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  • jjgold
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    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #1
    Are the Cavs better without Irving?
    Reggie Miller nailed it before the game saying the Cavaliers a much better defense of team without him which leads to more victories

    It also seems they move the ball much better without him
  • Big Bear
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    • 11-01-11
    • 43253

    #2
    ESPN says Lebron is like a father figure to Irving.
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    • lakerboy
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      • 04-02-09
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      #3
      Now cavs don't need love or Irving.
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      • Big Bear
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        • 11-01-11
        • 43253

        #4
        Originally posted by lakerboy
        Now cavs don't need love or Irving.
        give us another fade Laker
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        • lakerboy
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          • 04-02-09
          • 94379

          #5
          Originally posted by Big Bear
          give us another fade Laker
          Cavs - whatever game 3.
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          • LordVodka
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            • 08-17-09
            • 5206

            #6
            Did they give an in-depth explanation. I want to know why Irving is not adding to the defense.
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            • KiDBaZkiT
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              • 10-20-09
              • 14962

              #7
              Dellavadova highly underrated. Very high basketball I.Q. and much more talented than people think.
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              • TheMoneyShot
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                • 02-14-07
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                #8
                Ask that question when they play Golden State
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                • Big Bear
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                  • 11-01-11
                  • 43253

                  #9
                  yeah foreal this series is over

                  Hawks were a fraud all season and Lebron dont even play hard til the playoffs

                  Lets hope they hurry up and end this boring series so we can get to the Warriors vs Cavs and maybe see a competitive basketball game for once
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                  • Snowball
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                    • 11-15-09
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                    Ask that question when they play Golden State
                    They will make Golden State look like Atlanta.
                    Lebron is getting the first ever banner for Cleveland
                    and there's not a man alive who can stop him.
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                    • jjgold
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                      • 07-20-05
                      • 388179

                      #11
                      Kyrie is a tremendous offense of player and many think they need them when they play Golden State because I need more offense of firepower but I'm telling you a little darn good without hin
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                      • shaunovery
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                        • 11-15-07
                        • 18143

                        #12
                        Atlanta been awful beyond the arc

                        Gsw won't be as bad
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                        • shaunovery
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                          • 11-15-07
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                          #13
                          Lebron wired

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                          • jjgold
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                            • 07-20-05
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                            #14
                            Jesus...guy is the head coach too

                            good video
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                            • jtoler
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                              • 12-17-13
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by KiDBaZkiT
                              Dellavadova highly underrated. Very high basketball I.Q. and much more talented than people think.
                              Just no. About 30 guys in D-league wondering how is he on a roster and they arnt.
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                              • jtoler
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                                • 12-17-13
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by jjgold
                                Jesus...guy is the head coach too

                                good video
                                Prob could make guy the first player-coach we've seen in awhile.
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                                • jtoler
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                                  • 12-17-13
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Snowball
                                  They will make Golden State look like Atlanta.
                                  .
                                  Not sure if serious.
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                                  • STAX
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 11-01-13
                                    • 3718

                                    #18
                                    Cavs are not better without a healthy Kyrie. We are, however, a way better defensive team without Love. Tristan Thompson is a defensive star... look at what he has done on Paul Millsap. Millsap is 5 for 19 for 17 points, 1 block, and 12 total rebounds in the 2 games. Thompson is 7 for 13 for 21 points, he has 10 OFFENSIVE rebounds (26 total) and 4 blocks in the 2 games. This is why Cleveland has dominated. Cant wait for the matchup of him vrs Draymond Green.
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                                    • jjgold
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                                      • 07-20-05
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                                      #19
                                      Thompson is a stud..no idea how Love could ever play again in Cleve
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                                      • jtoler
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                                        • 12-17-13
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by STAX
                                        Cavs are not better without a healthy Kyrie. We are, however, a way better defensive team without Love. Tristan Thompson is a defensive star... look at what he has done on Paul Millsap. Millsap is 5 for 19 for 17 points, 1 block, and 12 total rebounds in the 2 games. Thompson is 7 for 13 for 21 points, he has 10 OFFENSIVE rebounds (26 total) and 4 blocks in the 2 games. This is why Cleveland has dominated. Cant wait for the matchup of him vrs Draymond Green.
                                        Draymond will draw him out and drive, how is Thompson gonna deal with that.
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                                        • Big Bear
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                                          • 11-01-11
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by jjgold
                                          Reggie Miller nailed it before the game saying the Cavaliers a much better defense of team without him which leads to more victories

                                          It also seems they move the ball much better without him
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                                          • jjgold
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                                            • 07-20-05
                                            • 388179

                                            #22
                                            We will find out soon.....so far they have been
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                                            • Big Bear
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                                              • 11-01-11
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by jjgold
                                              We will find out soon.....so far they have been
                                              r u still making a $1,500 bet on the Warriors?

