Should the NFL take away the Patriots win?

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  • Kermit
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    • 09-27-10
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    #141
    Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
    Didn't read all the posts... don't know if anyone posted this or not???

    The NFL will have set officials at every game now who properly inflate the footballs. That's a guarantee.

    I read in another post somewhere... a poster was surprised that the NFL didn't already elect to do this??? I agree. I thought the same thing. You mean to tell me throughout all of these years... the home team supplied the footballs? What kind of fukking league is this???

    Originally posted by Kermit
    I have to be honest, before this debacle, I was under the impression that the league supplied balls for both of the teams that were up to the exact specs. I mean what the fukk is this? Sunday softball league where the home teams supplies the balls?
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    • jtoler
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      • 12-17-13
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      #142
      Originally posted by BriGuy
      Your suggestion is moronic but, just out of curiosity, whom do you think should replace them? Please don't tell me you think the team that just LOST 45-7 should be going to the Super Bowl. That would be one of the worst jokes in history.
      Right because the 2nd place finisher is never declared the winner after the one who comes in first has been caught cheating later.
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      • jjgold
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 07-20-05
        • 388179

        #143
        Lighter balls would benefit both quarterbacks because of better gripping of the ball
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        • pavyracer
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 04-12-07
          • 82831

          #144
          Originally posted by jjgold
          Lighter balls would benefit both quarterbacks because of better gripping of the ball
          Then why have rules about air pressure in balls? Just let the home team decide how much air is in the ball.
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          • Smoke
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 10-09-09
            • 48111

            #145
            Originally posted by jjgold
            Lighter balls would benefit both quarterbacks because of better gripping of the ball
            Make both balls light. Problem solved
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            • BriGuy
              SBR MVP
              • 12-06-11
              • 1556

              #146
              Originally posted by jtoler
              Right because the 2nd place finisher is never declared the winner after the one who comes in first has been caught cheating later.
              Actually, you're right. Such a thing does not happen in college or pro football. Even when a team has to vacate a victory or championship in college football, they don't declare the team that lost that game the winner. They took away the BCS championship from USC in 2004, but they didn't turn around and give the trophy to Oklahoma and declare them champs.

              Doesn't it such when someone introduces facts to counter your ignorance?
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              • pavyracer
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                • 04-12-07
                • 82831

                #147
                Win should stay with Patriots but with an asterisk.
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                • Smoke
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                  • 10-09-09
                  • 48111

                  #148
                  Originally posted by pavyracer
                  Win should stay with Patriots but with an asterisk.
                  Wong. They should play the game again and both teams get undern inflated balls.
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                  • trevor123698
                    SBR MVP
                    • 12-26-09
                    • 1071

                    #149
                    better question: should you kill yourself? Most likely, yes
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                    • MarcusPaige
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                      • 02-16-14
                      • 272

                      #150
                      So the Pats are up 17-7 at half using under inflated balls, they switch them at half to the back up balls which are inflated properly and beat them 28-0 in the second half. Media will try to make a controversy out of anything. This is complete BS.
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                      • sneakerhead
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 07-14-10
                        • 7727

                        #151
                        Originally posted by MarcusPaige
                        So the Pats are up 17-7 at half using under inflated balls, they switch them at half to the back up balls which are inflated properly and beat them 28-0 in the second half. Media will try to make a controversy out of anything. This is complete BS.
                        Perfect time too, all the Patriot haters come out since their teams didnt make it
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                        • Spedizzo
                          SBR MVP
                          • 12-16-11
                          • 1557

                          #152
                          Get NFL news, scores, stats, standings & more for your favorite teams and players -- plus watch highlights and live games! All on FoxSports.com.


                          If Dwayne Allen said that the balls did not make a difference, bald fat gamblers on SBR shouldn't say otherwise
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                          • dumdum214
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 09-29-13
                            • 159

                            #153
                            Why is everyone fixated on the fact that the Pats would have won anyway? That should be irrelevant. They blatantly broke the rules to give them a competitive advantage, hence cheating. Whether it helped them or not is not the point. They clearly broke the rules.

