nuke this, the witch team came up with the bright idea " you don't want him with the nuke codes "... No, we want you with them, witch

with the friends hillary is in bed with war would be inevitable for some financial gain for some other country. I imagine saudi arabia might plot another 9/11 if hillary was in office.

[khicks26]

You're a partisan hack who can't make a single concession.

I'm not surprised, 7.5k posts on a gambling forum and you don't even know how American odds work.

LOL I will take this as you have no comeback. Don't get mad at me because your boy is full of shit. Get mad at Trump for lying to you.

[ByeShea]

The repubs have more people in the closet that vote against gays. It is only a matter of time before cotten is outted.
This was on the arkansas times and sure if it was untrue than it would of been deleted.
Hey Tom Cotton is liar...he is gay yet he votes anti-gay. He supposedly married a woman (a former republican operative) to cover up getting caught by the wife of his lover in danville...carried on a long term affair with his chief of staff...

That's great.

Now what, in particular, would that have to do with Islamic terrorism? Or do you not want to talk about Islamic terrorism?

[khicks26]

I don't think gay folks like her either , when they've been completely sold out to islamic interest and she flip flops on her stances ... Then add the aid, tax incentives, and free reign in the country to a people that will throw them off a building at the slightest chance. I don't like homo, but I don't want to throw them off buildings, I want them to get help...

Chop Suey

[brooks85]

lol youtubeU, clockwork