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  • tony_come
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    • 03-31-10
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    #36
    Originally posted by Vegas39
    Settle don't Tony don't blow it out of proportion
    Vegan i see what you did there
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    • Capybara
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      #37
      The sad part about this is that every single team is pulling shit left and right, but nobody cares. The Pats, on the other hand, everyone has a hard-on to catch doing shit. The idea that the Pats are some kind of dirty cheaters while everyone else is squeaky clean is a joke.

      Everyone was recording defensive signals, just not from the sideline. Everyone is messing with the ball, their equipment, the field, the noise. But doesn't matter cuz Pats are the big cheaters.

      Gimme a break. That's fine, Pats will take the punches and get up and keep winning divisions and playoff games.
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      • MoneyLineDawg
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        #38
        Pats are so arrogant they think the rules don't apply to them...or they're really bad at cheatng they've been caught in 2 big controversies now
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        • EaglesPhan36
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          #39
          Originally posted by Capybara
          The sad part about this is that every single team is pulling shit left and right, but nobody cares. The Pats, on the other hand, everyone has a hard-on to catch doing shit. The idea that the Pats are some kind of dirty cheaters while everyone else is squeaky clean is a joke.

          Everyone was recording defensive signals, just not from the sideline. Everyone is messing with the ball, their equipment, the field, the noise. But doesn't matter cuz Pats are the big cheaters.

          Gimme a break. That's fine, Pats will take the punches and get up and keep winning divisions and playoff games.
          That's the whole reason people are pissed. If it was the Rams, no one would care. Guys on DFW sports talk down here were hilarious talking about it. Honestly don't give a fukk. Maybe it gives you a slight advantage in ball security or grip for a QB, but bottom line is you still have to make plays and your defense still has to make stops.
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          • jjgold
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            • 07-20-05
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            #40
            Brady best of all times

            Deal with it
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            • d2bets
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              #41
              Originally posted by t-wizzle
              I think the NFL has a tough time sending down any real hard punishment on the Patriots here.
              Patriots will get a monetary slap on wrist.

              But Brady is going to get suspended. Bet on it. My guess would be 4 games. The conclusion was that he was generally aware of the deflation. IN other words, he was the instigator. That he didn't personally stick the needle is irrelevant. He is going to be held responsible. Jimmy Garoppolo will get a chance to see what he can do. At this point, I bet that guy is pretty good. Nobody really knows since he;s been buried, but I have a hunch he is one of the best backup QB's.
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              • d2bets
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                #42
                Originally posted by jjgold
                Brady best of all times

                Deal with it
                Yeah, but he's still a whiny cheating bitch and he's going to get suspended.
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                • TheMoneyShot
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                  #43
                  All I have to say is... a 243 page report?

                  Get the fuk out of here.
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                  • itchypickle
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                    • 11-05-09
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                    #44
                    We all knew it. NFL played the public like a fiddle by waiting for so long after Ravens and Colts games and here we are, Draft over, nobody is paying ,much attention to it so the story goes away before camp opens up again. Business as usual in New England.
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                    • TheMoneyShot
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                      #45
                      Originally posted by d2bets
                      Patriots will get a monetary slap on wrist.

                      But Brady is going to get suspended. Bet on it. My guess would be 4 games. The conclusion was that he was generally aware of the deflation. IN other words, he was the instigator. That he didn't personally stick the needle is irrelevant. He is going to be held responsible. Jimmy Garoppolo will get a chance to see what he can do. At this point, I bet that guy is pretty good. Nobody really knows since he;s been buried, but I have a hunch he is one of the best backup QB's.
                      Going a little rough on Brady.

                      He'll be fined a set amount. No game suspension.
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                      • d2bets
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                        #46
                        Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                        Going a little rough on Brady.

                        He'll be fined a set amount. No game suspension.
                        Wanna bet on that?
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                        • d2bets
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                          #47
                          Brady is the sole important person heavily implicated (other than a couple of ballboys) in a long, detailed, expensive report. No way he skates.

                          My guesses:
                          Brady - 4 games plus $250,000
                          Pats - $500,000 plus lose a 6th rounder
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                          • Vegas39
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                            #48
                            Think he gets 2 games and after appeal ends up a one game suspension and a hefty fine
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                            • Scorpion
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                              #49
                              Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
                              Pats are who we thought they were

                              BAU
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                              • TheMoneyShot
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                                #50
                                Originally posted by d2bets

                                Wanna bet on that?
                                Originally posted by d2bets
                                Brady is the sole important person heavily implicated (other than a couple of ballboys) in a long, detailed, expensive report. No way he skates.

                                My guesses:
                                Brady - 4 games plus $250,000
                                Pats - $500,000 plus lose a 6th rounder
                                No... I don't want to bet on that. Because I don't want to lose.

                                I've been busy all day.... didn't turn on ESPN... didn't hear the extent of the outcome at all. Just read that there was a 243 page document that claims... probable cause.

