The Phillies might very well be the worst MLB team in 40 years

[stevenash]

Quite possibly the worst baseball team in 40 years.

Currently 22 and 45 which is a .328 winning percentage, and if you multiply 162 (game season) by .328 (Philly won/loss percentage) you get 53.

Philly is on a pace to win 53 games, and lose 109.

The only other team I can find in the last 40 years that was 2015 Philly kind of bad was:

2003 Detroit Tigers
43 and 119 - Dave Dombrowski's first full season as GM (welcome to the show Dave) and Alan Trammell was the skipper.

If you looked at just the offense, you would say to yourself, "they had a few sticks, how's they lose 119?"

Dmitri Young had a solid season .297/29/85, Carlos Pena hit 18 out, Craig Monroe hit 23 out, Eric Munson hit 18.

The pitching wasn't just bad, it was a special kind of bad.
The save leader had 5 (Mears) Guess who was second with three saves? Fernando Rodney.

The staff was anchored by 9 and 21 Mike Maroth, and 6 and 19 Jeremy Bonderman.

I've just looked at all the 100 + loss teams in the past 40 years.
Almost all of them weren't as bad as this Philly team.

2004 Arizona Diamondbacks were 51 and 111, but they had Hall of Fame Randy Johnson and Brandon Webb was actually a pretty good starter as well.
Casey Fossum was God awful though.

Shea Hillenbrand hit .310 with 15 bombs, Steve Finley had some game, so did Lu-Gonz, Chad Tracy was more than dependable.

1988 Braves were were 54 and 106, but they had Dale Murphy, out the door on his way out Ken Griffey, Ron Gant and pitchers Mahler and 7 and 17 22 year old Tom Glavine. I think that pretty much the last season the Braves really sucked ass.

1982 Twins were 60 and 102 with 4 regulars in the lineup that hit 20 or more homeruns. (Hrbek, Gary Gaetti, Gary Ward and Tom Brunansky).
*side note, I saw Brunansky live and in color at Fenway make that sliding catch for the Red Sox to clinch the division in 1990.

The only team that really rivals this years Phillies in all out suckness is the 1988 Baltimore Orioles.

Inventors of the term auto-fade.
Started out losing their first 21 games, pretty much 0 for April.
They had the two Ripkens, Eddie Murray, Mike Boddiker and still managed to lost 21 straight.

I still say, looking at the entire structure of your 2015 Philadelphia Phillies that they are the kings of inept.

Revere is the best they got for average, look at the power numbers, non-existent.
What good is all those swipes if nobody can knock you home.
Look at the entire team power numbers.
Chase Utley not too long ago was an elite 2B, look how far he's fallen.

NAME	GP	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	BB	SO	SB	BA	OBP
Ben Revere	65	257	31	71	10	6	0	16	13	29	16	0.276	0.314
Maikel Franco	31	121	17	33	7	1	7	18	6	18	1	0.273	0.313
Jeff Francoeur	54	144	13	38	9	1	4	21	7	26	0	0.264	0.294
Freddy Galvis	60	220	24	58	4	1	2	16	12	36	5	0.264	0.308
Andres Blanco	39	50	3	13	6	0	1	3	3	8	0	0.26	0.315
Odubel Herrera	61	208	19	52	14	2	2	17	9	57	7	0.25	0.283
Grady Sizemore	39	98	4	24	5	0	0	6	6	23	0	0.245	0.288
Cameron Rupp	23	71	3	17	4	1	0	4	8	22	0	0.239	0.313
Darin Ruf	43	102	9	24	6	0	3	10	6	25	0	0.235	0.279
Carlos Ruiz	47	156	11	36	6	0	0	11	15	24	0	0.231	0.302
Ryan Howard	61	222	21	51	15	1	11	28	11	69	0	0.23	0.271
Cody Asche	47	168	9	38	7	1	2	6	9	44	0	0.226	0.264
Cesar Hernandez	54	109	16	24	6	0	1	9	17	21	3	0.22	0.328
Chase Utley	62	206	18	38	7	1	4	25	21	30	3	0.184	0.263

Take away Hamels, and look at your rotation.

Don't let Harang's numbers fool you, those numbers are skewed when he was pitching out of his cleats in April, he has returned to suckness too

NAME	GS	W	L	IP	HR	BB	SO	K/9	WHIP	ERA
Cole Hamels	14	5	5	94.1	11	31	103	9.83	1.11	2.96
Aaron Harang	14	4	8	89	9	24	61	6.17	1.1	3.24
Jerome Williams	14	3	7	70	14	19	41	5.27	1.7	6.43
Sean O'Sullivan	9	1	5	51.1	9	15	20	3.51	1.46	5.08

I really think this is the worst baseball team in 40 years

[t-wizzle]

I completely agree when you factor in the payroll.

Total incompetence.

[jjgold]

and there are some guys making big money

A minor league team can beat them

[Brock Landers]

That Detroit team in 2003 was hilarious in how awful they were

There was a 1996 team also that was just as bad if I remember correctly

[htown1]

that lineup on paper really doesn't look that bad, you would think they would be able to put up more runs. Definitely not an all AAA lineup like some teams field when they are tanking. Also I'm surprised you forgot to include the 2013 Astros playing there first year in the AL. They lost something like 15 straight to end the year they were as bad as it gets.

[Big Bear]

Nash just jinxed the Orioles today i'm afraid.

[Mr KLC]

Pirates are possibly interested in trading for Revere:

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/07/12/pirates-interested-in-ben-revere-jeff-francoeur/related/

[Big Bear]

[lakerboy]

Tough times for the city.

Sixers and Phillies godawful. Flyers almost the same. Eagles average.

[seaborneq]

Any time the manager cries and quits you know its historically bad.

[pavyracer]

They should be relegated to AAA next season and the AAA champion of this year should take their spot.

[R.P. McMurphy]

They are awful but remember Stros few years back were beyond bad and won under 60 games twice! Nice to see them and Kc another awful team forever finally good again.

[R.P. McMurphy]

LB I'm not sold on Iggles either so we might be adding them soon to the Philly nightmare lol. Chip making some gambles to make his "system" work. I'm not buying until I see results though and QB a big concern there. Chip gets a lot of hype but let's not forget his system is really pussified and never worked in college either vs tougher teams. Verdict still out on this guy for awhile....

[unluckysob]

braves promise to be a very good team by the time they move to new stadium in 2017.

[Covy]

Phillies will be in a rut for a few years. Several young arms will debut in next year or two. They are weaker on position player side but with the right trades they'll be okay there

[TheMoneyShot]

Detroit Tigers of 2003. Landers spoke earlier.

I remember that season... wow. That was one sick year.

[klemopixx]

Trade Hamels for crying out loud already! Every team is trying to get the Phils to pay half his salary. 5yrs/100 mil is what your average top pitcher makes now. Try getting Price next year for that, he'll get 150M easy. Why is Rueben Amaro still the GM?

[pavyracer]

They are playing better with new coach. They could push for a playoff spot if Mets keep losing. A few trades before deadline and this team could explode to the top.