So long Masha!

[t-wizzle]

I didn't call her dishonest until she opened an email and failed to click a link that would've told her that the dope she was taking for 10 years had now been found out by WADA. When she continued to take it whether out of arrogance or not, she then became a dishonest drug cheat.

If you honestly believe she was "sick", prescription or not and playing elite tennis and winning Grand Slams then you are seriously a goose. Be real now. I could go tomorrow and get a prescription for Epilepsy. Doesn't mean I have it. Hers was for a bloody deficiency that there's no proof of and supposedly signs of a disease that a gazillion people have. Even Maria never claimed she was sick ffs.

Right. Let's not be naive here.

[Russian Rocket]

I didn't call her dishonest until she opened an email and failed to click a link that would've told her that the dope she was taking for 10 years had now been found out by WADA. When she continued to take it whether out of arrogance or not, she then became a dishonest drug cheat.

If you honestly believe she was "sick", prescription or not and playing elite tennis and winning Grand Slams then you are seriously a goose. Be real now. Even Maria never claimed she was sick ffs.

In her own words she said that she had signs of diabetes and signs of magnesium deficiency...so how's that not being sick?
People with mag deficiency could get heart palpation to the point where they can't get up. Don't for second think, that it's just something similar to a headache that you get after a long night of drinking.

and I never said that I believed her, I do whoever willing to give her the benefit of a doubt, simply based on what I've read about the drug and her condition.

[jjgold]

Sherry stop sticking up for Sharapova

She knew she had a legal edge

[shari91]

In her own words she said that she had signs of diabetes and signs of magnesium deficiency...so how's that not being sick?
People with mag deficiency could get heart palpation to the point where they can't get up. Don't for second think, that it's just something similar to a headache that you get after a long night of drinking.

and I never said that I believed her, I do whoever willing to give her the benefit of a doubt, simply based on what I've read about the drug and her condition.

Lance Armstrong and a few hundred others in their "own words" gave us every denial and excuse they could think of. That's not including all of the Euro and Asian athletes that most of us on here would never even have heard of. I can't apologise for not buying her story especially when the manufacturer of the drug came out and said, yeah no it's not made for long term use and there is no proof of anything she's saying.

Sherry stop sticking up for Sharapova

She knew she had a legal edge

I'm just happy we can have a discussion in this thread with differing opinions and people aren't resorting to name calling and other crap. I love learning stuff and hearing other opinions so it's lovely that this chat has been able to continue without any drama

[Russian Rocket]

Shari you and I just have different ways of looking at things when they're presented to us.

While, you're quickly jumped the gun and started labeling Maria a cheater, I looked at the scientific data and I didn't base my opinion on assumptions.

This drug only has been added to the banned list this year, simply based on the assumption that it could potential give an edge to an athlete.
There are no studies done to support whether in fact it gives and edge to someone or not.

Another great example would be, when Wizzle tells everyone that he's making a decent coin capping hoops - it's easy to take his word for it and start thinking that he's really making money in gambling.
But when you pull all of his threads and records and put everything together, you quickly realize that he's a life-long clueless loser and a liar, who's simply whoring for attention here.

[cashin81]

In her own words she said that she had signs of diabetes and signs of magnesium deficiency...so how's that not being sick?
People with mag deficiency could get heart palpation to the point where they can't get up. Don't for second think, that it's just something similar to a headache that you get after a long night of drinking.

and I never said that I believed her, I do whoever willing to give her the benefit of a doubt, simply based on what I've read about the drug and her condition.

Because if there was any sign of her "being sick" - a doctor would have advised her against playing Tennis at the highest level.
And, it wont take 10 years to treat sings of diabetes or Mag def.

[cashin81]

Venus Willaims, actually was "sick". You could tell she wasnt herself and looked drained.
Sharapova, the opposite. Like an advert for what a healthy lifestyle could bring you.

[Russian Rocket]

Because if there was any sign of her "being sick" - a doctor would have advised her against playing Tennis at the highest level.
And, it wont take 10 years to treat sings of diabetes or Mag def.

please tells us Casha how long is it going to take? 8 years...6...or maybe 5?

Mag deficiency for some people could be a life-long condition.