                                My take is this... I don't know what text messages Brady sent... I don't know who is officially in charge of the footballs?

                                1. All I know is... It's Brady's first offense I think in the NFL. They should go light on him.

                                2. Regardless of what Brady said or told through text... to do... doesn't mean you go and do it. (I didn't even read any of the texts.) Brady didn't do it himself. It's like saying hey... go kill this dude for me. You wouldn't go and do it. So, even if Brady said hey... keep these footballs and a specific pressure... doesn't mean the kid... or equipment person has to obey. It's really on his own shoulders.

                                There's nothing that indicates Brady hurt the NFL or mislead them. I'm just saying.... it's a coin flip. I don't think Brady should be suspended for this. More than likely a large fine. But again.... I could be wrong.
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                                • opie1988
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                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by jtoler
                                  I wouldnt assume theyve only cheated twice.
                                  Uhhhh.....really?

                                  No shit.

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                                  • opie1988
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                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                    No... I don't want to bet on that. Because I don't want to lose.

                                    I've been busy all day.... didn't turn on ESPN... didn't hear the extent of the outcome at all. Just read that there was a 243 page document that claims... probable cause.

                                    My take is this... I don't know what text messages Brady sent... I don't know who is officially in charge of the footballs?

                                    1. All I know is... It's Brady's first offense I think in the NFL. They should go light on him.

                                    2. Regardless of what Brady said or told through text... to do... doesn't mean you go and do it. (I didn't even read any of the texts.) Brady didn't do it himself. It's like saying hey... go kill this dude for me. You wouldn't go and do it. So, even if Brady said hey... keep these footballs and a specific pressure... doesn't mean the kid... or equipment person has to obey. It's really on his own shoulders.

                                    There's nothing that indicates Brady hurt the NFL or mislead them. I'm just saying.... it's a coin flip. I don't think Brady should be suspended for this. More than likely a large fine. But again.... I could be wrong.
                                    LOL.

                                    Tell you what....go tell some dude to kill someone. And then if they actually DO IT....let's see how "lightly" they go on you.

                                    It's Tom fukkin Brady....if he tells some lowly equipment manager to do something....the motherfukker is damn sure going to do it.

                                    Let's get real.
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                                    • Ghenghis Kahn
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                                      #53
                                      i'm gonna say this one more time, if sean payton got suspended for a year so should billidick. fukk this double standard bullshit.
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                                      • jjgold
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                                        #54
                                        Brady is clear and laughing all the way to the bank
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                                        • d2bets
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                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                          No... I don't want to bet on that. Because I don't want to lose.

                                          I've been busy all day.... didn't turn on ESPN... didn't hear the extent of the outcome at all. Just read that there was a 243 page document that claims... probable cause.

                                          My take is this... I don't know what text messages Brady sent... I don't know who is officially in charge of the footballs?

                                          1. All I know is... It's Brady's first offense I think in the NFL. They should go light on him.

                                          2. Regardless of what Brady said or told through text... to do... doesn't mean you go and do it. (I didn't even read any of the texts.) Brady didn't do it himself. It's like saying hey... go kill this dude for me. You wouldn't go and do it. So, even if Brady said hey... keep these footballs and a specific pressure... doesn't mean the kid... or equipment person has to obey. It's really on his own shoulders.

                                          There's nothing that indicates Brady hurt the NFL or mislead them. I'm just saying.... it's a coin flip. I don't think Brady should be suspended for this. More than likely a large fine. But again.... I could be wrong.
                                          Let me guess....you are not a lawyer.
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                                          • Ghenghis Kahn
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                                            #56
                                            i would also like another fukking speech from that little midget robert kraft about how they're the fukking victims!!!
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                                            • ramones951
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                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by jtoler
                                              I wouldnt assume theyve only cheated twice.
                                              Woooooshhhhh......
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                                              • Scorpion
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                                                #58
                                                brady has lost his oomph
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                                                • newguy
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                                                  #59
                                                  If this isn't multiple game suspensions and loss of at least a 1st rounder then the NFL is closer to the WWE than i really suspected. Really hope the NFL does the right thing here
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                                                  • slacker00
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                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by newguy
                                                    If this isn't multiple game suspensions and loss of at least a 1st rounder then the NFL is closer to the WWE than i really suspected. Really hope the NFL does the right thing here
                                                    NFL bent the rules to help the QB for decades. QBs even doctor their own footballs. It finally caught up to the NFL.
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                                                    • TheMoneyShot
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                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by opie1988

                                                      LOL.

                                                      Tell you what....go tell some dude to kill someone. And then if they actually DO IT....let's see how "lightly" they go on you.

                                                      It's Tom fukkin Brady....if he tells some lowly equipment manager to do something....the motherfukker is damn sure going to do it.

                                                      Let's get real.
                                                      Originally posted by d2bets

                                                      Let me guess....you are not a lawyer.
                                                      You guys are over analyzing this.

