Reality is everyone in college football is playing for 2nd place

[KnockEmDown]

Come on Mac, LSU? The corn dogs would have lost to the penetrating Orange if they (Syracuse) had any kind of offensive. Too bad they had to start a walk-on 5th stringer no game experience. For as much talent as LSU has, coaching must suck because they are so one dimensional. They just got dominated by a Hogs team that lost to a MAC team...at home. Who have the Cowbells played OOC? Props to Auburn beating JVST in OVERTIME. Ol'miss is a pretender and A&M has no defense (they need to go back to the Big 12). Bama's best win is Iowa's best win...Wisconsin! The SEC West is completely over-hyped. I do agree with you though that the Gators can beat them. Coker is an average QB surrounded by elite talent. If the Gators can get pressure on him early and win the field position, they have a chance. Anyways Iowa will probably lose to Big Red, but if they go undefeated, props to them. Going undefeated is hard to do in any division.

[sandman0713]

Bama would be the shit out of Iowa.

Iowa trys to line up with two TEs and pound you. Bama eats that shit up. Look at what they did to LSU.

The teams that give Bama trouble are spread teams. Bama still hasn't shown me anything to make me think they'll beat a really good spread offense. OU hung over 40 points on them in the Sugar Bowl two years ago. Ohio State lit them up last year and Ole Miss lit them up this year.

Bama is really good but the spread and hurry up offense is a great equalizer. Bama doesn't have to see any good QBs in the SEC.

Bama wants no part of ou...I am certain of that. Clemson or ou either one would paddle that behind imo. Saban prolly still has nightmares about the last time they played ou.

[TheMoneyShot]

Alabama would beat Iowa by 4 touchdowns

I'll take Iowa +28 for the max, please.

This made me laugh

[mikewlgm]

Ohio St beat them last year as 10 point underdog.

Exactly....amazing to see how SEC fans have forgotten that already.

[BigdaddyQH]

The bottom line is that Urban Meyer can outcoach Nick Saban in his sleep, as he proved last season. As far as the Okie teams go, get a life. You clowns are too Chicken to play any decent non-con team, so you spend your time beating each other up and trying to tell the sane people out there that your conference is good. If Notre Dame wins out and Okie State loses, the Big 12 get's shut out again. Who are you going to take? A team that lost on the road by two points to an undefeated team, or a team that lost by 7 points to a team that will not even get a bowl bid. Bye bye OU. The Big 12 had better man up and add two teams, or get used to this treatment.

[dmncnlou]

The bottom line is that Urban Meyer can outcoach Nick Saban in his sleep, as he proved last season. As far as the Okie teams go, get a life. You clowns are too Chicken to play any decent non-con team, so you spend your time beating each other up and trying to tell the sane people out there that your conference is good. If Notre Dame wins out and Okie State loses, the Big 12 get's shut out again. Who are you going to take? A team that lost on the road by two points to an undefeated team, or a team that lost by 7 points to a team that will not even get a bowl bid. Bye bye OU. The Big 12 had better man up and add two teams, or get used to this treatment.

I hear you about Urban. He outcoached Nick last year. But, if Alabama wins it this year that argument is null and void.

[M.W.]

The bottom line is that Urban Meyer can outcoach Nick Saban in his sleep, as he proved last season. As far as the Okie teams go, get a life. You clowns are too Chicken to play any decent non-con team....

You love to embarrass yourself. OU played Tennessee this year and last. Notre Dame in '12 and '13. Florida State in '10 and '11. OSU played defending champ Florida State last year, Miss St the year before that, etc.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Year in, year out, LSU has some of the best talent anywhere in CFB. LSU controls the entire state, they have no other state school vying for talent. EVERY year LSU is lining up top talent against opposing teams not named Bama. But you hit the nail in the coffin. Coaching is sorely lacking and even more is the lack of a quality QB. LSU year after year trots out guys who can't throw the ball.

The SEC West is hyped for one reason... They win games. Sure they've lost a few wtf games too but go look at who the SEC west has beaten over the last 5 years especially with the Mississippi teams getting better. I don't put a lot of stock in player rankings but I damn sure look at who is going to the NFL and the SEC pumps them out more than any other conference. That does not mean a given team is going to win a game however, especially because a bunch of SEC teams have crappy QBs.

