Again The NFL Refs Screw Up Another Call And Give The Wrong Team The Win

[blackHIPPY]

Detroit could have went for the jugular instead of running the ball 3 straight times to run the clock down and give the ball back.

I think a coach with balls would have went for the 1st and end that game... and not let it get to that point.

they made the right decision
remember they converted that 3rd n long through the air to burn the clock to :30
should have faith your d can keep a team from scoring w :30 and no t.o.

[TheMoneyShot]

Look at the defenders reaction. He never even flinched when the flag came out. He knew what the call was.

I don't know of anyone who's going to argue with an official being gassed like he was. Arguing is going to get the call overturned? No.

Rodgers snapped his head back like an ahole. Acting job. Awesome. Sold the call. There wasn't anything there.

[DwightShrute]

[DwightShrute]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmBgptnhP9E

[Eddy Munny]

Just watched it again, #42 Lions DB was looking for the ball before contact and had the position and was making a play on the ball. Then #84 WR for the Packers runs into him and tackles the DB. It was a great no call.

Glad to see somebody was watching the same game as me. Everybody calling for a flag on the Lions for that play need to get their eyes/head checked. If anything, that was offensive pass interference. People need to remember that the defensive back has just as much right to the ball as the receiver and #42 had established such good position that he, in a sense, became the receiver and the Packers receiver (de facto DB at that point) hugged him as the Lions player was making a play on the ball.

If the jersey numbers were reversed, the Packers would have been flagged for that 100% of the time. People need to quit pointing to this play as a "missed call" that somehow benefited the Lions. It's like viewers have been so brainwashed by the deluge of flags in today's NFL, that they expect the defense to be penalized for any and all contact that occurs in the secondary. Again, the DB had position and was illegally contacted by the receiver that possibly prevented an interception. I'm cool with the no-call on the play, but if there was a penalty missed... it was offensive P.I. Now put that in your pipe and smoke it.

[WWCD]

You losers are nothing but a bunch of little p*ssies who have to look for an excuse to hide the fact that you are terrible gamblers. Each and every one of you who blame bad calls for your stupid wagers should have your worthless arses kicked. There is not a man among you. You are nothing more than a bunch of cry babies. You do not deserve to post. Sometime the wrong people die.

LiLMommy is such a weenie. Always acting like some tough guy and talking sh1t.

[packerd_00]

You losers are nothing but a bunch of little p*ssies who have to look for an excuse to hide the fact that you are terrible gamblers. Each and every one of you who blame bad calls for your stupid wagers should have your worthless arses kicked. There is not a man among you. You are nothing more than a bunch of cry babies. You do not deserve to post. Sometime the wrong people die.

Who is this clown.

[packerd_00]

And defending a bad/missed/guessed call with "they should have stopped it" is nonsense. Get the call right and the rest is moot.

Arent always going to have calls go your way.

[DwightShrute]

Glad to see somebody was watching the same game as me. Everybody calling for a flag on the Lions for that play need to get their eyes/head checked. If anything, that was offensive pass interference. People need to remember that the defensive back has just as much right to the ball as the receiver and #42 had established such good position that he, in a sense, became the receiver and the Packers receiver (de facto DB at that point) hugged him as the Lions player was making a play on the ball.

If the jersey numbers were reversed, the Packers would have been flagged for that 100% of the time. People need to quit pointing to this play as a "missed call" that somehow benefited the Lions. It's like viewers have been so brainwashed by the deluge of flags in today's NFL, that they expect the defense to be penalized for any and all contact that occurs in the secondary. Again, the DB had position and was illegally contacted by the receiver that possibly prevented an interception. I'm cool with the no-call on the play, but if there was a penalty missed... it was offensive P.I. Now put that in your pipe and smoke it.

from that angle I can see why you could say that but remember that the receiver has the right to the ball also. Seeing as the ball was underthrown, you can see the Lions' playing clearly interfered the Packer player who was getting ready to catch the ball but all he got was his arms around the defender (not the ball) because he clearly interfered with his ability to catch the ball. PI all the way. The absolute definition of defensive pass interference right there in the gif.