                                              spoke with Tatddy last night he said he is nervous about game 2
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                                              • jtoler
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                                                • 12-17-13
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                                                #24
                                                Have said all along Delldedova sucks, watch how bad he plays Sunday, turnovers, bricks, Curry lighting him up.
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                                                • jjgold
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                                                  • 07-20-05
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                                                  #25
                                                  Jolted I think you're right I think the games going to be an embarrassment
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                                                  • jtoler
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                                                    • 12-17-13
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                                    Jolted I think you're right I think the games going to be an embarrassment
                                                    It's jtoler, proofread before pressing send, type jtoler, make sure its correct, until your phone shows "saved". You'll wanna do that so when you're pming me for winners daily bud. Once you see saved I'm with you for life JJ. smile.
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                                                    • jjgold
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                                                      • 07-20-05
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                                                      #27
                                                      well game over

                                                      They are better without him..
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                                                      • TheMartian
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                                                        • 02-05-14
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                                                        #28
                                                        Yup............
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                                                        • The Kraken
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                                                          • 12-25-11
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                                                          #29
                                                          Any team best when Lebron runs the offense
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                                                          • jjgold
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                                                            • 07-20-05
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                                                            #30
                                                            Irving must make 15 million a year too

                                                            I guess he just does not play defense and dribbles too much
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                                                            • MoMoneyMoVaughn
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                                                              • 05-08-14
                                                              • 14988

                                                              #31
                                                              One of the problems with Irving, and don't get me wrong the guy is a great player, is that a lot of his offense appears to come from isolations and he is not nearly as proficient a playmaker as lebron. A team can have a hard time trying to survive with two or more isolation guys using a ton of possessions. Sometimes one or both guys are hot and it looks good, but some nights they are going to collectively hit under 35% of their shots. The reason the Cavs won last night was solid defense and doing a slightly better job than the warriors not turning the ball over.

                                                              Dellavadova played very good defense on Curry from what I saw. He is quick enough to stay with him on the dribble and by preventing the guy from taking wide open threes we see, as with many shooters, how tough it can be to make contested threes in this league.
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                                                              • MoMoneyMoVaughn
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                                                                • 05-08-14
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                Irving must make 15 million a year too

                                                                I guess he just does not play defense and dribbles too much
                                                                Making 7 million this year which is a pretty good deal for the Cavs. Anderson Varejao made more.

                                                                On a side note, they have a 10 million team option on Brenday Haywood next season

                                                                What a joke.
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                                                                • jjgold
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                                                                  • 07-20-05
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by MoMoneyMoVaughn
                                                                  Making 7 million this year which is a pretty good deal for the Cavs. Anderson Varejao made more.

                                                                  On a side note, they have a 10 million team option on Brenday Haywood next season

                                                                  What a joke.
                                                                  7 million??

                                                                  When is his contract up?? Its a steal but you can never give this guy a max deal based on Injuries
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                                                                  • Pikachu
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                                                                    • 02-23-13
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    They should trade that Haywood expiring contract for a good player. Can't rely on Love and Irving. They are too fragile. I think Love and Irving have been injured every year.

                                                                    Originally posted by MoMoneyMoVaughn
                                                                    Making 7 million this year which is a pretty good deal for the Cavs. Anderson Varejao made more.

                                                                    On a side note, they have a 10 million team option on Brenday Haywood next season

                                                                    What a joke.
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                                                                    • MoMoneyMoVaughn
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                                                                      • 05-08-14
                                                                      • 14988

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                      7 million??

                                                                      When is his contract up?? Its a steal but you can never give this guy a max deal based on Injuries
                                                                      5 Year $90 million extension that comes into effect next season. Still a ton of money of money for a 23 year old who already has a history of lower body injuries that could limit his upside.
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