Come on Mac, LSU? The corn dogs would have lost to the penetrating Orange if they (Syracuse) had any kind of offensive. Too bad they had to start a walk-on 5th stringer no game experience. For as much talent as LSU has, coaching must suck because they are so one dimensional. They just got dominated by a Hogs team that lost to a MAC team...at home. Who have the Cowbells played OOC? Props to Auburn beating JVST in OVERTIME. Ol'miss is a pretender and A&M has no defense (they need to go back to the Big 12). Bama's best win is Iowa's best win...Wisconsin! The SEC West is completely over-hyped. I do agree with you though that the Gators can beat them. Coker is an average QB surrounded by elite talent. If the Gators can get pressure on him early and win the field position, they have a chance. Anyways Iowa will probably lose to Big Red, but if they go undefeated, props to them. Going undefeated is hard to do in any division.

[Seattle Slew]

Bama's path to easy title would be ND and then Clemson. Dabo is not beating Saban in any world, and ND is not good enough.

Oklahoma and Ohio State can beat Alabama.

[sandman0713]

Bama would be the shit out of Iowa.

Iowa trys to line up with two TEs and pound you. Bama eats that shit up. Look at what they did to LSU.

The teams that give Bama trouble are spread teams. Bama still hasn't shown me anything to make me think they'll beat a really good spread offense. OU hung over 40 points on them in the Sugar Bowl two years ago. Ohio State lit them up last year and Ole Miss lit them up this year.

Bama is really good but the spread and hurry up offense is a great equalizer. Bama doesn't have to see any good QBs in the SEC.

Over the last 2 years big 12\sec have played 11 times...with the big 12 teams averaging over 33 points per game and going over 40 twice. I know the sec d's are better than big 12 d's...of course...but this does show that big 12 o's are not easily contained by any d from any conference. It is just 2 completely different styles of football that are worlds apart and really impossible to compare imo. I really hope ou gets in if they win out. I cannot think of a more entertaining matchup in the playoff than bama\okie.

[mikewlgm]

Do you really want to compare Bama and Iowa's schedule? I don't think Bama should have been ranked in the top 4 until they beat LSU but people are repping them off of last year and talented recruits. LSU, MSU may not be top 10 material but they would both beat anyone Iowa has played to date.

SEC fans

[sandman0713]

The bottom line is that Urban Meyer can outcoach Nick Saban in his sleep, as he proved last season. As far as the Okie teams go, get a life. You clowns are too Chicken to play any decent non-con team, so you spend your time beating each other up and trying to tell the sane people out there that your conference is good. If Notre Dame wins out and Okie State loses, the Big 12 get's shut out again. Who are you going to take? A team that lost on the road by two points to an undefeated team, or a team that lost by 7 points to a team that will not even get a bowl bid. Bye bye OU. The Big 12 had better man up and add two teams, or get used to this treatment.

You do realize there are more games? Clemson will have UNC in acc title game I think...nd will have Stanford and maybe even a tough out this weekend with BC...Ohio St has mich schools and then Iowa...bama I can't see losing. Bottom line...if either okie team wins out they will likely make it in. Teams are gonna lose last few weeks like always...so I think anyone in top 7 or 8 likely control things as far as playoff goes.

[swordsandtequila]

Who is beating Alabama on a neutral field? It took a miracle for Ole miss to beat them and now Alabama has their act together

Anybody with a breathing QB. Quarterbacks in the SEC are dogshit. Including Alabama's. Respectfully.

[RavensFan2k3]

Notre Dame, Ohio State, Iowa

Not sure if serious

[daneblazer]

One NFL scout told Fox Sports' Bruce Feldman that he's never seen a DL as loaded as Alabama's.

In this case, the scout is talking about Alabama's front three, stating the trio of Jarran Reed, A'Shawn Robinson and Jonathan Allen could all be first rounders. Allen is the best upfield disruptor of the bunch, while Reed and Robinson shine in the two gapping, stack and the line of scrimmage and shed role. One key to the success is rotation, keeping the linemen fresh thanks to outstanding depth.
Source: Fox Sports
Nov 18 - 9:48 AM

[PREMOSIX]

Ohio St beat them last year as 10 point underdog.