If the ref made the right call, first down in fg range, they kick the game winning FG. No iffy facemask call. No hail mary needed.

[Eddy Munny]

from that angle I can see what you could say that but remember that the receiver has the right to the ball also. Seeing as the ball was underthrown, you can see the Lions' playing clearly interfered the Packer player who was getting ready to catch the ball but all he got was his arms around the defender (not the ball) who clearly interfered with his ability to catch the ball. PI all the way. They kick the game winning FG. No hail mary needed.

I don't think I need to "remember" that the receiver has a right to the ball. That's obvious. But the defensive back had established ideal position... the position that the receiver would have wanted for an underthrown ball. You say the Packer player was "getting ready to catch the ball" but how exactly was that going to happen, lol? He was in such bad position that he was relegated to "defending" against an interception. The problem with that is that he did so illegally. You cannot hitch a piggyback ride on the defender and then hope to get bailed out by a flag in your favor.

[TheMoneyShot]

Wow... this video is perfectly in sync to back what you say. Can't argue with you on this at all.

In regular LIVE motion... looks like Detroit DB ran right into the GB WR. If you show the prior 2 seconds... looks like DET DB was in trouble... racing to WR. He does turn his head... not totally convinced he knew where the ball was in the air... the hands reacting was instinct in my opinion.

[meader99]

I don't know of anyone who's going to argue with an official being gassed like he was. Arguing is going to get the call overturned? No.

Rodgers snapped his head back like an ahole. Acting job. Awesome. Sold the call. There wasn't anything there.

Bullshit. If he thought it was a bad call he would have been irate. He knew what he did, you could see it when the flag came out by his body language.

[TheMoneyShot]

Bullshit. If he thought it was a bad call he would have been irate. He knew what he did, you could see it when the flag came out by his body language.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmBgptnhP9E

Bullshit. If he thought it was a bad call he would have been irate. He knew what he did, you could see it when the flag came out by his body language.

Take a good look at this video. It wasn't a face mask penalty. There was no grasping and twisting. Rodgers head snapping back influenced the refs decision.

What video are you watching?

You mean to tell me you can't bump a players face mask at all with your hand? What the hell do WR's do when they are giving a stiff arm to a DB when running with the ball? Wake up man. If you can hit the face mask with your hand... there would be a penalty on every play.

It's grasping and twisting. There was no grasping and twisting.

[DwightShrute]

it was an iffy call for sure. He did get his finger inside the facemask you cannot deny that. That play gets a 15-yard penalty 9 times out of 10. Especially on the QB. Could the ref have let it go? Sure. The detroit player knew the flag was coming. You could tell just by his reaction. Could the detroit player have realized that Rodgers was the only guy left and no one else was behind him and basically let him fall down on his own and take the win? Sure could have. Rodgers' discount double check acting experience paid off. He sold it for all it was worth and got the call. You see it all the time in sports. Look at back catchers in MLB move their gloves into the strike zone on any given pitch, hoping to get the call from the ump. The fact was, it was close. He did hit the facemask and did get his finger inside it. Watching the replay is easy as opposed to making the call right there in real time.

The ref let go an obvious PI on Detroit the drive before. These things tend to even themselves out throughout the games.

[swordsandtequila]

from that angle I can see why you could say that but remember that the receiver has the right to the ball also. Seeing as the ball was underthrown, you can see the Lions' playing clearly interfered the Packer player who was getting ready to catch the ball but all he got was his arms around the defender (not the ball) because he clearly interfered with his ability to catch the ball. PI all the way. The absolute definition of defensive pass interference right there in the gif.

If the ref made the right call, first down in fg range, they kick the game winning FG. No iffy facemask call. No hail mary needed.

Incorrect. If the defender is looking back for the ball he can run the receiver over, doesn't matter as long as he's making a play for the ball. Eddy Munny is correct.

