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  • frogsrangers
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    • 04-25-12
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    #1
    Georgia State +8.5 over Baylor
    Georgia State will have the 2 best players on the floor in this game, as long as Ryan Harrow is healthy. Harrow was out for Georgia State's game yesterday and the offense struggled, but with him they are a legit offense.

    Baylor runs a 2-3 zone and Georgia State has the point guard to find the open men to exploit that. R.J. Hunter is another playmaker, and Kevin Ware is capable of doing his part. I'd pick the Georgia State money line if GSU was a bit better at shooting 3s.

    Also what worries me is rebounding, Baylor is a monster on the offensive glass, and Georgia State was last in its conference in defensive rebounding. But I think Georgia State is playing close enough to home and has enough weapons to keep it within 8.
  • Big Bear
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    • 11-01-11
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    #2
    when is the game?

    is this NIT or the real March Madness tourny?
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    • THam12
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      • 03-12-13
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      #3
      Originally posted by Big Bear
      when is the game?

      is this NIT or the real March Madness tourny?
      Youre so fukking dumb its painful.
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      • crbravens23
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        #4
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        • leetreaper
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          #5
          Originally posted by Big Bear
          when is the game?

          is this NIT or the real March Madness tourny?
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          • DOM_Toretto
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            #6
            They scored 38 in their conf champ game...

            #3 seeds beat #14 seeds on avg by 11 pts, winning ATS 57% of the time...

            Food for thought.
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            • frogsrangers
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              #7
              Originally posted by DOM_Toretto
              They scored 38 in their conf champ game...

              #3 seeds beat #14 seeds on avg by 11 pts, winning ATS 57% of the time...

              Food for thought.
              They were missing their best player and played against a Georgia Southern team that was using all 35 seconds of the shot clock the whole game. I think all the other 3 vs. 14 games are mismatches, but not this one. Georgia State is a completely different team with Ryan Harrow on the floor
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              • DOM_Toretto
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                #8
                Originally posted by frogsrangers
                They were missing their best player and played against a Georgia Southern team that was using all 35 seconds of the shot clock the whole game. I think all the other 3 vs. 14 games are mismatches, but not this one. Georgia State is a completely different team with Ryan Harrow on the floor
                good point
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                • TPowell
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                  • 02-21-08
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                  #9
                  I would agree, best chance for a 3/14 upset
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                  • KD Esq.
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                    • 02-26-15
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by DOM_Toretto
                    They scored 38 in their conf champ game...

                    #3 seeds beat #14 seeds on avg by 11 pts, winning ATS 57% of the time...

                    Food for thought.
                    Where do you find such stats?
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                    • jtoler
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                      • 12-17-13
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                      #11
                      Bad matchup for State.
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                      • Snowball
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                        • 11-15-09
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                        #12
                        Baylor is going to rape that team. 10+ no problem.
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                        • jjgold
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                          #13
                          I would take points

                          Tough to smash teams in ncaa tourney

                          pressure
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                          • RavensFan2k3
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                            • 08-18-12
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by jtoler
                            Bad matchup for State.
                            Explain
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                            • frogsrangers
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Snowball
                              Baylor is going to rape that team. 10+ no problem.
                              It might happen, but I can't remember a game where a team seeded 13-16 had the two best players on the floor for that game.

                              Yeah, every now and then you get a team in the 13-16 range who has the best player, like St. Bonaventure in 2012 against Florida State when they had Andrew Nicholson, or Kyle O'Quinn for Norfolk State the same year vs. Missouri. But the best 2 players? Plus Georgia State has a good #3 named Kevin Ware.

                              In fact, let's list all those games the past 10 years where the best player on the floor played for the team seeded 13-16:

                              2012 St. Bonaventure & Andrew Nicholson vs. Florida State, lost by 3
                              2012 Norfolk State & Kyle O'Quinn vs. Missouri, won
                              2011 Morehead State & Kenneth Faried vs. Louisville, won
                              2007 Davidson & Stephen Curry vs. Maryland, lost by 7

                              All of those games were close... I'll take my chances

                              I'd take Harrow and Hunter over anyone on Baylor's team, yes, even Rico Gathers.
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                              • TPowell
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by frogsrangers
                                It might happen, but I can't remember a game where a team seeded 13-16 had the two best players on the floor for that game.

                                Yeah, every now and then you get a team in the 13-16 range who has the best player, like St. Bonaventure in 2012 against Florida State when they had Andrew Nicholson, or Kyle O'Quinn for Norfolk State the same year vs. Missouri. But the best 2 players? Plus Georgia State has a good #3 named Kevin Ware.

                                In fact, let's list all those games the past 10 years where the best player on the floor played for the team seeded 13-16:

                                2012 St. Bonaventure & Andrew Nicholson vs. Florida State, lost by 3
                                2012 Norfolk State & Kyle O'Quinn vs. Missouri, won
                                2011 Morehead State & Kenneth Faried vs. Louisville, won
                                2007 Davidson & Stephen Curry vs. Maryland, lost by 7

                                All of those games were close... I'll take my chances

                                I'd take Harrow and Hunter over anyone on Baylor's team, yes, even Rico Gathers.

                                Was O'Quinn really better?
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                                • jtoler
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by RavensFan2k3
                                  Explain
                                  Size somewhat, zone. Drew seems to even things out a bit though.
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                                  • Snowball
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by frogsrangers
                                    It might happen, but I can't remember a game where a team seeded 13-16 had the two best players on the floor for that game.