Alabama is much better team defensively this yr and are only team than shut zeke down

[PREMOSIX]

SEC fans

Ummm they destroyed 2 top 10 undefeated teams on the road and mopped Lsu so what you sayin?? Eye test says it all..Bama defense is crazy and Henry is a truck

[daneblazer]

So much for Urban

[Reload]

Lane Kiffin on anyone's sideline is enough to blow it. Will find a way to blow it in deep stretch.

[swordsandtequila]

Ummm they destroyed 2 top 10 undefeated teams on the road and mopped Lsu so what you sayin?? Eye test says it all..Bama defense is crazy and Henry is a truck

Not top 10 anymore, those teams all have 3 losses. And LSU is hot garbage, one dimensional to the max. And they lost @ home to a 3 loss team. I don't care how good they are, results are supposed to matter in this "new" system. If eye test says it all, why play the games? Ask the Buckeyes.

[The Kraken]

So much for Okie State

[swordsandtequila]

double post

[Mac4Lyfe]

Everyone keeps saying that OSU beat Bama last year. If you relook at the tape, Lane Kiffin beat Bama with his horseshit play calling. Bama had that game in total control until Kiffin got cute.

and no, I am not a Bama fan.

Choklahoma is very overrated IMO. They are not real tough in the trenches. A below average Tennessee team should have beat them easily but I see an offense that can be stopped and a very porous defense.

There's really not a lot of great teams this year but a lot of good teams. We will soon see what teams can get over the hump.

Lane Kiffin on anyone's sideline is enough to blow it. Will find a way to blow it in deep stretch.

[The Kraken]

If Oklahoma makes it in the playoff, it's over, Sooners are your NC's

[chico2663]

Everyone keeps saying that OSU beat Bama last year. If you relook at the tape, Lane Kiffin beat Bama with his horseshit play calling. Bama had that game in total control until Kiffin got cute.

and no, I am not a Bama fan.

Choklahoma is very overrated IMO. They are not real tough in the trenches. A below average Tennessee team should have beat them easily but I see an offense that can be stopped and a very porous defense.

There's really not a lot of great teams this year but a lot of good teams. We will soon see what teams can get over the hump.

What were you watching. Cardale threw 70 yd bomb so the safeties had to move out of the tackle box. cardale and elliot ran all over them after that.I lost 500 on alabama that day.

[RavensFan2k3]

Meyer will outcoach Saban when it counts.

Guess we won't find out

[dmncnlou]

Guess we won't find out

We won't find out.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Bama was dominating the game early. OSU could not stop the run but Lane Kiffin for some stupid reason kept passing the ball into 3 interceptions that basically killed them. Yes, OSU blitzed them in the run game but Bama should have had a 2 TD lead early which would have made OSU 1 dimensional.

I had money on OSU but was real happy Kiffin fukked up.

What were you watching. Cardale threw 70 yd bomb so the safeties had to move out of the tackle box. cardale and elliot ran all over them after that.I lost 500 on alabama that day.

[sandman0713]

Ummm they destroyed 2 top 10 undefeated teams on the road and mopped Lsu so what you sayin?? Eye test says it all..Bama defense is crazy and Henry is a truck

You watch too much ESPN. Bama is tough...and it is between them and Clemson right now for the best team in the country imo. They did lose to ole Miss at home...not a real good loss. They played close with the hogs and vols...who both lost to big 12 teams this year. Bottom line...I think it will be a very competitive playoff bracket this year.

[daneblazer]

The Golden Age of the SEC ended when Kelvim Benjamin caught that td vs Auburn and Aaron Murray, Mettenberger, Clowney, Manziel and that bunch left. They haven't been able to get it together offensively since. I agree, SEC is down this year

[daneblazer]

The battle for 2nd place starts Thursday.

i would like to see what Clemson can do. I think they have the best shot

[Booya711]

The battle for 2nd place starts Thursday.

i would like to see what Clemson can do. I think they have the best shot

this is what's tough for me. I would like to see Clemson win for the ACC since people never give the ACC respect. This would give the ACC the champion two out of the last three years.

but as an FSU fan, I cannot root for them

[daneblazer]

Here we go