Mark Cuban's take on the Republican party

[jjgold]

he's running for president because of power and ego. it's the same reason a coach who has a kushy college job would take an nfl job. you don't think he sits awake at night jerking off to the thought of being called "president trump" instead of "mr. trump?" that's the number 1 reason he's trying to be president. then well after that, perhaps all the things you say are a distant second.

game over

[DwightShrute]

He's done his homework on how the American people feel and is exploiting that.
Now he needs to come up with plans on how to make happen the shit he's spewing. (if he can)

isn't that what he's supposed to do? Listen to the people? Hello??!!

or would you rather have the same ole president catering to business instead?

You act as if there's some magical plan these seasoned politicians have. A secret or something? Is there a book? A secret handshake? Well, how's that working? The establishment wants suckers to believe that in order to be a great president you need to be in politics for years. Again, how's that been working?

The obstruct and blame Obama presidency has obviously created a new generation of blamers and submissives.

Give me a leader that is smart enough get things done when things change. Someone who appoints the right people to help do the job. That is what great leaders do. Because guess what .... things will change. They always do.

Tump is that guy. I doubt enough Americans are smart enough to vote for him. They rather keep pretending to believe the same politicians and their "promises" will do the job.

[muldoon]

isn't that what he's supposed to do? Listen to the people? Hello??!!

or would you rather have the same ole president catering to business instead?

The MAJOR thing Donald has done in his life (outside of having a massive head start financially through family) - is exploit government (be it through favorable bankruptcy laws, geo-hiding of assets. Buying connections within government)

It's one thing to listen - but what has he ever done to this point that would indicate that he's now ready to reign in the very people that he's one of.

He speaks in vague terms of someone who is educated in business and nothing else. The idea of using troops to guard oil fields (who actually owns these again? If it's Exxon, then troops are guarding Exxon? if it's us - then we're nationalizing oil?)

Saying things like he'd bomb the oil fields, or build a wall (and get "them to pay for it") rings great with people like you who only want to hear simple answers to complex questions.

A great example is the other thread where Bwest talked about the issue of Israel having the ability to destroy the entire world if they feel threatened. These are complex issues. These can't be solved by throwing money at it or firing someone on a tv show.

Trump actually had a legitimate shot if he didn't expose himself early on as such a lightweight outside of the business realm.

You want someone who might not understand, but surrounds himself with smart people who do? You know what you get? You get GW in the corner coloring while the Cheney Cabal goes to town. Or you get Reagan consulting his astrologer while Caspar Weinberger/Ollie North set up a paramilitary operation acting illegally on our behalf.

Donald made his billions off the very system that ****** over workers here - but he's just the guy to fix it.

Classic politician move. Help drive the car into the lake, then say they have the best man to rescue the car.

[stevenash]

problem is the govt is made up mostly of lawyers..the people trying to suck money out of everyone

we need doctors, businessmen, fukkin top of the line historians, computer geniuses, etc etc

get the fukkin lawyers out

That's why we need Carly.
Greatest businesswoman ever

[DwightShrute]

That's why we need Carly.
Greatest businesswoman ever

I like her more and more everytime I hear her speak

[grease lightnin]

That's why we need Carly.
Greatest businesswoman ever

Hp board of directors didnt think so

[DwightShrute]

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[muldoon]

How is Carly better than Donald?

[brooks85]

since everyone knows your liberal-dick-riding-blame-republicans-for-everything-except-when-you-get-called-out-on-it-then-pretend-to-not-be-a-liberal-sheep shtick the obvious question YOU would have to answer first is what is your thoughts on her?

Hp board of directors didnt think so

just letting you know, from an intellectual stand point, you have said nothing with this comment. As matter of fact, from the point of view of someone who is intelligent, you look stupid posting or saying that in public. Just fyi.

[muldoon]

the obvious question YOU would have to answer first is what is your thoughts on her?

She said the stimulus was a failure and the answer is tax cuts. When presented with the fact about the 2/3 of it was tax cuts- she was stumped. Has said she wouldn't even engage russia or Iran. Another person who blames outsourcing on the rules (that she fought against changing when she was in industry). Wants a weaker EPA. Anti-abortion.

