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  • BigDofBA
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    • 09-30-09
    • 19313

    #106
    Mayweather is what is he. He is the best "boxer" in a bad boxing era.

    People wanted to see a fight but that's not what Mayweather does. He boxes.

    People tuned in to see the unexpected like someone already said but that didn't happen.

    So you guys think Floyd is really done after one more fight in September?

    Why not go for 50-0?

    He said he was done but I'm not sure I believe that.
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    • teaserpleaser
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      • 08-14-08
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      #107
      we may never see another Floyd mayweather ....as nice as andre ward is there may never be another heel that Everybody wants to see lose or win but everybody wants to see. GGG is cool but nobody but hardcores are buzzing about him who knows who he is in general public.
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      • jtoler
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        • 12-17-13
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        #108
        Originally posted by marcoloco;23960347/
        He created himself to be not liked so everyone will pay to see him lose. Regardless of having more enemies then fans, he is getting paid and that is what he wants. Winning the fight is just the formality for the payday. His strategy is a house of cards, 1 loss in there and it n .
        He didnt create that, guys like you cteated it for him, he wanted to be loved. Ive seen all his fights except three, one of his early fights like his fourth or fifth fight after dominating an opponent he was boed because he outboxed the guy even though he still stopoed him. So coming from fighting for country in Olympics hes booed in own country fighting a foreignet, from then on he took the mantle of bad guy seeing it selks also. Hed win fights and stalk around ring with a scowl sometimes after that. Still hed show.he wanted the fans adoration after, hes spoken about this on different occassions.
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        • marcoloco
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          • 07-05-10
          • 3986

          #109
          Originally posted by jtoler
          He didnt create that, guys like you cteated it for him, he wanted to be loved. Ive seen all his fights except three, one of his early fights like his fourth or fifth fight after dominating an opponent he was boed because he outboxed the guy even though he still stopoed him. So coming from fighting for country in Olympics hes booed in own country fighting a foreignet, from then on he took the mantle of bad guy seeing it selks also. Hed win fights and stalk around ring with a scowl sometimes after that. Still hed show.he wanted the fans adoration after, hes spoken about this on different occassions.
          people love pacman but he has never made close to the amount of money floyd has. actions speak louder than words. he marketed himself to set up the big pay days.
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          • The Kraken
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            • 12-25-11
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            #110
            He's a marketing genius. His own promoter too. Guys probably saved nearly $100,000,000 in promoter fees over his career.
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            • jtoler
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              • 12-17-13
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              #111
              Originally posted by The Kraken
              He's a marketing genius. His own promoter too. Guys probably saved nearly $100,000,000 in promoter fees over his career.
              I think Mayweather Promotions more of a front started when he fought Oscar, still golden boy promoted fighters do that in big fights to try and cut out fees but its rare.
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              • CWD
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                • 01-22-12
                • 7665

                #112
                Originally posted by jtoler
                He didnt create that, guys like you cteated it for him, he wanted to be loved. Ive seen all his fights except three, one of his early fights like his fourth or fifth fight after dominating an opponent he was boed because he outboxed the guy even though he still stopoed him. So coming from fighting for country in Olympics hes booed in own country fighting a foreignet, from then on he took the mantle of bad guy seeing it selks also. Hed win fights and stalk around ring with a scowl sometimes after that. Still hed show.he wanted the fans adoration after, hes spoken about this on different occassions.


                these guys all want to create the persona of being a hated guy when they are not. the fab five all says they were hated when they were the most popular team and even were responsible for pretty much changing the way uniforms were worn. hated sports figures dont set trends like that. christian laettner says he was hated when he for the most part he really wasn't.

                this "im hated" shit is old IMO. i dont think people were paying $100 a pop for the ppv just to see him lose, maybe the pac fans were but thats it. ratio of mayweather fans to haters not what he or media wants people to think.
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                • jtoler
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                  • 12-17-13
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                  #113
                  Originally posted by CWD
                  these guys all want to create the persona of being a hated guy when they are not. the fab five all says they were hated when they were the most popular team and even were responsible for pretty much changing the way uniforms were worn. hated sports figures dont set trends like that. christian laettner says he was hated when he for the most part he really wasn't.

