C/r turn is no Option for me because you just getcalled By big draws Or hands that Beat u. Bet/call turn and c/f River
u c/r Turn for value?
u c/r Turn for value?
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I'm talking the in game analysis such as " check to induce a bluff bet so i can raise or set him up to call my value bet on the river"
Of course we should be going over our hands after a session but this "advanced thinking" will usually do more harm than good in these low stakes games. How many 25NL players can be induced to bluff? That requires at a minimum second level thinking and most 25NL players don't have a Fkn clueComment -
2 pieces of advice if I wasn't clear hippy
1. Play more hands with showdown value because the vast majority of your opponents will be playing their cards rather than thinking about what you have in your hand, so don't get fancy play syndrome trying to outplay a table that isn't really paying attention in the first place. Don't expect most villains to even understand the odds of a situation and give them credit i.e "he called x so must have y". 7/10 are fkn fish and just want to gamble so kill them with value bets and know once in a while they get there. They'd stop playing if they never got there so let it go.
2. Your other job is to identify the 3/10 who may have more than 25 brain cells and set them up with the fancy bluffs
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bro im not commenting until you get rakeback
that is best hand you can haveComment -
lol rakeback, the last resort of "online pros"Comment -
i emailed bcp about rakeback and they havent respondedComment -
7/5
+4.33 on bcp
+92.47 on nitro
OVR 162.37/2,500Comment -
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Nice work hippy, keep it up
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I definitely second this. I play 10NL and will be moving up to 25NL soon. I'm in a coaching program so I understand a lot of stuff at the moment that most players have no idea about and I'm only in the beginner's stage. Just identify the player type and see if their line makes sense. Most raises on turn and river are usually the nuts except when they're from players with vpip of 70+. These players are usually bluff raising at will. Without a HUD you are limited and will have to pay more attention at the tables, but just play TAG and take everyone to value town.Comment -
Standard
Winning Poker Network Game #675227233: No Limit Holdem ($0.05/$0.10) [2016/07/07 00:31:06 UTC]
Table: (PRR) Dobhar-chu - 8
Seats: 6
Seat 1: TheyCallMePockets ($10.72)
Seat 2: blackHIPPY ($4.85)
Seat 3: Led177 ($5.91)
Seat 4: luchoprat ($10.69)
Seat 5: papamerikana ($20.69)
Button is seat 3
luchoprat: posts small blind $0.05
papamerikana: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
blackHIPPY: dealt [Qc Qd]
TheyCallMePockets: folds
blackHIPPY: raises $0.30
Led177: raises $1
luchoprat: folds
papamerikana: folds
blackHIPPY: raises $2.45
Led177: raises all-in $4.91
blackHIPPY: raises all-in $2.10
Led177: pulls back uncalled bet $1.06
*** FLOP *** [9d 6d Td]
*** TURN *** [9d 6d Td] [Ks]
*** RIVER *** [9d 6d Td] [Ks] [9h]
*** SUMMARY ***
Pot: $9.36 | Rake: $0.33 | BBJ: $0.16 |
Board: [9d 6d Td Ks 9h]
Seat 1: TheyCallMePockets didn't bet
Seat 2: blackHIPPY lost -$4.85 [Qc Qd] Two Pair, Queens and Nines
Seat 3: Led177 won $9.36 (+$4.51) [Ah Ac] Two Pair, Aces and Nines
Seat 4: luchoprat lost -$0.05
Seat 5: papamerikana lost -$0.10
Winning Poker Network Game #674419270: No Limit Holdem ($0.05/$0.10) [2016/07/05 22:06:17 UTC]
Table: (PRR) Dobhar-chu - 14
Seats: 6
Seat 1: Ghadorod ($21.02)
Seat 2: blackHIPPY ($6.87)
Seat 3: WHAMBAMtyMAAM ($10)
Seat 4: lumpyoatmeal ($10.95)
Seat 5: Learnwish ($11.99)
Seat 6: taoistguy ($10.65)
Button is seat 5
taoistguy: posts small blind $0.05
Ghadorod: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
blackHIPPY: dealt [Ah Ad]
blackHIPPY: raises $0.30
WHAMBAMtyMAAM: folds
lumpyoatmeal: folds
Learnwish: calls $0.30
taoistguy: folds
Ghadorod: folds
*** FLOP *** [6h Qc 7h]
blackHIPPY: bets $0.35
Learnwish: raises $0.70
blackHIPPY: raises $1.45
Learnwish: raises $2.20
blackHIPPY: raises all-in $4.77
Learnwish: calls $3.67
*** TURN *** [6h Qc 7h] [Kc]
*** RIVER *** [6h Qc 7h] [Kc] [9s]
*** SUMMARY ***
Pot: $13.20 | Rake: $0.47 | BBJ: $0.22 |
Board: [6h Qc 7h Kc 9s]
Seat 1: Ghadorod lost -$0.10
Seat 2: blackHIPPY lost -$6.87 [Ah Ad] One Pair, Aces
Seat 3: WHAMBAMtyMAAM didn't bet
Seat 4: lumpyoatmeal didn't bet
Seat 5: Learnwish won $13.20 (+$6.33) [7s 7c] Three of a Kind, Sevens
Seat 6: taoistguy lost -$0.05Comment -
that can make it a little hard to winComment -
Calling is ok once in a while. Would've saved you some money on the first hand.