Anti-choice for women and pro-poison for the environment - that's close to enough for me personally. Up there with Trump blaming the system she fully enjoyed but now magically wants to rally everyone against.

Not sure of her other positions. Some think she's better than Trump - I merely asked why.

[brooks85]

She said the stimulus was a failure and the answer is tax cuts. When presented with the fact about the 2/3 of it was tax cuts- she was stumped. Has said she wouldn't even engage russia or Iran. Another person who blames outsourcing on the rules (that she fought against changing when she was in industry). Wants a weaker EPA. Anti-abortion.

Anti-choice for women and pro-poison for the environment - that's close to enough for me personally. Up there with Trump blaming the system she fully enjoyed but now magically wants to rally everyone against.

Not sure of her other positions. Some think she's better than Trump - I merely asked why.

I have no penetrating doubt, another useless vote focused on completely irrelevant issues. Thanks!

[muldoon]

I have no penetrating doubt, another useless vote focused on completely irrelevant issues. Thanks!

See, whether you agree or not, I gave my reasons.

As opposed to your useless input into countless threads. "See, that's why you're stupid".

You might as well get TrollMeTheMoney to build you a highfalutin fancy macro to post it for you.

[brooks85]

See, whether you agree or not, I gave my reasons.

As opposed to your useless input into countless threads. "See, that's why you're stupid".

You might as well get TrollMeTheMoney to build you a highfalutin fancy macro to post it for you.

I didn't say you didn't give your reasons but they are completely useless, I didn't say there were stupid reasons so don't get all pissy. I hope that is hard for you to hear, your vote affects me and stupid shit like women's rights and the environment are not on the concern list right now if you're paying attention at all. As a matter of fact, and consider this enlightenment, the fact those are even your "reasons" tells me you are paying attention to the propaganda.


And funny you talk about poisoning the environment, I'd use the EPA is calling joke but they're busy right now...

[muldoon]

I hope that is hard for you to hear, your vote affects me and stupid shit like women's rights and the environment are not on the concern list right now

For you.

[brooks85]

For you.

yep, my concerns and how to fix them are just MINE...


http://www.usdebtclock.org/





but yeah, gay rights, women's rights, the environment man! That is what you should be focused on... Again, you'll have to excuse me for calling you a sheep if those are your concerns because that is EXACTLY why they are your concerns; mission accomplished for dems because you are clearly distracted.


I'm more focused on not being Act 2 of Rome, you should be too so one day maybe you can actually be justified in being concerned about women's rights and the environment but that day is far away. We have much bigger problems to be focused on, I would hope you see that.

[muldoon]

yep, my concerns and how to fix them are just MINE...

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

but yeah, gay rights, women's rights, the environment man! That is what you should be focused on... Again, you'll have to excuse me for calling you a sheep if those are your concerns because that is EXACTLY why those are your concerns. They clearly have you distracted.

No need to excuse you. You're entitled to throw out insults and pretend like you have a monopoly on what is or isn't important (and how to fix it). The fact that you feel the need to tell me what I should or shouldn't focus on however, shows what kind of flawed personality you bring to the table.

I'm plenty interested in opposing views. There's some posters who will actually engage in debate and present opinions that I may not agree with, but make it worth reading up on.

You however, are not. You're focused on the impending collapse (maybe rightfully so), and consider anyone else who isn't, to be stupid or a sheep or ill informed. You live in the perpetual state of prepper-porn where we're always on the verge of collapse - be it the dollar, Jade Helm or whatever conspiracy pushes the blood south of the border.

Not much room for debate with your kind.

[brooks85]

No need to excuse you. You're entitled to throw out insults and pretend like you have a monopoly on what is or isn't important (and how to fix it). The fact that you feel the need to tell me what I should or shouldn't focus on however, shows what kind of flawed personality you bring to the table.

I'm plenty interested in opposing views. There's some posters who will actually engage in debate and present opinions that I may not agree with, but make it worth reading up on.

You however, are not. You're focused on the impending collapse (maybe rightfully so), and consider anyone else who isn't, to be stupid or a sheep or ill informed. You live in the perpetual state of prepper-porn where we're always on the verge of collapse - be it the dollar, Jade Helm or whatever conspiracy pushes the blood south of the border.