                  this "im hated" shit is old IMO. i dont think people were paying $100 a pop for the ppv just to see him lose, maybe the pac fans were but thats it. ratio of mayweather fans to haters not what he or media wants people to think.
                  Fab five got all kinds of hate mail, they didn't create it or want to be hated it was thrust upon them so they rebelled and ran with it.
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                  • Plaza23
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                    • 12-29-13
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                    #114
                    Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

                    Roy Jones was the same way. A very boring watch because he would beat everyone decisively.
                    Roy knocked people out and hurt his opponents. Dont even compare him to a guy like Mayweather who does not hurt anyone he gets in the ring with.

                    Roy had 61 wins in his career. 44 by knock out.

                    Floyd has 48 wins. 26 by knock out.
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                    • jjgold
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                      • 07-20-05
                      • 388179

                      #115
                      He has a personality that is easy not to like

                      He is not genuine and into himself and very very cheap

                      He is never friendly with people in Vegas and just not polished
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                      • CWD
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                        • 01-22-12
                        • 7665

                        #116
                        Originally posted by jtoler
                        Fab five got all kinds of hate mail, they didn't create it or want to be hated it was thrust upon them so they rebelled and ran with it.
                        all stars get hate mail. people LOVED the fab five whether or not they want to admit it or use it for motivation.
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                        • jtoler
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                          • 12-17-13
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                          #117
                          Originally posted by CWD
                          all stars get hate mail. people LOVED the fab five whether or not they want to admit it or use it for motivation.
                          Not true, these people were writing to the university telling them they will lose their monetarial support if they continued starting 5 black n-words, they also got death threats, nothing normal about that. These were 18 year old kids winning and making the university millions of dollars.
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                          • Smoke
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                            • 10-09-09
                            • 48111

                            #118
                            The sport died when tyson left
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                            • Kermit
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                              • 09-27-10
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                              #119
                              Someone on the radio broke down the fight and said that the fighters made Over $125,000 every second.
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                              • Plaza23
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                                • 12-29-13
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                                #120
                                Originally posted by jtoler
                                Not true, these people were writing to the university telling them they will lose their monetarial support if they continued starting 5 black n-words, they also got death threats, nothing normal about that. These were 18 year old kids winning and making the university millions of dollars.



                                Michigan had just won the national title in 1989 (2 yrs earlier) and had an entirely black team. And you are claiming the Fab 5 were hated? Stop claiming racism where it doesnt exist you penetrating retard.

                                You might have forgotten that UNLV was also around at that time too. Nobody gave a shit about the FAB 5 because they were black. That was normal.
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                                • jtoler
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                                  • 12-17-13
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                                  #121
                                  Originally posted by Plaza23
                                  Michigan had just won the national title in 1989 (2 yrs earlier) and had an entirely black team. And you are claiming the Fab 5 were hated? Stop claiming racism where it doesnt exist you penetrating retard.

                                  You might have forgotten that UNLV was also around at that time too. Nobody gave a shit about the FAB 5 because they were black. That was normal.
                                  Everything I said is documented, take it up with history not me. Not sure what UNLV has to do with anything either.
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                                  • jjgold
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                                    • 07-20-05
                                    • 388179

                                    #122
                                    The Fab 5 ended up being very successful in the real world which is what really matters I give them all so much credit especially Rose and Weber
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                                    • JIBBBY
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 12-10-09
                                      • 83686

                                      #123
                                      Originally posted by jjgold
                                      The Fab 5 ended up being very successful in the real world which is what really matters I give them all so much credit especially Rose and Weber
                                      I honestly don't know how Rose got a job commentating on a major network covering the NBA playoffs??? Dude annoys me.. That I will never get????

                                      Granted Chris Weber is mostly on NBATV and occasionally with Turner Network TNT he isn't the dynamo commentator himself but atleast he's got twice the personality and basketball IQ then Rose ever will have.... Rose is probably getting a bigger paycheck then Webber if I had to guess while working just a fraction of the time as well... Real world jobs aren't always fair...