Can't say I like either 3betComment -
i dont think i wouldve been able to fold on the flop either tho... edit: nvm yea maybe w those str8 and flush draws on the first hand. but def wouldnt have been able to fold the 2nd hand i thought that guy had aq the whole time lol
like i dont have a problem getting away from hands but how can i not think im good in these spots?Comment -
7/6
+102.55 nitro
-19.04 bcp
OVR 245.88/2,500Comment -
my biggest winning and losing hands from todays bcp session:
Winning Poker Network Game #675246683: No Limit Holdem ($0.05/$0.10) [2016/07/07 00:56:07 UTC]
Table: (PRR) Dobhar-chu - 3
Seats: 6
Seat 1: JellyRoll2000 ($10)
Seat 3: papamerikana ($14.24)
Seat 4: blackHIPPY ($4.52)
Seat 5: White Magic ($18.45)
Button is seat 1
papamerikana: posts small blind $0.05
blackHIPPY: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
blackHIPPY: dealt [Jd Js]
White Magic: raises $0.30
JellyRoll2000: folds
papamerikana: folds
blackHIPPY: raises $0.75
White Magic: calls $0.55
*** FLOP *** [Th Kd Jh]
blackHIPPY: bets $0.85
White Magic: raises all-in $17.60
blackHIPPY: raises all-in $2.82
White Magic: pulls back uncalled bet $13.93
*** TURN *** [Th Kd Jh] [6d]
*** RIVER *** [Th Kd Jh] [6d] [Qh]
*** SUMMARY ***
Pot: $8.64 | Rake: $0.31 | BBJ: $0.14 |
Board: [Th Kd Jh 6d Qh]
Seat 1: JellyRoll2000 didn't bet
Seat 3: papamerikana lost -$0.05
Seat 4: blackHIPPY won $8.64 (+$4.12) [Jd Js] Three of a Kind, Jacks
Seat 5: White Magic lost -$4.52 [Tc Qc] Two Pair, Queens and Tens
2 terrible plays by me but im trash and black chip wears me down smh
Winning Poker Network Game #675161630: No Limit Holdem ($0.05/$0.10) [2016/07/06 23:05:12 UTC]
Table: (PRR) Dobhar-chu - 5
Seats: 6
Seat 2: nice2016 ($13.87)
Seat 4: slompus ($9.81)
Seat 5: blackHIPPY ($4.65)
Seat 6: asldkjflkjm ($5.05)
Button is seat 5
asldkjflkjm: posts small blind $0.05
nice2016: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
blackHIPPY: dealt [Ts Qs]
slompus: folds
blackHIPPY: raises $0.30
asldkjflkjm: folds
nice2016: calls $0.20
*** FLOP *** [Ac Ad Td]
nice2016: checks
blackHIPPY: bets $0.30
nice2016: raises $0.90
blackHIPPY: raises $2.20
nice2016: raises all-in $12.67
blackHIPPY: raises all-in $1.85
nice2016: pulls back uncalled bet $9.22
*** TURN *** [Ac Ad Td] [3s]
*** RIVER *** [Ac Ad Td] [3s] [Ah]
*** SUMMARY ***
Pot: $8.89 | Rake: $0.32 | BBJ: $0.14 |
Board: [Ac Ad Td 3s Ah]
Seat 2: nice2016 won $8.89 (+$4.24) [8s As] Four of a Kind, Aces
Seat 4: slompus didn't bet
Seat 5: blackHIPPY lost -$4.65 [Ts Qs] Full House, Aces full of Tens
Seat 6: asldkjflkjm lost -$0.05
Winning Poker Network Game #675334824: No Limit Holdem ($0.05/$0.10) [2016/07/07 02:46:08 UTC]
Table: (PRR) Dobhar-chu - 14
Seats: 6
Seat 1: blackHIPPY ($4.65)
Seat 3: Omniscient ($11.06)
Seat 4: CYBERCEO ($9.23)
Seat 5: papamerikana ($14.66)
Seat 6: TheHamburglar ($12.40)
Button is seat 5
TheHamburglar: posts small blind $0.05
blackHIPPY: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
blackHIPPY: dealt [Kh Qc]
Omniscient: folds
CYBERCEO: calls $0.10
papamerikana: folds
TheHamburglar: raises $0.45
blackHIPPY: calls $0.40
CYBERCEO: calls $0.40
*** FLOP *** [2d 5d Qd]
TheHamburglar: checks
blackHIPPY: bets $0.85
CYBERCEO: calls $0.85
TheHamburglar: raises $4.20
blackHIPPY: raises all-in $3.30
CYBERCEO: raises $6.70
TheHamburglar: raises all-in $7.70
CYBERCEO: raises all-in $1.18
TheHamburglar: pulls back uncalled bet $3.17
*** TURN *** [2d 5d Qd] [3d]
*** RIVER *** [2d 5d Qd] [3d] [3c]
*** SUMMARY ***
Pot: $21.96 | Rake: $0.91 | BBJ: $0.24 |
Board: [2d 5d Qd 3d 3c]Comment -
mfkrs on black chip rly just be grindin my ass down manComment -
down 115.28 this month on bcp but i think i can turn it around and end the month positive there
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1) You played this perfectly, unlucky.
2) I don't feel like counting how much money you put in vs how much you need to call and what not, but playing short stacked is not profitable. In this instance he raised you knowing you are a short stack and that you would shove a lot of the time. Because you are short stacked you're not really going to try to get out of this hand here.
You might be able to play short stack profitably at 25NL, but at 50NL and higher you'll probably get killed. Also it's so much more profitable to play deep stacked when there are fish at the table. Anyway, good luck man!Comment -
No matter how he played that second hand, it was likely going to end up the same way. Villain hit his set after a flop he was not going to fold.Comment -
Ovr 264.2/2,500Comment -
sup, i aint played very much past few days
hopefully i get it in this week
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