Not much room for debate with your kind.

sure isn't, math rules the day. Stuff is universal, did you know that? I'd say since humans are flawed, math is certainly a good way to judge things.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

and you support a party that makes it worse every chance they get* but put up with it because makes ya feel good. Well, the BS doesn't work with me so pretend to ride your high horse when in reality I'm just watching you from afar in your herd sheepy.


*
http://www2.epa.gov/cleanpowerplan/c...g-power-plants

[grease lightnin]

since everyone knows your liberal-dick-riding-blame-republicans-for-everything-except-when-you-get-called-out-on-it-then-pretend-to-not-be-a-liberal-sheep shtick the obvious question YOU would have to answer first is what is your thoughts on her?






just letting you know, from an intellectual stand point, you have said nothing with this comment. As matter of fact, from the point of view of someone who is intelligent, you look stupid posting or saying that in public. Just fyi.

I was standing in line getting my lunch. Read this article, pal.

http://www.cnet.com/news/hps-carly-fiorina-era-is-finally-over-good-riddance/

[grease lightnin]

He's not as bad as Icahn, but whether or not he was a liar is a judgement call.
He did insider trade, but got away with it because he spent millions on lawyers
who did a good job defending him. I remember him in the 90's as a brash pumper
with a temper and a talent for getting people excited when I'm sure all he was thinking
of was dumping his stock on the gullible.
Maybe pump and dump is not lying, but I don't think he's in any position to criticize
other people because the origin of his wealth is only in luck and pump/dump.
The primary way he made his money was by exaggerating the value of Broadcast.com,
which at the time of sale only had 22 million in revenues and was losing 16 million a year,
but Yahoo bought them in stock for 5.7 billion. Of course he knew it all was baloney,
all the times he talked up his Broadcast.com, and tried to get people to buy it was
nothing but a ploy to write stock and dump it on the public.
Yahoo stock lost 90% of its value in the dot com crash.

Cuban was cleared of insider trading charges.

As far as pump and dump, and selling broadcast.com--part of the role of a senior executive is to promote their company to wall street and the press. So to say he was unethical because he promoted his company is silly. And as far as the sale to yahoo, any company in ultra growth mode sells for high multiples, especially during that era, but even today the same rings true. Nothing is wrong with the deal Cuban made with yahoo--sure yahoo shit the bed with that business, but they have done that with several businesses. Broadcast.com was an innovator in streaming video online. Think that's a valuable technology? I do.

[Snowball]

grease, not a big deal .. just saying he shouldn't be throwing stones..
i really don't care.. just thinking back.

[grease lightnin]

Yeah youre right its not a big deal. But while the donald is a billionaire i would have a hard time getting behind, I would probably vote for Cuban.

[rkelly110]

isn't that what he's supposed to do? Listen to the people? Hello??!!

or would you rather have the same ole president catering to business instead?

You act as if there's some magical plan these seasoned politicians have. A secret or something? Is there a book? A secret handshake? Well, how's that working? The establishment wants suckers to believe that in order to be a great president you need to be in politics for years. Again, how's that been working?

The obstruct and blame Obama presidency has obviously created a new generation of blamers and submissives.

Give me a leader that is smart enough get things done when things change. Someone who appoints the right people to help do the job. That is what great leaders do. Because guess what .... things will change. They always do.

Tump is that guy. I doubt enough Americans are smart enough to vote for him. They rather keep pretending to believe the same politicians and their "promises" will do the job.

You like him, I get that. I don't want a hot head with his finger on the button. I can't get any simpler.

[Andy117]

That's why we need Carly.
Greatest businesswoman ever

In what way? She didn't exactly do a great job with HP.

[Andy117]

yep, my concerns and how to fix them are just MINE...


http://www.usdebtclock.org/





but yeah, gay rights, women's rights, the environment man! That is what you should be focused on... Again, you'll have to excuse me for calling you a sheep if those are your concerns because that is EXACTLY why they are your concerns; mission accomplished for dems because you are clearly distracted.


I'm more focused on not being Act 2 of Rome, you should be too so one day maybe you can actually be justified in being concerned about women's rights and the environment but that day is far away. We have much bigger problems to be focused on, I would hope you see that.

