The Bolivians robbed

QuantumLeap · 06-10-16, 08:13 PM

Originally posted by slayer14

A clear no hand ball

Is the arm considered a hand ball? I think so. It was a clear hit by his arm.

Russian Rocket · 06-10-16, 08:14 PM

the 4 people on this forum who actually watched this game agree with you

QuantumLeap · 06-10-16, 08:16 PM

Originally posted by Russian Rocket

the 4 people on this forum who actually watched this game agree with you

Not me. It was an obvious deliberate hand ball.

"A hand ball is called when a player (excluding the goal keeper when he is in the box) intentionally touches the ball with his hand or any part of his arm from shoulder to the finger tips. This means that if a player touches the ball unintentionally, it is not a hand ball."

Otters27 · 06-10-16, 08:17 PM

wow unreal that I won my chile bet that way. Feel bad for Bolivia team

swordsandtequila · 06-10-16, 08:19 PM

Fuk them. Faking injuries, delaying the game. Settling for a point like that's going to help them. Karma.

thetrinity · 06-10-16, 08:23 PM

Should have had a handball earlier IMO

Russian Rocket · 06-10-16, 08:23 PM

Originally posted by QuantumLeap

Not me. It was an obvious deliberate hand ball.

"A hand ball is called when a player (excluding the goal keeper when he is in the box) intentionally touches the ball with his hand or any part of his arm from shoulder to the finger tips. This means that if a player touches the ball unintentionally, it is not a hand ball."

I missed the replay Leaper...so if what you're saying is true, than it was a legit penalty

QuantumLeap · 06-10-16, 08:42 PM

Originally posted by Russian Rocket

I missed the replay Leaper...so if what you're saying is true, than it was a legit penalty

Blagodarya Sasha.</pre>There's always room for interpretation. I have been known to see things differently and change my mind.

SharpAngles · 06-10-16, 08:46 PM

Letter of the law he touched the ball. Spirit of the rule that shit was not a handball let's be real here.

P.S. Lol 8 minute stoppage then a winning PK in the 99th minute, no that doesn't seem shady one bit

P.p.s. Thank god because I've got chile ML in a couple parlays

jjgold · 06-10-16, 08:47 PM

There should be instant replay and soccer although my slow the game down

QuantumLeap · 06-10-16, 08:51 PM

Originally posted by SharpAngles

Letter of the law he touched the ball. Spirit of the rule that shit was not a handball let's be real here.

P.S. Lol 8 minute stoppage then a winning PK in the 99th minute, no that doesn't seem shady one bit

P.p.s. Thank god because I've got chile ML in a couple parlays

Did you not think he deliberately moved his arm out? It seemed that way to me.

As far as the 8 minutes goes, Bolivian players were laying down during that 8 minutes so it was extended. There should be yellow cards for deliberately slowing down action by falling down, in my opinion.

Russian Rocket · 06-10-16, 08:55 PM

Originally posted by QuantumLeap

Blagodarya Sasha.There's always room for interpretation. I have been known to see things differently and change my mind.

I see what you did there Leaper

They also can call these penalties on an unintentional hand ball, that stopped a shot on goal or a dangerous pass towards the goal. It's really up to the referee how he wants to interpret each play. They never go 100% by the rule book on these things.

QuantumLeap · 06-10-16, 09:00 PM

Originally posted by Russian Rocket

I see what you did there Leaper

They also can call these penalties on an unintentional hand ball, that stopped a shot on goal or a dangerous pass towards the goal. It's really up to the referee how he wants to interpret each play. They never go 100% by the rule book on these things.

I used to work with an Orthodox Jewish lady from Ukraine. I would ask her Russian phrases like dubroye utro and bud sterova and da svedanya and then use them in daily life. It was fun.

SharpAngles · 06-10-16, 09:07 PM

Originally posted by QuantumLeap

Did you not think he deliberately moved his arm out? It seemed that way to me.

As far as the 8 minutes goes, Bolivian players were laying down during that 8 minutes so it was extended. There should be yellow cards for deliberately slowing down action by falling down, in my opinion.

I saw both hands behind the back and him trying to avoid the bailout kick at his shoulder but you're right it's up to interpretation.

I agree 100% the refs should put a stop to the obvious time wasting, but again it's all interpretation so nothing will change.

daneblazer · 06-10-16, 09:08 PM

Serves them right for having two Capitol cities

Russian Rocket · 06-10-16, 09:08 PM

Originally posted by QuantumLeap

I used to work with an Orthodox Jewish lady from Ukraine. I would ask her Russian phrases like dubroye utro and bud sterova and da svedanya and then use them in daily life. It was fun.

Well done!...or how we say here Ochen Horosho

smitch124 · 06-10-16, 09:09 PM

They only win when they play in La Paz and no one can breathe.

kidcudi92 · 06-10-16, 09:10 PM

had chile in some dumbfukk parlay

QuantumLeap · 06-10-16, 09:20 PM

Originally posted by kidcudi92

had chile in some dumbfukk parlay

Me too. I think a lot of people did. Guess we got lucky there.

adila1401 · 06-10-16, 09:27 PM

By the rule it was a hand ball. They got away with one in the first half regardless. Agree though, they played a hell of a game thwarting attack after attack..heartbreaking.. Won my ML I took on Chile in the 80th minute though, no complaints here

QuantumLeap · 06-10-16, 11:43 PM

Here's the video. Skip to the 1:20 mark to see the hand ball called.

The way I see it the Bolivian defender had his hand behind his back. When the Chilean player hit the ball the Bolivian defender jumped up to block the kick and as a result, his arm hit the ball.

Russian Rocket · 06-10-16, 11:58 PM

Originally posted by QuantumLeap

Here's the video. Skip to the 1:20 mark to see the hand ball called.

The way I see it the Bolivian defender had his hand behind his back. When the Chilean player hit the ball the Bolivian defender jumped up to block the kick and as a result, his arm hit the ball.

yeah you cannot extend an elbow like that...you can keep your hands and arms behind your back while you're jumping, but they gotta stay connected to your body.

ref made a correct call here

frugalgambler · 06-11-16, 12:05 AM

Thanks for the video. That call looks dodgy to me, I'd say no PK, but the ref was probably pretty p'ed off at Bolivians after watching them park the bus the whole game. The second goal was pretty sweet though, fluky but sweet.

QuantumLeap · 06-11-16, 12:12 AM

Originally posted by frugalgambler

Thanks for the video. That call looks dodgy to me, I'd say no PK, but the ref was probably pretty p'ed off at Bolivians after watching them park the bus the whole game. The second goal was pretty sweet though, fluky but sweet.

Thanks for pointing out the second goal, the one by the Bolivian. If anyone wants to see a sweet goal, go to the 0:50 mark.