                                    Yeah, every now and then you get a team in the 13-16 range who has the best player, like St. Bonaventure in 2012 against Florida State when they had Andrew Nicholson, or Kyle O'Quinn for Norfolk State the same year vs. Missouri. But the best 2 players? Plus Georgia State has a good #3 named Kevin Ware.

                                    In fact, let's list all those games the past 10 years where the best player on the floor played for the team seeded 13-16:

                                    2012 St. Bonaventure & Andrew Nicholson vs. Florida State, lost by 3
                                    2012 Norfolk State & Kyle O'Quinn vs. Missouri, won
                                    2011 Morehead State & Kenneth Faried vs. Louisville, won
                                    2007 Davidson & Stephen Curry vs. Maryland, lost by 7

                                    All of those games were close... I'll take my chances

                                    I'd take Harrow and Hunter over anyone on Baylor's team, yes, even Rico Gathers.

                                    historicals and seeds don't matter. Baylor vs. Georgia State is all that matters.
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                                    • KRIT
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                                      • 01-11-14
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                                      #19
                                      I agree for the most part. Baylor is a very weak #3 seed. They very much deserve the seeding they got because they had a great season, but they over-achieved. We slowly started seeing Baylor regress the last couple weeks of the season.
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                                      • frogsrangers
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by TPowell
                                        Was O'Quinn really better?
                                        How many Mizzou players from that year are in the NBA right now?
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                                        • KD Esq.
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by frogsrangers
                                          How many Mizzou players from that year are in the NBA right now?
                                          Zero! Kim English and a couple of others are over seas and then Pressey is in the D-leauge.
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                                          • sports_monster
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                                            #22
                                            I sometimes wonder how many of the posters here work for the sports books. I see lots

                                            of crappy advise here!





                                            Originally posted by frogsrangers
                                            Georgia State will have the 2 best players on the floor in this game, as long as Ryan Harrow is healthy. Harrow was out for Georgia State's game yesterday and the offense struggled, but with him they are a legit offense.

                                            Baylor runs a 2-3 zone and Georgia State has the point guard to find the open men to exploit that. R.J. Hunter is another playmaker, and Kevin Ware is capable of doing his part. I'd pick the Georgia State money line if GSU was a bit better at shooting 3s.

                                            Also what worries me is rebounding, Baylor is a monster on the offensive glass, and Georgia State was last in its conference in defensive rebounding. But I think Georgia State is playing close enough to home and has enough weapons to keep it within 8.
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                                            • pavyracer
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Big Bear
                                              when is the game?

                                              is this NIT or the real March Madness tourny?
                                              Are you retarded?
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                                              • krk1030
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                                                #24
                                                rico gathers will be the best player on the floor.
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                                                • EaglesPhan36
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                                                  #25
                                                  Yeah I don't know that I agree about them having the two best players, but teams that can shoot are the ones that can stick with Baylor. Georgia State's big problem IMO is their defense. I'd want double digits minimum to take a shot on this one. Good luck.
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                                                  • TPowell
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                                                    #26
                                                    Phil Pressey was 1st Team All Big 12 that season I believe. Hard to say O'Quinn was much better, if better at all
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                                                    • frogsrangers
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                                                      #27
                                                      THEY penetrating DID IT WITHOUT RYAN HARROW

                                                      they penetrating DID IT WITHOUT RYAN HARROW
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                                                      • packerd_00
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                                                        • 05-22-13
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                                                        #28
                                                        F@ck sake,cant believe this shit.
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                                                        • krk1030
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                                                          #29
                                                          Baylor one of the worst meltdowns ever.
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                                                          • bob6199
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                                                            #30
                                                            Baylor has a tendency to choke, Pretty easy to fade them, Notre Dame as well, keep fading they will be out soon.
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                                                            • jtoler
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by jtoler
                                                              Size somewhat, zone. Drew seems to even things out a bit though.
                                                              So did Drew even this one out as was very possible he would, who's fault was it that they lost, didn't watch the game.
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                                                              • Ghenghis Kahn
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                                                                • 01-02-12
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                                                                #32
                                                                people are blaming the coach for this meltdown but i doubt the coach told the players to take it to the hoop being up 3 with less than 35 seconds to go. baylor players ave. iq is probably in the 60s. why not hold on to the ball and get fouled and shoot fts?

                                                                0:31 Baylor Timeout
                                                                0:25 53-56 Rico Gathers missed Layup.
                                                                0:25 53-56 Taurean Prince Offensive Rebound.
                                                                0:20 53-56 Taurean Prince Turnover.
                                                                0:20 Isaiah Dennis Steal. 53-56
                                                                0:20 53-56 Foul on Taurean Prince.
                                                                0:20 Isaiah Dennis made Free Throw. 54-56
                                                                0:20 Isaiah Dennis missed Free Throw. 54-56
                                                                0:20 54-56 Taurean Prince Defensive Rebound.
                                                                0:15 Foul on Isaiah Dennis. 54-56
                                                                0:15 54-56 Kenny Chery missed Free Throw.
                                                                0:15 T.J. Shipes Defensive Rebound. 54-56
                                                                0:03 R.J. Hunter made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by T.J. Shipes. 57-56
                                                                0:03 Baylor Timeout
                                                                0:01 57-56 Taurean Prince missed Three Point Jumper.
                                                                0:01 Georgia St Defensive Rebound. 57-56
                                                                0:00 End of Game
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                                                                • MiAMiEDDY
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  nice pick
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                                                                  • a4u2fear
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Uncle Saul wins one, finally
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                                                                    • actiondan
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Yay pokemon
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