[Eddy Munny]

This DwightShrute guy must really love watching flags fly. He is lobbying for a penalty to occur on every snap. Jeezus, I prefer to watch football. There was no PI on Detroit and there was no facemask on Aaron Rodgers... I guess this is obvious only to football fans. Dwight loves watching three hours of officiating with a little football on the side. Sure, why let the players determine the outcome? That would be boring. Let's give the field cops all the power.

[DwightShrute]

This DwightShrute guy must really love watching flags fly. He is lobbying for a penalty to occur on every snap. Jeezus, I prefer to watch football. There was no PI on Detroit and there was no facemask on Aaron Rodgers... I guess this is obvious only to football fans. Dwight loves watching three hours of officiating with a little football on the side. Sure, why let the players determine the outcome? That would be boring. Let's give the field cops all the power.

I appreciate good sarcasm.

[meader99]

Incorrect. If the defender is looking back for the ball he can run the receiver over, doesn't matter as long as he's making a play for the ball. Eddy Munny is correct.

This is not true. Go back to earlier in the game when the same dude got a PI call on Richard Rodgers in the exact same play. They called him for it and Mike Carey said it was a good call. Then when they didn't call the exact same play, Mike Carey says it was the right no call.

[meader99]

This DwightShrute guy must really love watching flags fly. He is lobbying for a penalty to occur on every snap. Jeezus, I prefer to watch football. There was no PI on Detroit and there was no facemask on Aaron Rodgers... I guess this is obvious only to football fans. Dwight loves watching three hours of officiating with a little football on the side. Sure, why let the players determine the outcome? That would be boring. Let's give the field cops all the power.

Jesus Christ, didn't the players decide the outcome on the Hail Mary? If you can't stop a 61 yard Hail Mary, perhaps you don't deserve to win.

[Eddy Munny]

Jesus Christ, didn't the players decide the outcome on the Hail Mary? If you can't stop a 61 yard Hail Mary, perhaps you don't deserve to win.

Well with this logic, you could pretty much absolve officials of every bad call made from here to infinity. The players are always going to have opportunities, but that shouldn't grant any geezer in a striped shirt carte blanche to fukk up his responsibility to uphold the integrity of the game.

[kidcudi92]

Sandy Hook, San Bernardino, Pats and Lions, when will it end? All paid actors.

If the Lions and Pats had been armed, this would not have happened

[Notorious_Donk]

The refs didn't lose that game for the Lions, the Lions lost that game. THE LIONS blew a 20 point lead, THE LIONS offense hit a speed bump, THE LIONS kept 6'5" Megatron on the sidelines for the hail mary, THE LIONS lost that game. You dumbfukks are acting like its easy to throw a 65 yard rainbow pass into a crowd of people in the end zone and catch it.

It comes down to the Lions being the Lions... just like the Browns being the Browns.

[Notorious_Donk]

This DwightShrute guy must really love watching flags fly. He is lobbying for a penalty to occur on every snap. Jeezus, I prefer to watch football. There was no PI on Detroit and there was no facemask on Aaron Rodgers... I guess this is obvious only to football fans. Dwight loves watching three hours of officiating with a little football on the side. Sure, why let the players determine the outcome? That would be boring. Let's give the field cops all the power.

But that's the NFL nowadays. They make the rules, we don't. Based on rule both are penalties......

[Eddy Munny]

But that's the NFL nowadays. They make the rules, we don't. Based on rule both are penalties......

No, they're not. The alleged P.I. wasn't even called, so I contend that the officials got that right. The "facemask" on Rodgers was an illusion. In real time it would be difficult for the official to make that distinction, so I can't say I'm outraged at the call, but it was a blown call nonetheless. What the Lions did or didn't do is immaterial. Bad calls are bad calls and can influence the outcome as much as the teams themselves.