                                      I give Weber real world perks for dating Tyra Banks in her prime for as long as he did....
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                                      • jjgold
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                                        • 07-20-05
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                                        #124
                                        Rose is big time on television he's one of the lead guys

                                        He is all over the place he must be good
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                                        • pavyracer
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                                          • 04-12-07
                                          • 82839

                                          #125
                                          Boxing was one of the original Olympic sports. It's been around for 3,000 years and will stay for many more. Kraken get of the smoking pipe son!
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                                          • frostno98
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                                            • 09-11-07
                                            • 9769

                                            #126
                                            I'm just happy this Mayweather clown is finally gone after September. Gawd that fight was terrible. Jab, Jab, run, headlock when Manny ready to unload. Then precede to do the same crap all fight.

                                            If we just went to the boxing Stats, Marcos Maidana should of beaten Mayweather twice.
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                                            • CWD
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                                              • 01-22-12
                                              • 7665

                                              #127
                                              Originally posted by frostno98
                                              I'm just happy this Mayweather clown is finally gone after September. Gawd that fight was terrible. Jab, Jab, run, headlock when Manny ready to unload. Then precede to do the same crap all fight.

                                              If we just went to the boxing Stats, Marcos Maidana should of beaten Mayweather twice.
                                              cant see him leaving unless he get hurt badly - with his ego to be one away from 50-0 and yet another continuing MEGA payday, i dont see any way he retires after next fight ?
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                                              • The Kraken
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                                                • 12-25-11
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                                                #128
                                                He says he'a done. Doesn't love boxing anymore. He certainly doesnt need the payday.

                                                Wouldnt surprise me either way. I hope he's done though. Lets move on
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                                                • texhooper
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                                                  • 01-05-09
                                                  • 10001

                                                  #129
                                                  Originally posted by The Kraken
                                                  He doesnt fight, he boxes.
                                                  the nerve of this guy. he has the gall to box in his boxing matches. what a dick.
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                                                  • brainfreeze
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                                                    • 05-13-14
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                                                    #130
                                                    Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                    The big draw to an event like this is the "unexpected". We all know what we should expect out of a Mayweather fight but after all the promoting, pomp and circumstance, we end up unsure what will actually happen once they ring the bell. I heard so many different experts comment before the fight on what would happen. I heard one say that there would be bloody carnage with body parts across the ring. WTF? When have you seen carnage in a Mayweather fight? Another said Mayweather was going to come out fast and go for the quick knockout. When has Mayweather ever come out fast? Right up to fight time, 70% of the fans was convinced that Pacman would win the fight. People just knew that it would be different because Manny would force Mayweather to finally fight? Even though a great up and coming Canelo Alvarez couldn't even touch Mayweather. People were betting up Pacman out the roof. The books cleaned up last night.

                                                    Mayweather is a boring watch. Always has been. He never gets hit. He's a defensive specialist and he doesn't have a heavy fist. So he can't get hit and he can't hurt anyone. He doesn't box to please fans. He boxes to win and save his body long after boxing. People complain about his style but no boxer has been able to get him out of that style and create a brawl. Think about it. In 48 fights, no one has been able to touch him. No one has been able create enough tension to put him in bad situations. People that don't understand fighting say he's running around in the ring. But he doesn't. He fights off the ropes more than any other boxer I can remember. His skill against the ropes is uncanny. You would think one guy would finally get a good shot on him but no one has. Mayweather has a gift but people don't want to see it because he's such an asshole.

                                                    .. Good analysis there in bold

                                                    But he's a brilliant villain. More people hate him than love him and for that, they are willing to pay money to hopefully see him get his ass kick. Can you imagine the elation people will have seeing Mayweather get "Buster Douglas'd"? People want Mayweather to get hurt. People want to see him bloodied. People want to see him go through adversity. And when he doesn't, it pisses people off even more.

