Is america a democratic nation?

Ralphie Halves · 02-21-16, 07:36 PM

Originally posted by ACoochy

Ever heard of the phrase 'God bless America' amongst presidents and politicians?? The separation between church and state is almost non existant in USA. Such religious influence within not only politics but wider society in general simply doesn't exist in most other 1st world countries, so the argument that your a secular country hardly holds credibility when put under even minor scrutiny.

Could go on but wont as the history of America and religious influence is embarrassing when looked at through a 21st century lens...

I was talking about what you said was going on 100 years ago. We were WAY more religious back then. A bunch of Athiests? You'd have been hung.

grease lightnin · 02-21-16, 07:40 PM

Dommer hit the nail on the head. This is why bernie won the popular vote in IA but Hillary may still get more delegates in the end.

EmpireMaker · 02-21-16, 08:04 PM

Hillary has a pile of Superdelagates already, in states that haven't even had primaries yet. What kind of corrupt bullshit is that ? Sounds like a GOP move but the Democrats are making them too. The political system in this country is already very socialist but people don't want to call themselves that. We call these other countries corrupt but it is hard to believe any country could be much more corrupt than ours is right now.

Otters27 · 02-21-16, 08:26 PM

Originally posted by EmpireMaker

Hillary has a pile of Superdelagates already, in states that haven't even had primaries yet. What kind of corrupt bullshit is that ? Sounds like a GOP move but the Democrats are making them too. The political system in this country is already very socialist but people don't want to call themselves that. We call these other countries corrupt but it is hard to believe any country could be much more corrupt than ours is right now.

We force most other countries into corruption by monetary debt

MoMoneyMoVaughn · 02-21-16, 08:29 PM

Originally posted by Smoke

He moved to Saudi Arabia and converted to Islam.

May he rest in peace.

19th Hole · 02-21-16, 08:31 PM

Corporations are people

Ralphie Halves · 02-21-16, 10:18 PM

Originally posted by 19th Hole

Corporations are people

People do forget this. They let movies and propaganda make them dumb to this. Corporations are a LOT of people. They are a huge part of your life, and create millions of jobs. You can't just screw them for the sake of screwing them, as badly as you may want to.

ACoochy · 02-21-16, 10:26 PM

Originally posted by Ralphie Halves

I was talking about what you said was going on 100 years ago. We were WAY more religious back then. A bunch of Athiests? You'd have been hung.

Ok my bad on the wording.

Maybe not Athiests more than non-religious...

Moreso if corporations are people then why does the government not recognise them as that?

Last i heard corporations were still recognised as entities...

Ralphie Halves · 02-21-16, 10:37 PM

Originally posted by ACoochy

Moreso if corporations are people then why does the government not recognise them as that?

Last i heard corporations were still recognised as entities...

We were being metaphorical, but...

Our corporate taxes are so high, you need to reclassify things and give corps a lot of advantages just to keep them here. UK as well.

eidolon · 02-21-16, 10:53 PM

I would like the USA to be broken up into 4 different countries.
Those states and in the south are 50 years behind everyone else.

texhooper · 02-22-16, 12:45 AM

Originally posted by eidolon

I would like the USA to be broken up into 4 different countries.
Those states and in the south are 50 years behind everyone else.

why stop there. just make every state a country.

rkelly110 · 02-22-16, 09:32 AM

Originally posted by Ralphie Halves

We were being metaphorical, but...

Our corporate taxes are so high, you need to reclassify things and give corps a lot of advantages just to keep them here. UK as well.

Bull shit. Reagan cut their taxes and so did Bush. Obama continued. If their taxes are too high, it's from the state
level, not from federal.

Using that excuse to pack up and move overseas is bullshit. NAFTA allowed that shit to happen. Cutting employee
costs and bringing their shit back here duty free brings huge profits and makes shareholders happy.

Now we are doing another trade deal. The fukking continues.

The corruption comes from corporations who bought our congressmen. Money talks, bullshit walks.

19th Hole · 02-22-16, 12:35 PM

Originally posted by ACoochy

Ok my bad on the wording.

Maybe not Athiests more than non-religious...

Moreso if corporations are people then why does the government not recognise them as that?

Last i heard corporations were still recognised as entities...

Maybe you should actually step foot on American soil.
1) USA is less religious today than ever before in our history.
2) SCOTUS - corporations are people.
(Ruling was regarding political donations.)

grease lightnin · 02-22-16, 08:05 PM

Originally posted by 19th Hole

Maybe you should actually step foot on American soil.
1) USA is less religious today than ever before in our history.
2) SCOTUS - corporations are people.
(Ruling was regarding political donations.)

I think coocher was saying corporations are regarded as entities for tax purposes.

The argument behind corporate personhood is that people do not lose their constutional rights when they act collectively.