                            If a MLB all used corked bats for a game and the team ended up winning 1-0 on 4 straight hit batters should nothing happen to the team because it didn't effect the outcome?
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                            • Let's Go Rangers
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                              • 03-18-12
                              • 8918

                              #154
                              Win SHOULD NOT be vacated


                              SEVERE penalties should be handed down
                              AFTER the superbowl is played
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                              • jjgold
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                                • 07-20-05
                                • 388179

                                #155
                                All baby talk and sore losers that's all

                                When people fail they blame others
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                                • TheMoneyShot
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                                  • 02-14-07
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                                  #156
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                                  • manny24
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 10-22-07
                                    • 20046

                                    #157
                                    Krakles get ahold of yourself son

                                    the only thing should be taken away is your Psych doctors prescription pad skin
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                                    • PAYTON20
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 02-02-10
                                      • 5217

                                      #158
                                      Originally posted by jjgold
                                      Lighter balls would benefit both quarterbacks because of better gripping of the ball
                                      The QBs don't use the same footballs genius

                                      obviously, the Pats still would've won the game.

                                      The fact is that they blatantly cheated like bitches and got caught
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                                      • paco
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                                        • 05-07-09
                                        • 62873

                                        #159
                                        Originally posted by MarcusPaige
                                        So the Pats are up 17-7 at half using under inflated balls, they switch them at half to the back up balls which are inflated properly and beat them 28-0 in the second half. Media will try to make a controversy out of anything. This is complete BS.
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                                        • paco
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                                          • 05-07-09
                                          • 62873

                                          #160
                                          Originally posted by PAYTON20
                                          The QBs don't use the same footballs genius

                                          obviously, the Pats still would've won the game.

                                          The fact is that they blatantly cheated like bitches and got caught
                                          seattle cheated all last year with illegal drugs
                                          Anyone have adderal?
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                                          • mcdonae101
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                                            • 03-02-14
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                                            #161
                                            Originally posted by paco
                                            seattle cheated all last year with illegal drugs
                                            Anyone have adderal?
                                            and those players were penalized
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                                            • paco
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 05-07-09
                                              • 62873

                                              #162
                                              Originally posted by mcdonae101
                                              and those players were penalized
                                              they should take the championship away then if u go by some of these dumb ass comments in this thread
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                                              • PAYTON20
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 02-02-10
                                                • 5217

                                                #163
                                                Originally posted by paco
                                                seattle cheated all last year with illegal drugs
                                                Anyone have adderal?
                                                Pac it's not really comparable

                                                we are talking about the Patriots organization that has already been caught cheating on numerous occasions

                                                the Seahawks organization has never been caught cheating. A couple players failed a drug test
                                                for what came out as adderal and were suspended...and served their suspension. Brandon Browner smoked weed and got kicked off the team mid-season

                                                a player failing a drug test is completely different than a team video taping practices or deflating balls
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                                                • odog11
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 02-14-11
                                                  • 3874

                                                  #164
                                                  Originally posted by PAYTON20
                                                  Pac it's not really comparable

                                                  we are talking about the Patriots organization that has already been caught cheating on numerous occasions

                                                  the Seahawks organization has never been caught cheating. A couple players failed a drug test
                                                  for what came out as adderal and were suspended...and served their suspension. Brandon Browner smoked weed and got kicked off the team mid-season

                                                  a player failing a drug test is completely different than a team video taping practices or deflating balls
                                                  They were only caught "cheating" once and that was for taping signals during games. There were allegations they taped a walk-through, but never proved. So people can stop saying they have been caught multiple times.



                                                  Everyone got it? Caught "cheating" once.
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                                                  • PAYTON20
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 02-02-10
                                                    • 5217

                                                    #165
                                                    The AFC Championship will not and should not be vacated

                                                    The Pats got caught cheating, again, point blank.

                                                    Belichick and Brady just lied on ESPN, and now some random equipment manager will be thrown under the bus.

                                                    No consequences will be handed down to affect the Super Bowl. Goodell will likely stall and wait to make a ruling until after the SB.

                                                    Watching this debacle of lies and finger pointing has been quite comical to say the least. Every analyst on ESPN is hammering Belichick/Brady and calling them out for the lies, as they should be.

                                                    Sucks for that equipment manager
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                                                    • MoneyLineDawg
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 01-01-09
                                                      • 13253

                                                      #166
                                                      Yeah an equipment manager just deflated a bunch of team footballs that were approved for play on their own??

                                                      Gimmie a fukkin break here

                                                      Belichick is well known as someone who pays extreme attention to detail and has his hands on everything going on within his organization

                                                      Fukk off and come clean......The NFL needs to do the right thing here
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                                                      • blueghost
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 09-11-09
                                                        • 1715

                                                        #167
                                                        Ravens also thought ball was under inflated in second half ...stats suggest they could be right N.E. 1st half (15 passes- 5 rushes) 2nd half (26 passes-0 rushes by anyone-2 Brady sneaks up middle .. dont know for but sounds interesting
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