                                                    I don't love him or hate him as a boxer, I don't want to see him beat up either, I just want to see some actual boxing out of him, if some people like that kind of boxing, so be it... but punching is a part of boxing and as you said earlier... He's soft handed..

                                                    Roy Jones was the same way. A very boring watch because he would beat everyone decisively. Roy's fight were always poor attendance because of his style as well. He never came close to the big pay days he deserved because he wasn't a crowd pleaser and he was never a villain

                                                    Roy was a monster in the ring, and would jump divisions to prove it.. I like that move where he would drop his hands and shift his shoulders, you wouldn't know what hand he was coming with, good switch fighter..and he took chances, big difference
                                                    .
                                                    In bold..
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                                                    • brainfreeze
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                                                      • 05-13-14
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                                                      #131
                                                      Originally posted by Plaza23
                                                      Roy knocked people out and hurt his opponents. Dont even compare him to a guy like Mayweather who does not hurt anyone he gets in the ring with.

                                                      Roy had 61 wins in his career. 44 by knock out.

                                                      Floyd has 48 wins. 26 by knock out.
                                                      Agreed...
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                                                      • The Kraken
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                                                        • 12-25-11
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                                                        #132


                                                        Pretty good recap

                                                        skip the first minute
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                                                        • JIBBBY
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                                                          • 12-10-09
                                                          • 83686

                                                          #133
                                                          Originally posted by jjgold
                                                          Rose is big time on television he's one of the lead guys

                                                          He is all over the place he must be good
                                                          He's crap on stick.. Don't buy into the hype.. Listen to the guy before posting..
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                                                          • texhooper
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                                                            • 01-05-09
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                                                            #134
                                                            Originally posted by The Kraken


                                                            Pretty good recap

                                                            skip the first minute
                                                            i liked the first minute.
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                                                            • Big Bear
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                                                              • 11-01-11
                                                              • 43253

                                                              #135
                                                              Originally posted by The Kraken
                                                              As a fukking hammer

                                                              Neither "fighter" did any damage at all

                                                              Boxing has been relegated to simply winning on points now, much like gymnastics or sync swimming.

                                                              Best part of this is the whole world got to witness the best boxing had to offer
                                                              Mayweather get his ass beat in a UFC fight.

                                                              Put him in the ring with Ronda Rousey
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                                                              • vividjohn45
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                                                                • 11-21-10
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                                                                #136
                                                                Originally posted by BigDofBA
                                                                180 million to Mayweather and neither guy even looks like they were in a fight. Lol
                                                                Proly wrestled in bed a little bit. Seemed to friendly
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                                                                • vividjohn45
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                                                                  • 11-21-10
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                                                                  #137
                                                                  Originally posted by jtoler
                                                                  If you know boxing you enjoyed it, I know I did. Boxing matches tell a story. Try boxing against someone who knows how then you will enjoy watching it more.
                                                                  Shut up wad .
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                                                                  • JIBBBY
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 12-10-09
                                                                    • 83686

                                                                    #138
                                                                    Jtoler^^^If you know MMA you would like that more then just boxing..

                                                                    Try getting in a cage with a dude that can box, kick box, grapple and even submit and choke your arse out at will. You talk enough shit he'll just take you down and lock in sub and choke you unconscious, break your elbow, knee or ankle joints just for kicks instead if you are just a boxer.. MMA is a real mans sport... Boxing and even Kick boxing secondary IMO....

                                                                    Straight up kick boxing is ruthless though and that can't be taken lightly... Respect!!!!

                                                                    That's the ticket fellas... Better be mentally tough, like pain and be a little angry inside to take on MMA or even kick boxing full time...
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                                                                    • Unwritten Law
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                                                                      • 10-31-13
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                                                                      #139
                                                                      Floyd's strategy is his precise timing of bear hugs. Rousey would seriously beat him.
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                                                                      • Plaza23
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                                                                        • 12-29-13
                                                                        • 7392

                                                                        #140
                                                                        Originally posted by The Kraken


                                                                        Pretty good recap

                                                                        skip the first minute
                                                                        That is AWESOME!

                                                                        I loved that game as a kid. I beat it a couple times.
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