American Pharoah In the Travers Stakes

[Jowframs]

Baffert was thinking of skipping this Race
i think he should have
this race comes up very tough to win
input??

[CWD]

if he wins they would be very wise to rest him till the classic, if they have the stones, will be some interesting decisions. got a funny feeling about 2morrow.

[unusialsusp5]

Baffert was thinking of skipping this Race
i think he should have
this race comes up very tough to win
input??

running against the same horses he's been drubbing regularly. at 1-5 how can you bet it. not really a super horse, lack of competition makes him look better than he is. will have a problem with beholder in the BC classic.

[Jowframs]

Beholder what a Beast!
Richard Mandella back with a big barn this year
he has won a lot of breeders cup races in his career

[Jowframs]

running against the same horses he's been drubbing regularly. at 1-5 how can you bet it. not really a super horse, lack of competition makes him look better than he is. will have a problem with beholder in the BC classic.

It's funny you mention competition
the Belmont with the horses that had early speed,not one of them challenged him
a set up?Conspiracy??

[unusialsusp5]

It's funny you mention competition
the Belmont with the horses that had early speed,not one of them challenged him
a set up?Conspiracy??

it looked like they didn't try to beat him. needed a triple crown winner to try to save the sport that's on life support these days. someone will challenge him today, interesting angle on which one will pick up the pieces. hint: texas red.

[davidchong]

Upstart (no. 1) to win.

[Jowframs]

Upstart (no. 1) to win.

I like it!!Big Jock Swap

[Heppy10]

My bets

Race 11
#2 American Pharoah
#4 Texas Red
#1 Upstart
#10 Smart Transition
WPS #10
EX box 2,4,1,10
Tri 2,10/4,1,10/4,1,10

[dtp]

Upstart (no. 1) to win.

Love davidchong's picks! Where have they been lately?

[Jowframs]

Looks like a fast track
any rain in the forecast??

[DrunkHorseplayer]

Ex 4/1
Tri 1,4/1,4/1,2,4,6,7

[CanuckG]

R8 take the #11 runhappy and I hate laying chalk especially at the Spa so I'll take a shot on the #7 Keen Ice

[mrginandtonic]

R8 take the #11 runhappy and I hate laying chalk especially at the Spa so I'll take a shot on the #7 Keen Ice

Good call on the #11.

[Jowframs]

R8 take the #11 runhappy and I hate laying chalk especially at the Spa so I'll take a shot on the #7 Keen Ice

Nice Call Best Mud Number in the field(although not muddy)

[aggieshawn]

R8 take the #11 runhappy and I hate laying chalk especially at the Spa so I'll take a shot on the #7 Keen Ice

Canadians can handicap... got a huge win 4 to APharoah due to this tip alone.

[Jowframs]

Ok...let's do it
Ex-Wheel...1,4,7w1,4,7,5,6,2

[Jowframs]

Super-wheel
2/5,8,9,10/1,4,5,7,8,9,10/1,4,5,6,7,8,9,10

[CanuckG]

r8 take the #11 runhappy and i hate laying chalk especially at the spa so i'll take a shot on the #7 keen ice

keen ice wins it

[jtoler]

Man that horse looked like a robotic machine the way he just came through stalking.

[mikemca]

Serves the Zayat's right for being cocky

I'm sure Baffert will be telling them I told you so

[Jowframs]

ok...let's do it
ex-wheel...1,4,7w1,4,7,5,6,2

boom

[jjgold]

cannot win them all

[jtoler]

Id be sick to my stomach if I paid AP price with him pulling away only to get stalked down like that.

[CWD]

dont think they have balls enought to run him in another race, they dont have anything to gain now anways i think they said his value couldnt go up a penny after belmont even if he swept every race to end of year

[trytrytry]

Serves the Zayat's right for being cocky

I'm sure Baffert will be telling them I told you so

we had two great owners for the sport last two seasons. thank goodness the trainers and breeders do not call the shots in this sport..

[Jowframs]

Now that everyone knows how to beat this horse
Skip the Classic
Retire Him

[mrginandtonic]

Serves the Zayat's right for being cocky

I'm sure Baffert will be telling them I told you so

I agree totally!!!

[Jowframs]

dont think they have balls enought to run him in another race, they dont have anything to gain now anways i think they said his value couldnt go up a penny after belmont even if he swept every race to end of year

Greed Takes Over
they will run him in The Classic I Believe

[DrunkHorseplayer]

Very tough to go wire to wire at 9f at Saratoga. If I bet AP to win I'd be sick; he was 1/5 to win and paid 1/5 to place.

[Jeffie]

They supposedly did it for the sport. So Fans can see him race. I don't buy it though they were greedy. I think they get like 1.5m just for bringing him to Saratoga.

[LT Profits]

[sandyw123]

The Zayat's were obviously motivated by money. Bob Baffert should have stuck to his guns. And why was Keen Ice such a long shot? Texas Red at 5-1 didn't even hit the board.

[CWD]

Greed Takes Over
they will run him in The Classic I Believe

i dont know how their deal works with whoever they sold the breeding rights to but its a different story after this loss. if he had won today and was going into the BC with an undefeated 3YO season that would be one thing and you could say money wasnt really a factor. now he goes into BC and you know thats the only reason he is there IMO - he gets hurt in the process zayat name might as well be munson.

[Heppy10]

today was the first time i ever bet on him and he lost, i think you can all thank me