[Russian Rocket]

Venus Willaims, actually was "sick". You could tell she wasnt herself and looked drained.
Sharapova, the opposite. Like an advert for what a healthy lifestyle could bring you.

Could it be because of the medication that she was taking was actually working for her?

[opie1988]

I don't give a fukk if she was doping or not...I'd still tap that ass like a hammer drill, bruh.

I bet that pussy good like codeine.

[CanuckG]

World's richest female athlete of the last decade and she can't pay someone to keep up with WADA changes. That's what is most shocking. Supposedly it's a 4 year max ban but we all know she will get 1.

[RubberKettle]

I don't give a fukk if she was doping or not...I'd still tap that ass like a hammer drill, bruh.

I bet that pussy good like codeine.

[cashin81]

please tells us Casha how long is it going to take? 8 years...6...or maybe 5?

Mag deficiency for some people could be a life-long condition.

Not a condition.
It can be a symptom of a chronic illness, but she hasnt calimed to be suffering from such a disease.

[cashin81]

Could it be because of the medication that she was taking was actually working for her?

Worked for her to get to the top, yes.

[Russian Rocket]

Not a condition.
It can be a symptom of a chronic illness, but she hasnt calimed to be suffering from such a disease.

She doesn't have to disclose every underlying condition to the public that she has that might cause the mag deficiency.
Things like that could be talked about with the anti doping agency and her physicians in private.

[Russian Rocket]

Worked for her to get to the top, yes.

and you based this assumption on what exactly?

point me to one study that supports what you've just said

[cashin81]

She doesn't have to disclose every underlying condition to the public that she has that might cause the mag deficiency.
Things like that could be talked about with the anti doping agency and her physicians in private.

lol, this is like talking to seaweed.
Unreal how stupid this comment is.

[Russian Rocket]

lol, this is like talking to seaweed.
Unreal how stupid this comment is.

huh?

wait so you assumed things and made them a fact in your head and you call my comments stupid


HA-HA-HA


thanks for wasting my time with this

[cashin81]

huh?

wait so you assumed things and made them a fact in your head and you call my comments stupid


HA-HA-HA


thanks for wasting my time with this

Wasting your time? You are ALWAYS here, hell you waste your time creating polls for SEAWEED?
WASTING YOUR TIME lol, Im sorry rocket - ill stop talking so you can spend some precious time making a poll for TWIZZLE and jerking off to the results.

[cashin81]

Wasting your time? You are ALWAYS here, hell you waste your time creating polls for SEAWEED?
WASTING YOUR TIME lol, Im sorry rocket - ill stop talking so you can spend some precious time making a poll for TWIZZLE and jerking off to the results.

I expect nominations.
This is a goodie.

[Russian Rocket]

Wasting your time? You are ALWAYS here, hell you waste your time creating polls for SEAWEED?
WASTING YOUR TIME lol, Im sorry rocket - ill stop talking so you can spend some precious time making a poll for TWIZZLE and jerking off to the results.

you're showing your weak side now Casha...you're much better than this

when I asked you for some cold facts, you crawled into a ball and started to make sorry ass attempts at insulting me.

go find me that scientific paper instead that can support all of those above claims that you've made about the benefits of Sharapova's steroid use

without it, you're just an angry fool....see..I didn't even need to put a poll together, to prove that

too EZ!


carry on now little angry child

[El Nino]

Sasha YOUR CLEAN

I shot many roids in my ass it is why my body looks decent but rooster is dead and small

[cashin81]

you're showing your weak side now Casha...you're much better than this

when I asked you for some cold facts, you crawled into a ball and started to make sorry ass attempts at insulting me.

go find me that scientific paper instead that can support all of those above claims that you've made about the benefits of Sharapova's steroid use

without it, you're just an angry fool....see..I didn't even need to put a poll together, to prove that

too EZ!


carry on now little angry child

None of us have cold hard facts. Asking for cold hard facts, is in fact a weak arguement because its obvious i cannot provide this, neither can you.
You look at the situation and make your own judgements.
Depedning on your intelligence, you make good calls or bad ones. To me, at this present time, backing Shara 100% is bad call.
I wont waste your time anymore.