                                                      For one thing... Brady didn't have a motive. When you have someone go kill someone for you... that's a motive.

                                                      When you're sitting around fukking around with your friends.... and you say... fuk that guy... hey bro... go kill him for me... you mean one of your friends will say... um ok... right away for you man? No one is going to do that. I should of been a defense attorney.

                                                      There's nothing that Brady did to indicate a suspension. The NFL isn't going to hammer a future hall of famer.

                                                      If the NFL really wanted to hammer Brady... it would of been done within days of said EVENT. Why wait until the offseason?

                                                      It's humorous that the NFL wastes millions of dollars on an attorney to review 243 pages of dumb sh#$
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                                                      • opie1988
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                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                                        You guys are over analyzing this.

                                                        For one thing... Brady didn't have a motive. When you have someone go kill someone for you... that's a motive.

                                                        When you're sitting around fukking around with your friends.... and you say... fuk that guy... hey bro... go kill him for me... you mean one of your friends will say... um ok... right away for you man? No one is going to do that. I should of been a defense attorney.

                                                        There's nothing that Brady did to indicate a suspension. The NFL isn't going to hammer a future hall of famer.

                                                        If the NFL really wanted to hammer Brady... it would of been done within days of said EVENT. Why wait until the offseason?

                                                        It's humorous that the NFL wastes millions of dollars on an attorney to review 243 pages of dumb sh#$
                                                        Brady didn't have a motive?

                                                        He's said in multiple interviews he likes his footballs a little under inflated. That's no secret.

                                                        How would that not be his motive?
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                                                        • d2bets
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                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                                          You guys are over analyzing this.

                                                          For one thing... Brady didn't have a motive. When you have someone go kill someone for you... that's a motive.

                                                          When you're sitting around fukking around with your friends.... and you say... fuk that guy... hey bro... go kill him for me... you mean one of your friends will say... um ok... right away for you man? No one is going to do that. I should of been a defense attorney.

                                                          There's nothing that Brady did to indicate a suspension. The NFL isn't going to hammer a future hall of famer.

                                                          If the NFL really wanted to hammer Brady... it would of been done within days of said EVENT. Why wait until the offseason?

                                                          It's humorous that the NFL wastes millions of dollars on an attorney to review 243 pages of dumb sh#$
                                                          What do you mean he didn't have a motive? The texts and the history makes it clear that Brady likes playing with deflated balls and at least thinks he plays better with deflated balls. Isn't that a motive for wanting to play with deflated balls in the AFC Championship game?

                                                          So yeah, he had a motive. Doesn't seem like they can definitely link Brady demanding said deflation, but more probable than not is enough. It would be enough in a civil lawsuit type of scenario. He would be held liable. And so he will. I have no idea how they determine the number of games suspension, but I'd be shocked if he isn't suspended.
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                                                          • MoneyLineDawg
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                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                                                            i'm gonna say this one more time, if sean payton got suspended for a year so should billidick. fukk this double standard bullshit.
                                                            Agree with this...Belichik has already been fined personally for spygate

                                                            Witht he Sean Payton suspension, NFL set the precedent that ignorance is not an excuse for the head coach...therefore, repeat offender Bill Beli should be suspended as well
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                                                            • MoneyLineDawg
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                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                                              You guys are over analyzing this.

                                                              For one thing... Brady didn't have a motive. When you have someone go kill someone for you... that's a motive.

                                                              When you're sitting around fukking around with your friends.... and you say... fuk that guy... hey bro... go kill him for me... you mean one of your friends will say... um ok... right away for you man? No one is going to do that. I should of been a defense attorney.

                                                              There's nothing that Brady did to indicate a suspension. The NFL isn't going to hammer a future hall of famer.

                                                              If the NFL really wanted to hammer Brady... it would of been done within days of said EVENT. Why wait until the offseason?

                                                              It's humorous that the NFL wastes millions of dollars on an attorney to review 243 pages of dumb sh#$
                                                              Moneyshot very off base here....Don't know what to say except read up on this case more....Brady absolutely has a motive....read profootballtalk.com articles they have a lot on this
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                                                              • MoneyLineDawg
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                                                                #66
                                                                In the text messages, one of the Pats equipment fukks is referred to as the deflator in May of 2014....Makes you wonder how long this shit has been going on for
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                                                                • Ghenghis Kahn
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                                                                  #67
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                                                                  • GUMMO77
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                                                                    #68
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                                                                    • Mr KLC
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      Gronkowski on Deflategate....at least I think so

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                                                                      • BiTeMe UsAdOj
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                                                                        #70
                                                                        Agree with those that say Brady gets suspended (I'd guess 2 games when all is said and done after appeal).

                                                                        Make no mistake, in the ruling the NFL will cite his lack of cooperation in not handing over his email/texts as a major contributing cause of his suspension. He's an NFL employee; they conducted an investigation and he did not fully cooperate. Bottom line... along with all the other circumstantial evidence linking him to willful acts to try to gain a competitive advantage.

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