Republicans run against gay rights, abortion etc at least as much as Dems talk about it. How many questions from that debate the other night had anything to do with the economy?

[brooks85]

Republicans run against gay rights, abortion etc at least as much as Dems talk about it. How many questions from that debate the other night had anything to do with the economy?

yes, they run against what the Dems are talking about expanding, funding and overall legislating lol

[brooks85]

sure isn't, math rules the day. Stuff is universal, did you know that? I'd say since humans are flawed, math is certainly a good way to judge things.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

and you support a party that makes it worse every chance they get* but put up with it because makes ya feel good. Well, the BS doesn't work with me so pretend to ride your high horse when in reality I'm just watching you from afar in your herd sheepy.


*
http://www2.epa.gov/cleanpowerplan/c...g-power-plants

obviously hit the nail on the head for who muldoon is, might as well have a vagina muldoon since you don't use math in any way to make your vote. Going to be funny watching you try to cover your tracks but the fact is you have already admitted your lack of intelligence but you just are not smart enough to realize it; I did though.

Anti-choice for women and pro-poison for the environment - that's close to enough for me personally.Up there with Trump blaming the system she fully enjoyed but now magically wants to rally everyone against.

.

have fun being apart of the problem, big thanks.

[KKoz9]

I remember him. He was an AudioNet executive, they changed their name to Broadcast.com and right at the
wildest time of the internet madness they IPO'd and went up tons. Cuban pumped them up like crazy.
Yahoo used their own inflated stock to overpay for Broadcast.com - making Cuban just about a billionaire
on Yahoo stock. He hung on as much as he had to according to the law but weaseled out right before the
dot com crash. He also did some hedging but couldn't hedge against Yahoo so hedged other internet momo stocks.
Lost his hedge 100% and sold all the Yahoo stock near the top - then everyone holding those stocks got hammered.
Years later on some other issue he was charged criminally for insider trading.

Nice story but not accurate, and the difference in broadcast.com and other .com madness companies is that broadcast.com actually involved a groundbreaking technology and not just an unproven idea.

[rkelly110]

obviously hit the nail on the head for who muldoon is, might as well have a vagina muldoon since you don't use math in any way to make your vote. Going to be funny watching you try to cover your tracks but the fact is you have already admitted your lack of intelligence but you just are not smart enough to realize it; I did though.




have fun being apart of the problem, big thanks.

The world is round.

[brooks85]

The world is round.

finally decided to pick up a science book huh?


I know you hate using it but you're going to need one of these

[rkelly110]

Holy hell, you agree with me? I figured you'd say the world is flat. As far as the calculator, I've already proved my point.

[brooks85]

Holy hell, you agree with me?".

try being correct more often! Amazing huh?




"I figured you'd say the world is flat. As far as the calculator, I've already proved my point"

yes you have made it very CLEAR over 1000s of posts you do not use one in your decision making. You passed your bad habits down to your son muldoon too.

[brooks85]

Republicans run against gay rights, abortion etc at least as much as Dems talk about it. How many questions from that debate the other night had anything to do with the economy?

yes, they run against what the Dems are talking about expanding, funding and overall legislating lol

now sit down sheepy, and stop with your pathetic attempt to be neutral, unbiased or even come off slightly intelligent.

"Republicans run against gay rights, abortion etc at least as much as Dems talk about it"

lol... didn't think that one through before you typed it huh?

[grease lightnin]

Cuban says he would beat Hillary and would crush Trump if he ran for POTUS.

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/09/14/mark-cuban-i-could-beat-trump-and-clinton.html

[Snowball]

Cuban says he would beat Hillary and would crush Trump if he ran for POTUS.

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/09/14/mark-...d-clinton.html

this is really how low America has sunk..
a guy who did nothing but issue stock and sell it to Yahoo at the top
then buy an NBA team with his windfall, and a guy who inherited a real estate fortune.

why can't we have true statesmen ?
so the big switch is from lawyers to stock marketeers ?
no thanks.

[brooks85]

brilliant, the more self-made money in the race the better off this country would be.

Switch from lawyers to stock marketeers would be incredibly great for this country. Disconcerting other people can't see this, shows how backwards their logic is if they truly think status quo is what we need... lol