[Russian Rocket]

I wont waste your time anymore.

yeah no shit...that's the only good call that you've made in this thread thus far

later dummy ...don't get so angry next time

[ManeOnFire]

LOL at anyone defending this FRAUD. Her accolades of the last decade will forever be tainted by the fact that she was using a now banned substance.

[Russian Rocket]

LOL at anyone defending this FRAUD. Her accolades of the last decade will forever be tainted by the fact that she was using a now banned substance.

this is the dumbest thing that I've read today

[ManeOnFire]

this is the dumbest thing that I've read today

She had a pharmaceutical advantage, no?

[Russian Rocket]

She had a pharmaceutical advantage, no?

ask yourself this simple question...if in two years anti-doping agency for whatever reason bans Advil...would that automatically taint accolades of all the athletes who took Advil today?

and as far the pharm advantage goes- like I've said in my previous posts...that's nothing more than assumption right now

[CanuckG]

Because meldonium medically has been shown to improve the exercise capacity of injured tissues (for example, injured tissues in the heart in heart attacks), it has been used without any approval for increasing exercise capacity of noninjured tissues (like muscles and a healthy heart).

The simplistic answer is that it seems to reduce oxidative stress on tissues.

WADA found evidence it is used to enhance performance by virtue of carrying more oxygen to muscle tissue.

A memo was sent out to athletes by Russia’s anti-doping agency last September informing them of the decision to ban its use.

Pova knew it enhanced her performance and knew it was illegal back in January -10000.

[ManeOnFire]

ask yourself this simple question...if in two years anti-doping agency for whatever reason bans Advil...would that automatically taint accolades of all the athletes who took Advil today?

Advil doesn't enhance performance while Meldonium does. Also consider that it has never been approved by the FDA, and Pova has been living in the US for a couple decades LOL.

[CanuckG]

https://jakegshelley.wordpress.com/

Great article on this drug

[Russian Rocket]

Advil doesn't enhance performance while Meldonium does. Also consider that it has never been approved by the FDA, and Pova has been living in the US for a couple decades LOL.

a. FDA doesn't rule the world
b. For a drug to be added to the list, it doesn't actually have to increase the performance...as long as it has the potential to enhance sports performance, the agency can freely included it to the outlawed list.

Caffeine, for example, was considered dope as recently as the 2000 Summer Olympics in Sydney and the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City, then removed from the list in 2004

[ManeOnFire]

a. FDA doesn't rule the world
b. For a drug to be added to the list, it doesn't actually have to increase the performance...as long as it has the potential to enhance sports performance, the agency can freely included it to the outlawed list.

a. Agreed, but that's not the main point.
b. I'm going to go with the study that says it “demonstrates an increase in endurance performance of athletes, improved rehabilitation after exercise, protection against stress, and enhanced activations of central nervous system (CNS) functions” over your hope that it might not.

She had an unfair advantage for a decade, and unless you can prove that all the other tennis players were using the same drug or something better there's no defense for this cheat.

[Russian Rocket]

a. Agreed, but that's not the main point.
b. I'm going to go with the study that says it “demonstrates an increase in endurance performance of athletes, improved rehabilitation after exercise, protection against stress, and enhanced activations of central nervous system (CNS) functions” over your hope that it might not.

She had an unfair advantage for a decade, and unless you can prove that all the other tennis players were using the same drug or something better there's no defense for this cheat.

a. than I'm not sure what your point is about FDA? and why are you talking about it?
b. she had unaffair advantage for a decade yet this drug was on an anti-doping agency white list...already then

[RubberKettle]

a. Agreed, but that's not the main point.
b. I'm going to go with the study that says it “demonstrates an increase in endurance performance of athletes, improved rehabilitation after exercise, protection against stress, and enhanced activations of central nervous system (CNS) functions” over your hope that it might not.

She had an unfair advantage for a decade, and unless you can prove that all the other tennis players were using the same drug or something better there's no defense for this cheat.

This does not make sense. You cannot be seen as having an unfair advantage by using a legal substance.

It is likely that she used the drug to aid her performance, but should not be retroactively punished for it.

Her punishment should be for the failed drug test, not for the use across "10 years."