[Notorious_Donk]

No, they're not. The alleged P.I. wasn't even called, so I contend that the officials got that right. The "facemask" on Rodgers was an illusion. In real time it's hard for the official to make the distinction so I can't say I'm outraged at the call, but it was a blown call. What the Lions did or didn't do is immaterial. Bad calls are bad calls.

The guy reaches straight for Rodgers head, hits his facemask, and Rodgers head jerks. At full speed, there's no doubt refs make that call

[Eddy Munny]

His head turned, it didn't "jerk." The defender brushed Rodgers' facemask with his thumb, but he didn't grab it. Rodgers was pulled down by his shoulder pads and happened to turn his head to avoid another oncoming defender at the same moment, creating the illusion that he was pulled down by his facemask. The official responded to what he thought he saw. It was a mistake.

[swordsandtequila]

Incorrect. If the defender is looking back for the ball he can run the receiver over, doesn't matter as long as he's making a play for the ball. Eddy Munny is correct.

This is not true. Go back to earlier in the game when the same dude got a PI call on Richard Rodgers in the exact same play. They called him for it and Mike Carey said it was a good call. Then when they didn't call the exact same play, Mike Carey says it was the right no call.

Yes, it is. Regardless whether they made the call earlier in the game or not, or Mike Carey agrees with it or not, that is the rule. The fact the officials themselves can't agree what is and isn't a penalty speaks volumes. Incidental contact (bump, trip, whatever) when defender is looking at the ball is not a penalty. Period. That argument is moot anyways as it's pretty obvious the receiver initiated the contact. Proper no-call.

[Jeep_Life 42]

It was a BS call end of rant!

[redtuna]

Detroit is not smart . On the penalty play Aaron Rodgers was not eligible to throw another forward pass(you are allowed one per play). He threw a forward pass to start the play and after some laterals it came back to him.He could only do two things : run or make another lateral pass.There should have been no urgency to tackle Aaron Rodgers.

[16kredit]

not sure if I am late or not, I saw exactly 2 holdings and 2 illegal block in the backs on defensive ends and tackles on that last play. I mean none of them called?

[DwightShrute]

[TheMoneyShot]

Dallas At Washington...

Just moments ago. Desean Jackson's punt return. How is that a fumble??? Wrist hit ground... holding ball. Ground can't cause a fumble. Why did the refs say that was a fumble?

[DwightShrute]

Dallas At Washington...

Just moments ago. Desean Jackson's punt return. How is that a fumble??? Wrist hit ground... holding ball. Ground can't cause a fumble. Why did the refs say that was a fumble?

Section 2 Dead BallArticle 1: Dead Ball Declared. An official shall declare the ball dead and the down endeda) when a runner is contacted by a defensive player and touches the ground with any part of his body other than hishands or feet. The ball is dead the instant the runner touches the ground. A runner touching the ground with hishands or feet while in the grasp of an opponent may continue to advance; orNote: If, after defensive contact, any part of a runner’s leg above the ankle or any part of his arm above the wrist touches theground, the runner is down

http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/rulebook/pdfs/10_2012_BallInPlay_DeadBall_Scrimm.pdf

[TheMoneyShot]

Section 2 Dead BallArticle 1: Dead Ball Declared. An official shall declare the ball dead and the down endeda) when a runner is contacted by a defensive player and touches the ground with any part of his body other than hishands or feet. The ball is dead the instant the runner touches the ground. A runner touching the ground with hishands or feet while in the grasp of an opponent may continue to advance; orNote: If, after defensive contact, any part of a runner’s leg above the ankle or any part of his arm above the wrist touches theground, the runner is down

http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/rulebook/pdfs/10_2012_BallInPlay_DeadBall_Scrimm.pdf

So Desean Jackson should of been down?

Why is the NFL such a MAFIA that they make up rules for whatever reason? I can't take anymore of this sh#$ this year!

[Jeep_Life 42]

So Desean Jackson should of been down?

Why is the NFL such a MAFIA that they make up rules for whatever reason? I can't take anymore of this sh#$ this year!

the fix was in!