Denzel Valentine wins AP player of the Year. Bill Self coach of the year

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  • CanuckG
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    • 12-23-10
    • 21978

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    Denzel Valentine wins AP player of the Year. Bill Self coach of the year
    Michigan State guard Denzel Valentine and Kansas head coach Bill Self were honored by the Associated Press on Thursday as college basketball's Player of the Year and Coach of the Year, respectively.


    Cannot argue with Self winning.

    Valentine winning is meh. Won by 3 votes.
  • t-wizzle
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    • 12-18-09
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    #2
    Wow. Fukk that. Hield deserved it.
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    • jjgold
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      • 07-20-05
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      #3
      Lol Self


      Terrible
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      • actiondan
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        • 10-16-10
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        #4
        BS. Hield was much better
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        • TheChamp1
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          • 08-20-15
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          #5
          Buddy robbed
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          • funnyb25
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            • 07-09-09
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            #6
            Not sure how you can miss 2+ weeks of the season and win this award. Great player though
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            • MoneyLineDawg
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              • 01-01-09
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              #7
              Buddy Hield deserved it....NCAA Tourn is part of the season IMO
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              • Louisvillekid1
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                • 10-17-07
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                #8
                Lol, that's just wrong, these writers are clueless...

                Self winning is whatever, however Bobby Huggins did more w/ less... He prob wasn't even on the ballot lol
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                • DOM_Toretto
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                  • 01-28-13
                  • 9035

                  #9
                  Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
                  Buddy Hield deserved it....NCAA Tourn is part of the season IMO
                  It's not.

                  They vote before the tourney.
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                  • unde0087
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                    • 03-27-08
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                    #10
                    Now we know why the polls are so fuked up during the season. These people need to put the crack pipes down
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                    • The Kraken
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                      • 12-25-11
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                      Lol, that's just wrong, these writers are clueless...

                      Self winning is whatever, however Bobby Huggins did more w/ less... He prob wasn't even on the ballot lol
                      you almost made a decent post

                      congrats on the improvement
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                      • BigDofBA
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                        • 09-30-09
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                        #12
                        Valentine loses in embarrassing fashion in round 1 to a 15 seed and Hield carries his team to the Final Four.

                        WTF
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                        • unde0087
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                          • 03-27-08
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by BigDofBA
                          Valentine loses in embarrassing fashion in round 1 to a 15 seed and Hield carries his team to the Final Four.

                          WTF
                          These are the same voters who had MSU ranked in the top 5, in January when they were 5th in the Big 10 so I guess it can't be too much of a shocker.
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                          • Itsamazing777
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                            • 11-14-12
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                            #14
                            19points 7 assists 7 rebounds for Valentine average.
                            25 points 5 rebounds 2 assists for heild average.

                            I think the argument is Valentine is more of a complete player than a just a scorer.

                            also the votes were cast before the tournament......
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                            • DOM_Toretto
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                              • 01-28-13
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Itsamazing777
                              19points 7 assists 7 rebounds for Valentine average.
                              25 points 5 rebounds 2 assists for heild average.

                              I think the argument is Valentine is more of a complete player than a just a scorer.

                              also the votes were cast before the tournament......
                              Yes. All of this is true. Valentine can also play and defend 3 or 4 positions...

                              I think Buddy will win the Wooden Award... IMO, Buddy & Denzel are 1A & 1B. Both outstanding players with excellent regular seasons... Obviously Buddy with the much better tournament success this season and could even win it all.
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                              • texhooper
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                                • 01-05-09
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                                #16
                                19 7 and 7 is unparalleled for a season in college basketball. never been done before.

                                buddy has been fun to watch but valentine is the correct choice.
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                                • DOM_Toretto
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                                  • 01-28-13
                                  • 9035

                                  #17
                                  If you wanna get technical;

                                  19.2 pts / 7.5 reb / 7.8 ast

                                  His FG% & 3P% are very close to Buddy's at 46% & 44%, respectively. So, they're both very efficient shooters is the point.
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                                  • rm18
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                                    • 09-20-05
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                                    #18
                                    Valentine was hands down the best player, the only thing that made it close was he missed games.
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                                    • jtoler
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                                      • 12-17-13
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                                      #19
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                                      • jtoler
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                                        • 12-17-13
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by rm18
                                        Valentine was hands down the best player, the only thing that made it close was he missed games.
                                        Statwise yes, feels like Hield carried his team more, I could be wrong though.
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                                        • t-wizzle
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                                          • 12-18-09
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by DOM_Toretto
                                          If you wanna get technical;

                                          19.2 pts / 7.5 reb / 7.8 ast

                                          His FG% & 3P% are very close to Buddy's at 46% & 44%, respectively. So, they're both very efficient shooters is the point.
                                          So then based on your argument here, you'd probably make the case LeBron James deserves MVP over Steph Curry this year.
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